LTTTC & Assited Conception ~ May 2006

:crossfingers: for you Shan! And for you janee. The TWWs are the worst.

Alex, great news on your ET! :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

Hey girls :hello: How is everyone going?

Shan - keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you. I hope AF stays far far away!

Alex - sooo glad to hear that your ET went well :stickyvibesgirl: I hear you about having to wait for so long. I guess it's because testing any earlier might show up a false positive because of the HCG trigger shot :dunno: (don't anyone tell me I'm wrong about that ... it's the only thing keeping me from POAS at the moment LOL).

Janee - big hugs and kisses for you darl. You can have a meltdown here whenever you feel like it. If it makes you feel better, my OB told me that OHSS has a slightly positive effect on your chances of getting a BFP ... so consider it a good thing (despite your kangaroo pouch!)

Jane - PMSL @ your bum herbs. Glad they're working for you!

Chookie - good on you for going to the gym. Can you send a little bit of your motivation my way .. pleeease!

I'm halfway through my TWW. OMG .. the slowest two weeks ever. And the heartburn that I was hoping was a positive sign has totally gone now, so now I don't have any pregnancy symptoms (real or imagined lol), and I definitely don't feel any different. Does anybody know if I should be following any particular diet (e.g. avoiding soft cheese), or is that jumping the gun a little bit?

Hello Everyone

I have been MIA for a very long time and previously was on the IUI/Clomid forum but have been hiding out for a bit.... over the whole TTC saga.

I have enjoyed reading the posts on here and have been meaning to post and now finally have.

Wishing lots of luck to everyone in the TWW and I have enjoyed Alex's posts as I am about to have my EPU on Wednesday and just had my trigger (oohhh sore botty !!!)

take care

Morning Girls,

Cherie - don't you just hate it when you get what you think are pregnancy signs, and then they just disappear....my bb's aren't sore as much as they were a week ago, but my god...the heartburn i'm getting almost every afternoon/evening is killing me. That is the only symptom i can remember from when i was pregnant before my m/c, so hoping that it for the same reason.......not long now to go until you can test...good luck

Sari - glad to see you back....don't be a stranger....good luck tomorrow for your EPU...

Hi Everyone else.....still haven't tested yet...might go buy one today...maybe..hehe

ok hey guys! my ivf appointment is today. i am scared and nervous but excited at the same time. Im hoping being cd5 that we can do something this cycle instead of making me wait any longer! hopefully we can still try IUI?

praying for good news and a realistic success rate in a short time frame :crossfingers:

thinking of u all! xxx

Good luck this arvo Danni - everything will work out, i know it...i'll be thinking of you...let me know how you go..

Good luck Danni! :) I hope everything goes well for you today.

GL Danni!

Cherie, during my last cycle, I had no pg symptoms (sore bbs, heartburn, nausea etc) either. I did for all my other, unsuccessful, cycles though! So don't despair!

Shan, are you going to POAS? Ooooh, how exciting!

I just POAS.......

It was a dud....no lines at all........is that karma or what.....

Will test again either later on this arvo or tomorrow morning.....

ohhh ripped off! get a refund!

Okay.....POAS again...same sort of test (Crystal Clear - 2 tests) and it was a dud again....AAAAAHAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Now i still don't know and i don't have any more tests....i'm gunna do an OPK and see what that says coz i read that they can work too, but otherwise i'm gunna have to go buy some more tomorrow.....

Oh Shan...don't you hate that, I had similar at Easter except I got fake positive that disappeared and I was not a happy camper at all

Danni - how did the appointment go today? be interested in how you go as I will be going through mivf at the freemasons when I start

Chookie - how is the new job going?

Cherie, Alex and Janee - still sending lots of :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl:

Big Hi to everyone else, I am finding it hard to keep up with everyone lately, imagine if I was in a bigger thread my head wouldn't cope

I am having one of my sick of this days, I am sure you all know the one. I have terrible anxiety and just want to hide under a rock. I think a holiday is in order, I have had absolutely everything on hold waiting to get pg and then waiting to go on IVF and I am really sick of it. To make matters worse I have uni in 20 minutes (virtual class thank goodness) and I just want to sit down and have a good old knit - the sign I am completely stressed out is when the knitting comes out.

