Yogi Bear - Another Whoo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for your numbers rising nicely - yay!
Saffy - Hope you have also received some good news if you had a 2nd BT!
So, so happy for you both and I will 2nd KMond in Keep those BFP's coming!!
KMond - Good Luck , hun. Excellent news on the early blast! I'll be 'ing for you that this is real sticky one. Any hints or signs yet?
AFM - I am joining you in the 2ww and am 3 days behind. I had my FET yesterday which went well - yay! I lost 2 other embies on the thaw which was a little disappointing but am trying not to focus on that and think fertile thoughts my precious little one on board !
I really hope we can keep the BFP trend going in here so lots and lots of to us and anyone else lurking !
Welcome Coral - so nice to have someone else in here to keep each other company.
Yayyyy for your FET on Monday. Glad to hear that all went well even though you did lose 2 of your precious embies on the way.
We did the same - we had quite a few but they were frozen at day 1 so we've lost 5 since starting this whole round of FET's and only two day 1's left (maybe not even another FET still to go if this one doesn't work).
Glad to hear you are being so positive though and thinking positive. Really hope that this is your turn - both of our turns!
Not feeling anything unfortunately. But then again when I got my BFP for my first ever IVF I had not a single symptom so I'm not ruling myself out yet, however, what I would do for some nausea, tender BB, morning sickness etc etc to reassure me and keep me feeling positive. Only time in your life that you actually wish you felt like crap so you knew there was something happening - madness! So yes 5 days to my BT (probably 4 till I POAS!) and actually managing to remain reasonably calm. I think I worked myself up so much for my last FET I've really consciously tried to not let that happen again - it's just unbearable and probably does me more harm than good. So I'm taking lots of deep breaths......
Anyway really hope that all goes well for you and you start to feel horribly crappy and soon! Do you have any secret weapons for the 2WW - ie what do you "do" - rest up, eat pineapple, do acupuncture, chinese herbs - any of the above??
Whatever you are doing I really hope it works like a dream and gives you that desperately wanted BFP.
Keep in touch and I'll keep everything crossed for you.
KMond - Sorry to hear you have lost a few along the way as well . I guess it is to be expected but still hard to hear when it does happen .
You are doing well to remain calm and I admire you for that . Me, I am a total mess today . Been on Dr Google all morning which of course is not helping me one little bit! I feel a little reassured that you are also not getting any symptoms (and had a BFP with no symptoms for your DS). I am not getting any (maybe some mild cramping but that could just as easily be my imagination!).
My only secret weapon during this 2ww is acupuncture.... he gave me some herbs to take (in pill form) but I was too scared to take them as there was a huge list of weird ingredients on the side of the bottle. DH and I agreed that if this one isn't successful than I would start the herbs for the next transfer. How about you? Are you doing anything?
Any change in symptoms today? I really do hope we can keep the BFP's coming . At least you are one more day down til your BT and POAS! I swore to stay away from them this time due to the chem preg last cycle but I would do one right now if I knew I would get an answer ! Wayyyyy to early for me as I am only 2dp5dt. Just wish I could feel implantation pains as I did with DS and the chem last cycle . I so hear ya with the wanting symptoms! May we both have tender BB's and morning sickness!
Anyway, I hope you are still doing well and are remaining calm... sending us both lots and lots of !
Hi Coral congrats for PUPO When is your BT? Try not to worry about no symptoms...i had NONE this time. I usually get some twinges of cramping, but never anything else like morning sickness. I still dont feel pg at all now, am just praying that things are progressing ok in there I had another bt this morning so now for the nail-biting wait for the results.
KMond, how are you going? Not too much longer for you now? Am keeping myself all crossed in yogic position for you! As for the things i've done different this time: added Saizen growth hormone & Luveris to the mix during stimulation and also seeing a Reproductive Immunologist who uses Intralipid infusion for NK cells (plus the usual steroids, clexane & pessaries). Just praying its going to get me over the line this time Starting to get more scared as time goes on as i just cant bear the thought of losing another bub.
Good luck girls, am thinking of you and sending lots of
xxx
yogi, I have no symptoms either except for sore boobies, and weeing during the night, we are going to be fine and our bubs are stickyones xxx Best of luck with BT
good luck girls, we are all cheering you on, and hoping for more bfps stay calm (if possible) x
Yogi - did you get more BT results today???? THanks so much for holding a yogic posi for me - I need all the help I can get. Wow -those changes sound a little over my head but hey it's got you this far and so I'm doing a yogic position for you that it continues brilliantly. I can understand your nerves - you kind of hope the nervous wait is over when you get your BFP but it's just not - it's just the beginning isn't it. Hang in there - sending you some extra sticky to you tonight.
