Hi all,
I've been lurking from time to time. First of all, thank you to Dusty and the other girls who completely understood my obsession and need to back off.
Just got a few comments to make that might give a bit of hope to the hopeless. I heard of a couple who had their embies in storage for 7 years and were only contacted by their clinic to ask whether they should throw them out or donate them. They thought, what the hell, let's have one last try and yep preggas after 7 years on ice!
Also my mate sees an f.s in Darwin, but on holidays near Cairns, I hooked her up with my F.S in November. He found that her own f.s had overlooked something totally simple, like helping to establish her ovulation and cutting her cycle back from 42 days. OMG!!! Guess what? She's now 5 and a half weeks pregnant after 2 years of relentless trying and never even had to start IVF. Awesome news!
A comment on my clinic in Cairns, as you were talking about staff at one point. my clinic is fantastic and couldn't fault it. If you have the option to shop around for quality staff and service in Melbourne or big cities, it really makes a difference. From the reception staff, nurses, F.S, anaesthetist and the embryologist and all the day surgery staff (in a completely different clinic), there is just a culture that is absolutely beyond criticism in my experience and I have told them this. I have had the opposite in a public system in Townsville where i have laid shivering and in shock, neglected with my husband searching the hospital for me after my laperoscopy, endo, etc.... I was so scared going into this procedure due to previous experince but my 1st egg pick up and transfer in day surgery here were sooooo good. I was very sick and treated so well after releasing 17 little suckers! Bedside manner and patient care makes all the difference.
I'm currently gearing up for my 1st frostie transfer(s). I'm taking oestogen tablets and trying to get the lining thickening this time around. I'm not in the TWW yet but it's getting exciting after such a long time out of the loop.
So sorry for you Spring that you didnt get your BFP. And sorry for your DH, i think it is so hard for them as well.
I know my husband gets very depressed too because he has low sprem count/mobility and there is not really anything wrong with me so of course he takes a lot of the blame.
So looks like we will be continuing on together. May see you in this thread again within the next few months or so.
Sorry I can't help with the IVF stuff and questions as I havent got to that yet. Hope fully wont have to but yep sorry i can't be of help.
Thinking about you though and everyone else.
xo
BIG HUGS FOR SPRING AND LOOPS. i really hope you girl achieve your dream soon. please take care of yourselves. its so difficult and IKWYM about DH, i think its also tough for guys in that they can't control it. do try to keep looking ahead, eventhough its difficult.
HI MURPH! good ol Qld Health! that's great your clinic in cairns is so good cos i imagine you aren't spoilt for choice (i'm an ex-Tableland girl). do you have idea yet on when the transfer will be??? :
question regarding FET - i'm not on any drugs or support etc and this is my first frzen transfer - is that normal? i just note murph is on drugs. I only have pcos though, no endo. I had suspected this FET was a bit like the first IVF - a little experiemental to see how my body responds.
Spring : Hugs for you darls, I am sorry this cycle did not work out for you...I have read here on BB that you can transfer your frosties from one clinic to another. You really need to contact your clinic and the clinic you are thinking of going to and check out the protocol.
It will happen Spring, some of us just have to wait longer than others, it seems in a partnership it is one partner or the other, who is feeling the burden of "its my fault",in some cases. I know how some men/women can feel, it seems in my situation that it's my eggs that are the problem, so sometimes I feel like a failure, but then my dh picks me up, and tells me .. its not over, dont give up, just keep reasuring dh, and let him know, he is not alone, our long awaited bfp, can take time, and one way or another, you have to believe you and he, and all us wonderful deserving people are going to get it .... xx
Wishingbaby - so sorry AF arrived. Its really soul destroying, I know but you will pick yourself up and try again, I am sure
Neptune - Praying you FS doesn' need to figure things out until you are looking at No 2.
Grub - totally understand the self preservation tactic. Doing myself this time after really thinking last cycle was a BFP. I really don't want that fall again but sadly, I know it will still hurt even wihout much expectation. Hope you are pleasnatly suprised
Rob - Praying its not the crinone keeping AF away but yes, it certainly can
Kelly - have a good feeling for you this time. Hope the next week flies by. When do you strat new job?
Loops and spring - so, so sorry for BFN. It is so heartbreaking for all of us to have to keep coming back in here. This thread needs to clear out!
LS - hope you don't need to but yes, most clinics would get you to do about 2-3 back to back OI cycles. So you would start back on FSH within a couple of days of AF starting. It at least gives you something to focus on whilst getting over AF arriving!