I am half tempted to have a vent but its kind of not a vent. I know we all talk about breaking down in tears and having a bad day but does anyone do the opposite and go into denial/disinterest. I went to see a friend and their new baby the other night and didn't even want to hold it, I am at the point where I have lost interest in everything but not to the point where I want to break down just total disinterest. It is very hard to explain. But when I do think about things I don't want to cry, I just feel sick and anxious.

I hope everyone is going along well. I would be interested if you guys get like this, perhaps it is just part of the rollercoaster effect?

oh shan i cant believe 2 duds!

well my appointment was so weird. Here i was saying how Dr McBain was so great last week and this week he shook my hand, drew a picture, then walked to his receptionist and that was it! he didnt explain anything, or let me ask my 1000 questions. i was in shock!

i spent the next 15 minutes asking the receptionsit all my questions!

anyway- i booked an appointment for a scan on monday. They gave me 2 ovulation tests to do at home on sunday and monday mornings with FMU. If either of them are positive, the scan appointment then gets changed to an IUI insemination instead.

if its negative, they will do the scan, predict ovulation day which will most likely be next week, then do inseminatin that day. Its only gunna cost us $250 out of pocket!! yay!!

he did however say that i will need ivf but he will try one maybe two IUI cycles first :D i am much more positive now! bring on insemination!

Shan - Aaagghhhh.....what the????? The Gods are telling you something ?!?!? But 2 Duds what a bummer - big time!!!! Have you gone and bought anymore or have you decided to stick it out - let us know - I'm soooooooo curious !!!!!!

Danni - hope all goes well for your tests. I'm glad you are feeling a bit more positive about everything. It can really get Frustrating, can't it!!

Jane - I know what you're feeling - I too have those days where you don't really have the urge to cry but just want it all to go away and pretend none of this is happening. Big Hugs to you :hug: You know you can rant and rave and cry all you want - everyone is here for you - keep your chin up Hon!!!

Sari - Welcome back!!!! Good luck with your EPU Tomorrow....hope all goes really really well for you :)

Chookie - How are you going with the new Job????

Cherie - IKWYM about symptoms - I have been feeling light headed all day long - now I don't know if it's "something" or completely in my imagination....hmmmmm time will tell I guess...hang in there fingers crossed my love.

A big Hello to everyone else:hello:

Love Alex xox

Danni - I saw Dr McBain a few years back and he wasn't my cup of tea at all, I actually saw him once and never went back he freaked me out so much, good luck with it all, I hope the receptionist gave you all the info because I can't imagine he would be the easiest man to pin down for an answer when you need to IYKWIM

Alex - glad it's not just me

ETA - Danni this was just my experience with him he was just way too direct or blunt or something for me and I found he didn't want to give me his time, just wanted to get me in and out so to speak, hope my post didn't sound harsh, it wasn't meant to be

Hi Lovelies,

Just wanted to drop in quickly to tell you all I am really enjoying my job (trying to get my head around reading house plans is hard!!!), the gym and everything!! I went to the gym for 2 hours straight from work tonight, after working out I decided to do a boxing class. I loved it!!!

Shan - I have everything crossed for you, I really hope I log on tomorrow night and see you have posted a BFP. All my positive vibes are being sent to you sweets :pray:

Danni - Hope all goes well with your IUI :)

Cherie/Alex - I am all crossed up for you both as well!!

Sari - Hi *waves*

Jane - Hi sweet hope you are well.

Still haven't got af, had a tiny bit of spotting 2 days ago and this afternoon I have just beed presented with a bit of brown sludge (sorry tmi I know!!). So I guess I shall expect her full arrival in the morning. My temp dropped below coverline yesterday and jumped back up today. Who knows??!! I just wanted her to rock up so I can stop this dam temping. DH asked me why I was still taking my temp and I said I feel like I need to do it until AF arrives, it's like finishing what I have started!!

xox

Alex - I think you described it better than me...I do wish it would all go away, that's exactly how I feel I just couldn't find the words when I wrote the post

On a different note, I am so excited it's the last day of May, my appointment with the new FS is in July, so tomorrow I will be able to say I have my appointment next month LOL I am almost like a kid counting down the sleeps 'till Santa

Hi lil-chookie......i know exactly how you feel about wanting to stop temping but feeling like you can't until AF shows up....it's driving me nuts...I have to go and get another test, so i'll do that this morning, and will let you all know later on how i go.....

