LTTTC Two Week Wait - Feb/Mar 2009

Mollygirl, I hope you're wrong. It sucks when we know our bodies so well. The eternal optimist, I'll keep hoping for you.

I am going through wierd stuff, don't know this body at all and my plans to ignore all symptoms went out the door when my new enormous knockers took on a life of their own!!! OMG, talk about progesterone overload, I have been in all sorts of trouble with my bbs. Here's one to rival that embarrassing toilet paper story of Dusty's, the other night, I went to pull my doona up in the night and I reefed up my (you guessed it...my...ouch... nipple!!). Holy ouch man! I screamed. Those puppies usually do their natural lying around thing in bed and don't point at the ceiling!! i'm not a big girl usually (but well just call me Pamela, I've got norks, jugs, whatever you call them and they hurt all the time. See strange stuff, how do you ignore that?

Sooooo....I haven't POAS but it's getting tempting being aware all the time about these not so fun bags! Hahahahaha

Hi Murph, Sorry I missed you in my post, good luck to you in your TWW also, and take care of those bb you will need them soon lol. Fingers crossed for you all.

Hi Smithy, Yes, a natural FET for me, it is my first one, I have previously done 3 HRT FETs, I am hoping this might make a difference. I am hoping for ET around the 13th, it is my birthday on the 30th March, and I am praying I will be like some of the lucky Feb girls who got a BFP for their birthday. Sending you lots of luck in the prep for your FET.

Mollygirl, I have read so many times that AF pains don't mean a BFN. I am hoping and praying you are wrong. xx

Hugs to all.

Hi dusty, another post for you too, I hope your natural TWW is going well, when will you know the result? Praying for the best surprise for you, I have faith that anything can happen. xx

hi girls
bdt: hope scan goes well for you, i am doing natural FET too, except pregnyl after transfer which wasn't that bad last time. praying for BFP's for us both !!!!! see you in here soon

mollygirl: still hope til no af. the thing is Pregnant Untill Proven Otherwise (PUPO) someone said it and i am saying it to you. fingers crossed.

murph: so funny the big boobs thing, i am still laughing. lol. hope settles down soon . maybe make the most of it and wear a low down top and show them off. good luck.

i am sure i have forgotton someone so sorry for that .

afm: well i rekon i will ov on sat so looks like we're on track for tue FET. i am praying for a BFP. still remaining positive. this is it.

good luck to all TWW and see you in here soon

Hi Ladies - a quick question. I'm on an IUI cycle, was taking Puregon, Trigger was Ovidrel, first pregnyl injection due tomorrow (IUI was done on Wednesday this week).......is implantation time the same as a non stimulated cycle ie 7 to 10 days after procedure?? or is it earlier? I'm not expecting anything early, I've just been meaning to ask the question of the nurses and keep forgetting!!

Baby2B: I would class day after IUI as Day 1, and yes, I am pretty sure the LP is the same as a non ac cycle. Have a read back in the old TTC with IUI cycles, there is mountains of info there about IUI's. I found it so helpful

Loula: fingers crossed for you today if you decided to poas,

Aleenta: Happy tummy rubs to you


Molly: I hope your wrong, and the witch stays away

Murph: Oh I mean Pam ... I hope you have supportive bra to help you out, fingers crossed

AFM: I have been lurking, hoping for you all, from the sidelines. My af due the 4/5th March. Still having the headaches across the forehead, which I had last time, before I poas'd, and I remember looking back and saying, "oh that's what those headache's were".. The only real symptom I can hold a little hope of a natural miracale on.. I have made an appt with optomotrist (sp)for next week

B2B I believe implantation can occur later than 10 dpo.

Loula/Mollygirl wasn't today POAS day? I hope things are ok for you both. MG I had cramping last cycle I did and I was UTD. I also had 3 BFN POAS the 3 days before BT - I had no idea I was UTD. It is not over til the BT :crossfingers:

Murph01 aka Pam :rofl:, good sign hunny and great story. I convinced myself that my BB were because of all the poking I was doing but it was a real sign. Hoping you

AFM, I am still lurking around the place. I should be over half way through my TWW, but haven't been thinking about it tooo much. Had a little cramping on cd 20 which could have been constipation (!) but nothing else since then. I am off for the next 4 days in Brisbane so I look forward to seeing how you are all going then. I probably wont POAS but you never know....