Me just plodding through the week. very scared of finding out result. I will certainly know before BT on the 12th as AF always comes on time ( due the 10th) despite pessaries
Spring, Loops, Wishing baby - I'm so sorry it wasn't your time.
Spring - I'm sure you can change FS and take embies with you, I've heard of other people doing that
Ms Pink - Hi! Hope your embies are settling in well.
Kylie - Welcome! Good luck
Hayley - I will be praying hard for you (and all of us here) despite your unattachment to your ET!!! Good luck
Rob - Good luck! I'm sorry, but it's hard to know when AF is due when you have been on all teh drugs! It definitly could be delayed.
Baby2bee - We have all been guilty of POAS whilst on PRegnyl. I did it last time, and I knew it was a false pos, but I just LOVED seeing the 2nd line.
KellyD - You'll be carrying us all home with you BT on the 16th! Bit of a wait though
AFM: Still feeling a bit depressed about FS visit, but also feeling more hopeful today. I just want to get my BT over and done with so I can get on with the next cycle, that's how sure I am that I am not BFP. I did the same as Baby2bee and POAS this morning, just to see...it was strongly positive, but I had PRegnyl on Sunday morning....so probably too soon to really know. Stupid I know, but maybe I am just a sucker for punishment?
Spring & Loops : so soory that AF has arrived for you both. I only hope that you will be back in here soon, although take all the time you need.
LS: I did 3 cycles of OI with no result (I also have PCOS). Due to follicle numbers not being receptive to clomid after our 3 attempts I went straight to IVF as if I then went to IUI I still would have had the same issue with lack of or too many follicles (thereby cancelling cycles all the time).
Grub: re: Support. It depends on what type of FET you have done. If it is a Natural FET ie: FET is done after ovulation, you generally don't take any type of support as when you ovulate the corpus luteam generates the progesterone required, although in my case after O my progesterone level was slightly low (20), so I'm taking extra progesterone to help. When the FET is a HRT Cycle (I've had 2 of them) you take more medication because basically your body is put into a menopause state and then you take estrogen medication to thicken the lining and progesterone to then support the lining as with a HRT cycle you don't ovulate.
Meredith: Hope you are not going crazy yet. Oh, and I start work next Monday (9/2) so that helps to take my mind of the TWW countdown.
to everyone else in the TWW..
AFM: Well nothing much to report from me, just some mild discomfort this morning feels like little pin *****s. But maybe I'm just paying too much attention to anything at the moment. I'm not feeling anything either way this time as well, although I'm only 4 days into the TWW so probably by next week I'll get more of a gut feeling.
Well I am feeling blah today. Decided to POAS and got a BFN!!! My BT due Sat but I don't think its even worth it to be honest. I think once the crinone stops AF will come and it will be all over, Bugger!!! Is it still possibl;e to get a positive when I am 9 days after the transfer and its is a neg HPT does anyone know or am I better to just accept it now and move foreward. Damn drugs I really thought this may have been good. I have really felt like AF coming just a little tight in lower central abdo when i sit upright for too long or when I lay flat and bring legs up, but could the crinone be causing that too.
I was going to reply to Grub, but KellyD you did a better job than I would have. I never really know what I'm taking or why. Crazy I know but I'm only just coming to terms with this girly stuff! My husband is the one who takes it all in and knows precisely what stage we are up to. He's a zoologist so it's all very interesting to him.
Yes I only found out the facts by asking the nurse some embarrassing questions when I booked my scan. Doh! I didn't know that ovulation doesn't happen when you're on the oestrogen tablets.
So Grub, I think you are the stage I got to in December. I was on a completely natural cycle, (no drugs) to see if my body would prepare itself for frostie implant. I think it's just a first step protocol to try you out naturally, then try the drugs next cycle if your body doesn't respond. I think they would prefer you to go to drugs but there is a slight chance I suppose. You're aiming for that good thick lining for the frostie to snuggle into. Mine didn't thicken and f.s wouldn't waste good embies. That's why the HUGE wait to get back on board with Chrissy closures, holidays and leave. It was a good break out of the tension tho' so I can't complain.
Scan is booked for next wednesday 11th and if all goes well, transplants this time will happen on Tuesday 17th. It takes over my life a bit more than some cos I have 2 hours drive each way just to go for scans, bloods etc since my clinic won't risk outsourcing anything locally.