Hello Girls

I saw my specialist last week and we will be starting IVF very shortly. AF is due this weekend and I start the pill on day 3 and then call the clinic. We are excited and apprenhensive. We are being positive but not too positive IYKWIM. We are having a down reg cycle with a day 5 transfer. Specialist said that success rates are 60% for day 5 transfer. She also said there is a chance I could overstimulate as I have PCOS on my right ovary. Question does your cycle get cancelled if you overstimulate????

I look forward to sharing my journey with you all and sharing your journies with me.

Jade :)

jane i appreciate your comments! thank you :)

Hi all, been MIA trying to chill out (unsuccessfully I might add). Sorry I don't have time for personals this morning...just quickly, got my final BT tomorrow. Expecting the worst as 2 POAS came back negative...didn't even pick up the pregnyl...so I hold out for a miracle now. Had a good cry w DH last night and will pick up the pieces, I know. Already thinking about that bottle of chardonnay I got for my birthday a month ago and haven't touched yet.....
I know some of you are also coming up to final BT time - good luck all - hope it brings you lots of BFP's.
Take care

Janee

im holding out for your miracle too janee :crossfingers:

Thanks Danni - good luck for you too sweetie.

Oh Janee....i hope your BT shows a BFP...has AF showed up yet, coz if she hasn't then you are still in with a chance..

Jade...Welcome to our little thread and i just wanted to say good luck with your IVF journey...

Just wanted to give Shan a big fat *mwa*!! Good luck today sweet the waiting is driving me CRAZY!!

Sari my old Clomid buddy :hello: great to see you!

All the best to everyone else in the TWW, can't wait for you to join the PGALTTTC forum it is emptying out fast!

Skye xo

Well girls....the wait is over....I poas earlier and it was a :bfn: so there you go.....my AC journey is now over for the time being, but if it's okay with you all, i'd like to stay as technically i'm still LTTTC.

Thanks for all the good luck messages and all..it meant a great deal to me.

:grouphug: all round...xxxx

Janee - Still have everything crossed for you...there is still a chance if AF has not shown up. Thinking of you.

Shan - I'm soooo sorry..I really thought this may have been "it" for you. I don't know what to say... big big :hug: to you.

Quick update - I have been getting AF like cramps this morning - have now subsided to more of a twinge....so I'm not holding my breath that I will get a BFP this time round....
but hey - it aint' over till the fat lady sings!!!

Hope everyone else is doing well , still sending :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: to everyone....
Love Alex xox

Big hugs Shan..I am so sorry xo

Shan - sorry about the bfn :hug:

janee - I will be think of you tomorrow sweets, think positive thoughts.

AF made her grand appearance in full force over night. So TTC is officially over for now, I still want us to have a baby more than anything in the entire world but I am looking forward to having us back for awhile, DH is too. Started our IVF research so by next year we should be prepared and know everything we need to know!! We have also started to plan out where we are going on our Europe trip, we want to go to a few too many places at the moment so we are negotiating with each other about it!!

I am now 'LTTTC on hold', I would miss you lovelies too much so I am still going to be coming in here!!
xox

Lil-Chookie....we can be LTTTC on holders together....

thanks for the hugs everyone.....i might consider a bt if AF hasn't showed up by next week and see what happens...not holding my breath though..

Huge squishy hugs for you Shan :hug: I'm so sorry about your BFN hun.

Chookie - darl, I'm so sorry that AF showed up for you :hug: I really hope you enjoy your exciting times during your 'LTTTC-on-hold' (especially no more temping!),and that you come back refreshed and ready to start IVF. Definitely don't be a stranger!

Alex - I've been having lots of cramps too, but I've had them since the ET, so I'm really hoping that it's not a bad sign for either of us. Don't count yourself out yet - positive thoughts and sticky vibes!!

Oh Janee - I'm still keeping my fingers and toes crossed for your little miracle. I'm so sorry to hear about your BFN's.

Welcome Jade - I hope your first IVF cycle is your last one! My Dr told me that I was at higher risk of hyperstimulation because of my PCOS too. I went into hyperstim to start with, and he dropped my FSH dosage on the fourth day of the injections. From what I know, hyperstimulation doesn't necessarily mean that your cycle will be cancelled - it depends on the severity. Normal IVF is a state of controlled hyperstimulation .. it's only when things get out of control that they start to worry, and you'll be monitored the whole time anyway.