:hello: everyone. Sticky vibes and baby dust to all xx

POAS = :bfn:

Not much else to say at the moment - just shattered....again.....:cry:

You know what, in amongst all of my moping around and feeling sorry for myself, I have only just realised that someone bought me a platinum membership.

Thank you so much to the kind soul out there. You just made me smile on a day where i thought nothing would cheer me up - thank you!

Oh cuss-word hon,

Damn, I am so so so so so sorry.

((((((((molly))))))))

What helped me a little is that I told myself over and over that in nature, not every fertillised egg takes. There is only a 50% chance and people not having IVF have the same problem ('cept they aint payin like we are ) Our bodys are imitating what would occur in nature.

Again sweets, I am so sorry.

Sammie

Mollygirl,I'm really sorry for you. It seems you knew your body signs and it's just awful that you had to have another set-back on this long hard journey. Give those king charles spaniels lots of extra cuddles...dogs are the best people! They always find something to smile about and it catches on:hug::hug: Take care of yourself.

I tested early and I got a BFN but I'm not ruling anything in or out yet. I take heart from Dusty's experience with 3 BFNs and then a positive blood test. I'm not feeling AF, but then didn't last month either. You just never know with all this progesterone in the system.

I only had the one POAS with the strict instructions...do not use until 2/2/09 (yeah right!) so I won't know anything til my blood test now.

I'll keep you abreast of any further changes with me. Bad bad bad.:redface:

looks like theres some sticky vibes needed in the TWW. so i'm sending you all some.

Hi Mollygirl,
I am sorry that you got a BPN today. I POAS today too and I got a BPN, it's so disappointing :doh:
I am sorry to hear that you are sad and I hope that you start to feel better soon.

:goodluck:

It's so close now I'm so so so excited. I still feel so different this time. I haven't told very many people and I think that has been a big help. Last time there were too many well wishers. I know they mean well but I got sick of all the pressure. This time it's DP step son, and one lady from work who is 7 months pregnant after TTC for 4 years. I know she respects my privacy and only does a thumbs up sign when she sees me. Makes me feel happy but not like she's in my personal life too much.

Any other ladies feel like that with ICSI/IVF TTC, no privacy, everyone thinks it's ok to tak TTC 24/7.

Being in my own home this week has been amazing. I've had a great feeling all week, It's PEACE and space. Love it!

So 8am Monday. In I go then busy busy busy till Noon when I find out. BFP :pray:

Hi to everyone,

Murph - your BB story - hilarious - I was looking at mine in the mirror today and they have definitely had a growth spurt but I am telling myself it's probably just the progesterone pessaries, although very hard not to get hopes up

Dusty - hope your au naturale TWW is progressing well

Mollygirl and Lianne - big hugs to you both, I'm sorry your POAS was not positive - it's very hard to keep positive when that happens

Greenslw - Good luck for Monday 8am - let's hope Monday's are lucky - my BT is the following monday at 750am.

AFM - still crazy busy at work and have the in-laws visiting which has been a bit challenging - haven't told them about ivf, they are elderly and I just don't think they would understand, but not drinking has been hard - a glass of wine or too can really take the edge of things when you have house visitors - instead I have turned to chocolate!

I have experienced a lot of twinges this month which I haven't had before, but I am not sure if it is in my head. I am really looking forward to accupuncture on Monday - really makes me feel good - and yes am still rubbing my tummy!!

Can anyone tell me whether or not prog pessaries interfere with POAS? Am not sure whether or not I should this time??? Have not have prog before so unsure..... Also what false symptoms does it give? - let me guess - all of them :doh:

I get confused with DPO and when should I test - I had ET last Monday - day 3 embies, and I had a shot of ovidrel on the sat prior and only prog since.....

Hopefully we can all stay sane,
hugs to all
xx

Hey does anyone know if there is any benefit to having BT even when you know you are not pg? I have tested a few times all BFN and i am so pre menstrual its not funny. My BT is tomorrow but the clinic is so far out of my way and i have to be late for work amd i just wondered if anyone knew if they check other hormone levels and stuff that might be useful info to them???? If not i really don't see the point in going. Besides, is it just me, or does anyone else find it hard to hear that you are not pg even when you know you are not pg. I just hate that call.
Any advice???