Saffy - thanks for the cheer squad - we need it! Lovely to hear from you and hope everything is coming along just swimmingly for you.
Coral - so it looks like it's just you and me for now chick. Hope you're coping okay today and that you've got some heavy duty pg symptoms starting to hit. I haven't but one of us may as well. Any implantation pains? How are you coping with the stress??
Nothing happening here either unfortunately and battling to stay positive but hanging on to the fact that I had nothing at all with DS2 - so it's possible.
No secret weapons here unfortunately - if only there was one. I do alot of little things -it's not that I think any one of them is really going to alter the result but it just can't hurt and I want to feel like I've left no stone unturned if you know what I mean. So I do acupuncture too, chinese herbs, wheatgerm on my cereal (selenium in it supposed to be good for implantation), pineapple, strawberries (I think TCM says red fruits are good), lots of water, trying to cut out sugar as much as I can (did great with that on my last FET but failing miserably this time) and I just generally try and eat well and rest (which I'm also failing on).
Anyway lovely ladies - time for me to go and work on the rest part. Two days to go until POAS for me
Wish I could report that I was having pregnancy symptoms (even just one would be good ), but unfortunately I cannot feel an absolute dam thing . I am 100% convinced I am out this round as cramping for me seems to be the indicator of something happening and this time I have nudda... not even a hint of a cramp! Just want to have my BT so I can move onto the next step. I forgot how crappy the 2ww was and how much it does your head in ....
Anyway, enough of my downer.... how are you? Looks like no pregnancy symptoms is a good thing for you ! I figure, things come in 3's and your next in line so here is 'ing your up! I agree with all the little things you are doing to help... DH and I are going back onto our strict diet we did when we got our BFP with DS in the hope that it will help us when we do a stim (unless we are really, really lucky and our one little snowbub defrosts and gives us a BFP of course - always a possibility!).
Yogi Bear & Saffy - Thanks for the support ladies . How is everything going? I have a good feeling you both have very sticky little bubs on board and all will be well! Let us know how you are going .
Hi everyone. I haven't posted here for a while. I'm 41 and have had 3 ectopic pregnancies. I've been TTC since 2006. I was ruled out of ivf because my natural FSH levels were way too high. My sister wanted to donate eggs for us but she (being my twin) was in the same boat with her FSH levels. I'm in my TWW with my 3rd (including my sister) hope / attempt at a donor egg cycle of IVF. My first donor egg cycle was cancelled because my beautiful donor had to pull out; her husband got cancer. So I didn't even get to egg collection stage. We were blessed with another offer (our third including my sis) and I am so very grateful and now I am waiting and hoping and waiting and hoping. It's making me a little crazy, and I'm feeling very grumpy. I think it's the progesterone. I was really cheerful when I was just on the oestrogen!
There's not many posters in the donor section and I'm feeling a bit lonely. This is our only embryo. None of the others made it, so none to freeze. My DH is trying his best to be wonderful and supportive. I feel guilty that I am grumpy because this is what we were dreaming about for so long. Any body out there in cyber land who understands how I feel? The wondering is very hard. Along with the giving up of alcohol and the severe coffee and brie restrictions!!
Edited to add: I'm feeling a bit less grumpy tonight. I want to send lots of sticky vibes to the BFP girls and some happy vibes to any one else in the TTW. My BT is on 22 August... I don't think I'll POAS beforehand because I don't want to lose hope so soon. The longer I don't know, the longer I have hope, right? Let's see if my will power holds out!
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KMond - Hi hun, just checking up on you.... are due for your BT today? If you are than here is loads and loads of ! GOODLUCK and I hope to hear some good news from you soon!
Rae - Welcome to the 2ww! It's hard, isn't it? I'm sorry to hear about your elevated FSH levels . It is so wonderful that someone is kind enough to donate their eggs for you . I really hope you little embie on board is the sticky little one you have been waiting for! I'm glad you are feeling a little bit better. I can definitely relate to the feeling grumpy part so you are not alone there . How are you feeling today?
AFM - Still not feeling very confident, but am more at peace with it now.... I usually POAS before BT but I really don't want to see only 1 line so I think I will actually wait this time, although I still have 3 more sleeps to go so you never know, he, he (I even went to buy a pack of FRER tests yesterday but restrained myself!). The only change I can report is that I had a lower back ache on Saturday and yesterday (can't seem to feel it today). Hopefully it is a good sign of sorts and not the wicked wictch on her way or it could also just as easily have been caused from picking up DS the wrong way I guess....
Sending all the lovies ladies in the 2ww lots of !
Hi there Rae congrats on being PUPO! I hope the next week goes quickly for you.