Well, I'm feeling weird .. I expected to be totally stressed during this TWW, but the opposite has happened .. I kind of feel like I don't have to worry anymore, that whatever is going to happen will happen, and I don't have to worry about temping and timing BD and watching my CM .. it's like a sense of relief that my part in it is over for the moment IYKWIM. 5 days until my BT .. and I haven't succumbed to lure of the HPT yet.

Hi all! Sorry no time for personals today - welcome to all the new people and good luck to everyone on their two week wait!

Ignore my ticker - I still think FF is wrong. According to it I am on day 14 but I think I ovulated a week later based on my higher temps and my history of post-O temps being in the high sixties. Am praying :pray: that they stay high for another week! Did another test at DH's insistence this morning - think it was a :bfn: but thought there was a very very very faint line. DH thought I was seeing things! I think it was too early anyways and will test again on Sunday I think.

Apologies for the short post. DH's uncle died on Saturday so was away the last day with his funeral and must catch up on some work!

Hope you are all ok,

Love :)

Hello

Big hugs to Skye - long time no see, how have you been going ?? where are you up to at the moment ???

Well I had my EPU yesterday and and we got 12 eggies, I ranht he clinic and 8 have fertilised !!! I am very excited we do the transfer at 1.30 tomorrow. So once again will be back in the TWW, havent been there since last year and found it hard to get through then... dont know how I will manage it this time.... ohhh and lets not even begin to think about the amount of HPK's that I will churn through during that time!!! Hah hah.

So my sympathies with those currenlt in the TWW and wishing you all very positive vibes.

Just one questions... does crinone (?) effect HPK's ???

thansk alot

sounds very promising Sari! :crossfingers:

this is a very general question for anyone who has done ivf before. I am expecting to have my epu and then have the eggs transferred 2-3 days later as i have read.

But upon talking to some people who have gone through ivf before, they recommend waiting until the following month before the transfer. why? is this beneficial? does it matter? hope someone can help :) tia

Hi everyone just popping in to help answer some q's and spread :stickyvibesboy: :stickyvibesgirl: :bluedust:

Sari, crinone doesn't effect HPTs but the trigger does...

Danni, I am assuming that the people you are referring to are talking about transfering when you body isn't as overloaded with hormones from the stim.
I personally think fresh is best but this is my opinion only.
Our first stim transfer was cancelled due to OHSS I got 24eggs of which we froze 5, of those 5 only 1 survived the thaw...
We had this one transferred (FET) BFN.
Second stim 2 transferred fresh BFP...
I'm not sure exactly of overall statisics but my OB told us 1/4 chance of bub in a cot for fresh cycle compared to 1/5 FET.

HTH

Shez xoxo

Hi girls,

Shan I'm so so sorry about the BFN :hug:

Janee, GL for your bt. I'm not a believer in the accuracy of HPTs if you use them before AF is due, with good reason. The fat lady hasn't sung for you yet!

Sari, great news about your embies. Grow lil fellas grow!

Cherie, you've got willpower of steel! You hang in there, away from the HPTs!

Danni, I too have been told that your chances of success are better with a fresh emby, rather than a frozen one. I too had success on a fresh cycle.

Everyone else :hello:

thanks for popping in sush! been looking for you :)

Sari - Thats great results from your EPU.....good luck for tomorrow, we'll all have our fingers crossed for you....

Hey Sush...great to see you....how's your baby boy Charlie treating you.... he's gorgeous...

Hi all, sorry for no personals, currently fighting back the tears..BFN as anticipated....
I intend doing all the wrong things over the next few days....dip, soft cheese and alcohol.I really thought our first IVF go would work - now I think that was incredibly naive of me - and foolish.
Await the nasty witch's arrival. Then it's FET for us in July - but it sounds like that doesn't hold much promise from what I've read? Would we be better going for a fresh cycle you think? Time is passing me by. DS turns 6 in 3 weeks and it feels like forever waiting. To be honest with you all, I desperately want to keep trying, and at the same time just wish I could let go of this all and be back to the "old" me that was happy and fulfilled.
I :pray: for all of you with tests coming up, that lady luck and good fortune shine upon you all. :)
Take care
Janee

oh janee no! im so sorry to hear that. Have fun indulging tomorrow on all those naughty things and enjoy yourself while you are at it :hug: thinkinf of you hunny