Hi Mollygirl1977 - You just never know.. If AF hasn't arrived there is still hope.. Dusty got 3 BFN's and then a positive BT.. I don't want to freak you out but it can happen.. I am really hoping that this is the case for you... Goodluck Hun... :hug:

Hi MG -

my understanding is they are able to see if there was any implantation at all - so could be useful information for the future and also to rule out possible ectopic issue as well. I know it's really hard, the way I have looked at it in the past is as an 'information gathering' BT and I just assume a negative phone call.

On the other hand as lil miss says its not over until it's over so for this reasons plus the ones above if you can bring yourself to do it, it's probably not a bad idea.....

Hope you are ok with whatever you decide
x

Hey Molly - i would still go for BT as they will rule out if implantation happened at all?

AFM - I know that i am not UTD, after 12 cycles and 4 MC and 1 ectopic, you really do just know. i was so negative about this cycle and TBH just did it to use up these embies as i knew that they would never stick!

Have been away all weekend and only POASed today when we returned and as guess BFN, i will try to pursuade my clinic to let me bring my BT forward to Tuesday as it works easier with me for work, and i just want to get off this bloody HRT and P4, ao that af came begin and i can start to feel a little normal again.

Ice cream and cake is helping me through

Thanks for all your advice.

I will go for BT in the morning, after all, after 9 transfers and no BFP i would almost welcome the information that implantation had at least begun to take place. At least it would have been a start. It just gets so frustrating when you feel like your body can't even fall pregnant. Not that i ever want to know the heartache of a MC but i just wish i knew that i could fall. Does this make sense???

i totally understand Mollygirl... you would not wish a MC on anyone, but it would be good to know that something was actually working.

i went for my BT with my IVF last august. i actually thought i was UTD, but only a reading of 7HCG. this was classed as an "unviable pregnancy". i was shattered and cried for 4 days straight. this is hard on my daughter(3.5yrs) at the time as she doesn't understand why mummy is sick and visit's the doctors all the time.
either way you are let down. not getting the BFP, getting it then having a MC or being so close when they tell you that something had started to work and then stopped.

i find it hard to know what to do next. i try and have a break between try's. not only to save for it! but to gather my thoughts and health. i am going to try a new acupuncturist this month as well. maybe she will do the trick as she specialises in IVF.
i will be trying a newish drug this month called Femara or Letrozole.
i am hoping it will work and speed this horrible evil nightmare along....
take care,
will be thinking of you tomorrow.
michelle

Hi ladies,

I think that a few of us might be in the same camp at the moment. Mollygirl, I totally know what you mean about that feeling that you just can't get there. I joke that I have never seen so much as two lines on an opk, let alone a poas but it does get you down after many attempts. I've been with DH for 15 years and never come close to missing af or having a scare. God we welcomed a scare, we never used protection! I had all my tests, laperoscopy, endoscopy and something else done 8 years ago and was told everything was perfectly healthy and not to worry about it. "If you get to 35 and still havent' fallen pregnant, then you can start to worry". Well yeah thanks, I'm 35 now and I've been on the IVF trail for 2 and a half years! Something tells me I could have been advised to start exploring problems earlier. Now I just have no hope that it will ever happen.

That's hardly a cheery thought but in some ways it would be a relief to stop trying, to stop thinking about it and wanting it. I'm having an off day...probably AF around the corner and no chocolate in the house.

Good luck with your BT Mollygirl. Greenslw:crossfingers: Loula, I hope you are wrong, but we know these damn bodies so well. I'm sure I'm out too.

Kittycat, goodluck on the new treatment drugs. Aleenta, hang in there.

I haven't mentioned you all but am following everyone when I can and wish you all lots of sticky vibes.

Good afternoon girls,

Well I am FINALLY back in TWW :D

I have 1 embie on board. BT on 13/3 (Friday the 13th!!!) My FS wanted to put 2 in but of the 4 eggs they collected, only 1 made it. Ive only produced 2 embies from 10 eggs. So Im really hoping this is the one! Im feeling alot more positive and relaxed this time as Ive been doing acupuncture so have felt that has helped me alot.

Greenslw - Good luck for today. Await your news.

Mollygirl - sorry to hear your news. I can totally understand where you are coming from.

Lots of :stickyvibesgirl: Look forward to spending the next 2 weeks with everyone here.

Cheers,

Tania :D

see you in here soon. looks like FET is fri now as my dates were out my one day and fs is away thur.


fingers crossed

hoping for lots of BFP's in here soon

Well i got the official BFN today from the clinic.