Coral & Kmond how are you both going? Any sneaky pee stick results? Hoping for some great news in here soon
I hope you ladies dont mind that i keep popping in here, as i know i dont really belong. But i just dont feel ready to move to the pg thread just yet...i think there should be another thread called "3WW for nervous BFP ladies waiting for scan". Yeah Kmond i had another bt last week and levels still rising nicely so am relieved about that, but then again i know all too well that what looks good on paper does not necessarily mean a successful outcome, so i'm just trying to take it one day at a time and see where this journey takes me. I have my scan booked for friday morning and already getting nervous about it!
Saffy, how are you going? When is your scan? I hope you are doing a better job at keeping cool than me!!
Lots of love & sticky baby dust to everyone
Yogi
xxx
Back in here again on my last natural cycle before another IVF round (or 10 )
CD 18 today. Yesterday (around lunchtime) I had some bloody CM and this morning it was back - a little worse. Not sure what it is. Of course, the irrational part of me wants to say implantation bleeding, but the sane, rational part (yes, she is still in there somewhere ) knows it's too early. I don't ever remember bleeding during ovulation so it really is a mystery..... .....
Hope all are well. I am home sick today with a rotten cold
I am feeling a bit better today on the grumpiness scale but anxiety is kicking in. I feel like my RE/FS didn't explain enough to me to really understand what's going on, I feel like I had to learn it myself through the pamphlets I was given and the internet. I think it was because I have had a few "almost" cycles he seemed to think I knew what was going on. I like his positivity and I'm happy overall with the care I have received, but if I had been more anxious (which is possible with me!) and I hadn't read the "instructions" I wouldn't have even known to keep taking the progesterone and oestrogen. I was looking at the medicare receipt and have only just discovered that they did sperm insemination, well we were charged for it any way. I am happy to hear that because my donor is 37 and we didn't get many eggs; but I didn't even know. I feel a bit like I'm having to take responsibility for explaining stuff to my husband because he didn't come to any of the appointments this time round and I don't have all the facts.
I'd feel better if I knew that my hormone levels were still okay for supporting a pregnancy and I'd really like more information on chemical pregnancy. How will I know if I have a positive BT if it is chemical or not? Is there even a way to know?
I am really grateful that I have been given time off work to relax and rest (I work in a daycare centre with babies to 18 month olds) because I know I would over do t at work, lift and stress out etc. But it has given me so much time to fret! Ha ha. Can't win.
Hoping that things are still going well for the BFP girls and that the wait is less anxious and grumpy for the waiters.
Sorry to hear you don't feel you are being given enough information. Have you tried phoning or emailing your clinic to ask for more info? I find my clinic nurses are fantastic at answering questions.
With regards to chemical pregnancies, there is no real way of knowing but if your HCG levels are really low, it's a pretty good indication it's a chemical pregnancy. Similarly, if you register an HCG level but then your period arrives, it is considered a chemical pregnancy.
Thank you so much for replying nothing2lose! I think the nurses would be more than happy to answer any questions if they had time but I haven't asked. I think I'll ask on my BT day.
I am wondering about taking progesterone which I thought stopped bleeding, I guess if the BT is negative I just stop taking the medication? And then I will bleed. I am pretty worried about the massive mood swings if I have to stop taking the medication.
It's not just me and my darling hubby (we have been together for 21 years!!) but my ED who is attached to this outcome. I feel such a responsibility, because even though I feel and know in my heart this will be my child if it works out; at this stage I feel like I have been delivered a beautiful gift that they made for me and I wish I could have more control over making this work now it's my turn to do something! (Not to take away from my husband the fact that that it wold be "our" child not just mine, but in the context of this statement I'm talking about my feelings....)
Hmmm. Getting pretty deep now, luckily I have a wonderful therapist who I am seeing this afternoon, I perhaps should keep this for my therapy session, but she doesn't know what it's like to experience long term infertility like you guys. Thanks again for the support and for somewhere to put my thoughts during this very intense TWW.
I know what you are saying re: it's your turn to "do something" (not that I have gone down the donor egg route) but really it is not something YOU can control IYKWIM. Please don't blame yourself if this transfer doesn't result in a pregnancy, because, after all, it would more than likely be due to the embryo itself, not you... Anyway, hopefully this talk is all pointless because you get a BFP!
With regards to progesterone, it only stops bleeding sometimes. I bleed through crinone and I know a lot of other women still get AF if they are not PG while on progesterone. Stopping the progesterone (which you will be advised to do if you are not pregnant) usually results in a heavier than usual period. I guess it causes mood swings too - hard to tell because you naturally feel pretty crappy if you get a BFN....
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