DH and i are both feeling very flat at the moment - i know we will find the strength to continue but sometimes it just seems so unfair.

Hope there has been some good news today. Murph wasn't your BT today?
Loula, i know you feel you are out too but i will think positive thoughts anyway until Bt is confirmed
Everyone else in TWW hope you can bring some better news to the forum this month.

:bfp:I'm pregnant, it's official. I'm so over the moon, my HcG was 1400 :)

I'm still shaking,
DP was home today which was amazing, he says he know, gosh know's how but he's on top of the world and so am I.

So now comes the fun stuff. And a big adventure.

I know it's only early but I'm going to enjoy every minute.
:loveshower:

Congratualtions Greenslaw!!!:happyforyou:

enjoy every moment as it will go so fast.
document everything and keep things, even if you don't think they are important at the time.
they will be later on.
this is a very special and truly wonderful time.
enjoy every second of it.
michelle

:bluedust: to everyone else TTC!

GREENSLW...congrats hun yep enjoy every moment :happyforyou:

Molly - hun, sometimes i think ill write im sorry, but words are so hard to put together after this kind of disapointment. You know i will be thinking of you.

Greenie! congratulations - thoese numbers sound really really high, did you have two tfed?

Hi All,

this is my second time in the 2WW, I am now day 20 of my cycle, had a FET (5 day embryo) on day 17, big test next Wednesday, but af may come sooner (I have short cycles) so am fighting the urge to POAS, how many of you are tempted to test before the day? And would you reccomend it? I bought 2 hpt yesterday, but have not broken either open yet!

Had some minor spotting on day of implantation and mild cramps for a few days. I feel amazingly upbeat, but as this is only my second try I am trying to be realistic about another possible failure. Its sad to hear some of you girls have not been successful and feel for you all, this is not easy for us is it? I am happy to hear of some success stories though as it gives you hope that you one day you may be one of them. Good luck to all those still waiting!!

CONGRATULATIONS GREENSLW!!!!! :happyforyou: Hope you have a H & H 9 months :D

Mollygirl - take care of yourself, am thinking of you.

Buggirl - this is my 2nd time in TWW as well. I did test the first time even though I was adviced not to but I was too impatient! Not sure what I'll do this time as AF is due the day after my BT. I think the decision is purely up to yourself. Good luck with whatever you decide.

AFM, feeling quite relaxed at the moment although I do have a head cold so not physically feeling the best. Very headachy and am all congested. Im hoping this doesnt affect my embie or implantation. :pray:

Lots of :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl:

Tania

CONGRATS GREENIE
All the best for a healthy pregnancy :dance:

CONGRATULATIONS GREENSLW!!! Can I say i'm very jealous but am absolutely thrilled for you!!!! Well done!

Greenslw...you are a quiet achiever, excellent news. I got goosebumps at 3am when I read your news.

What was I doing up at 3am...stressing about my BT today and telling myself I just wanted to do some study...yeah right, I took so much in!!

So I had my BT today and now have the long wait of hearing form my clinic late this afternoon (or even tomorrow!). On my way home, I started consoling by demolishing half a block of chocky (having lost 5 kilos lately, there was no way I could be pregnant). I sneaked a poas (single test into the basket at the shops) and sneaked both the chocolate and the test past my DH when I got home and went straight to the bathroom. I poas and after one minute...dadadadada TWO PINK LINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahahaha!!! i love it Murph! Good luck today. I'm crossing everything for you!

Thats TERRIFIC news Murph! Nothing wrong with caving in, we all do it :D Look forward to hearing your results when you get the call. Good luck :D

Looking good Murph01!! My fingers crossed for some good news for you!! How exciting!

Girls I had my mid 2ww blood test today and my progesterone levels have come back on the low side (26 and was told they should be above 25). Because i'm on the low side they are starting me on pessaries......does that mean i'm not likely to be pregnant??? I'm CD22 and due for testing on 13 March.

;)BABY2BEE.. i have just found this but i really have no idea hun but trying to help ya ok im no dr pmsl.....dr smith lol...

Before pregnancy: 1 to 28 ng/ml
Conception to 12 weeks: 9 to 47 ng/ml
12 to 28 weeks: 17 to 146 ng/ml
28 weeks till birth: 55 to 200 ng/ml