Well looks like its all over for me too I spoke with clinic today about test and I can go locally and have it timorrow. The nurse wasn't very encouraging, she said if I did a POAS and it was BFN that I probably am not, so that's it.
I have an app already booked with FS for early March so I think I will just go for a FET but if I can go natural and just ask them to thaw 2 and if so put 2 back. I don't know if they will but I would like to think it's worth a try. This time all my lining etc was above good, it needed to be 8mm and was 11mm etc so I don't know why they gave the crinone but I would just like to take a chance on my own.
Anyway that's all from me.
Lots of for everyone else ... oh and aleenta I hope you get a tomorrow hun xox
Just wanted to quickly pop my head in a give big hugs to spring, loops and wishingbaby. Im sorry it didnt work out this cycle and hope you are all doing ok and looking after yourselves.
Rob - I know it is hard but try not to despair. Remember it isnt over until it is over. And yes, it is possible to get a neg HPT now and a positive one later. Very possible. Am thinking of you.
Good luck KellyD, hoping the TWW flys by.
Meredith - we are almost b/t buddies, with mine on the 13th!!!
AFM - exactly one week until b/t. Not much to report on. Getting very dull but strong abdominal cramping but I am sure it is from the crinone. Damn drugs!!!
Hi all.....anothery checking in! I'm having a very different cycle to my last. Last cycle I 'felt pregnant'....this one i don't however I feel a lot more confident on this one. Not as many symptoms as last (in fact hardly any) and just feel like i'm plugging along! Who bloody knows with all these drugs. Last pregnyl injection was today before blood test on Monday
Last edited by Baby2Bee; February 5th, 2009 at 02:17 PM.
I'm still trying to find my feet in this thread as far as personal replies go but I am following everyone's progress
Thanks so much for all the lovely welcomes and wishes of luck
To everyone who has got a BFN - I'm so sorry - it stinks!
As for me - I'm a complete and utter mess! I was feeling really confident yesterday but today all I can do is sleep and cry - confidence level = big fat zero! Oh well, I've had a doozie of a cycle this time so I guess the 2ww was going to be bad
I'm due to test on Saturday the 14th but I think I might just wait to see if AF arrives on the 16th - I really do dislike those little sticks that never give me good news LOL
Hi lovely ladies, I have lurking around in the TWW though I am still 2 weeks from starting my FET cycle. Just can't help myself, and I love to write long posts, so here goes?
Aleenta, GL for your BT, we are all praying for you and will be on the edge of my set to see your results.
Lulu, welcome back to the TWW, wishing you all the best for a BFP.
Wishingbaby, again so sorry to hear about AF, if you move on to IUI I hope this is the one that does the trick.
Spring, I am so sorry, I felt for sure it was your turn, what with you getting to your BT day without AF. I never make it to BT day, AF always rears her ugly head two days before. I have to say, I totally understand how you and your DH feels, especially DH as it appears that I am the one that is the reason for IVF not working yet, and I take a lot of the blame on to my shoulders. The only thing I can say is that it is still early days, you have only had 2 ETs, and you have achieved a BFP before, there is a lot of hope for you that I will happen again and be a sticky one. Re your frosties, I have just signed a consent form to get mine transferred to a new FS, it is quite easy, just arrange through your clinic once you decide on a new FS. But please don't give up hope.
Kylie, GL for your cycle, hoping for a BFP for you, great to hear you have your DTD days worked out.
Neptune, only a few days to go to BT, fingers crossed for you. Sunday was 4 days ago, maybe the Pregnyl is already gone. I know my trigger shot (of 10,000iu) was out of my system by 5 days as I did daily POAS. I really hope it is a true BFP.
Hayley, I hope you are wrong re this blastie and that it is the one that brings you a BFP. Stay positive. FETs have great success rates. And I usually do HRT FETs, but my new FS has said that she has great success with natural and wants to try with me. Hope it works for us both.
Rob, Crinone or pessaries never stop AF from coming for me, so hoping that is a good sign for you. And I have heard so many stories of neg POAS even on BT day and the actual BT has still been positive. How sensitive was your test? I so hope the nurse was wrong. And the crinone is for progesterone support, if you did a stim IVF cycle, you definitely need it as you wouldn't be producing it on your own.
Baby2Bee, I POAS right after trigger, just to see what it looks like to get two lines. I have never had a BFP. So I keep it and put it by my bedside and look at it all the time and pray for the day I will see it for real. Crazy huh? Also, I regularly check the position of my cervix, but still trying to work out what it all means, about the only significant thing I notice is how high or low, and the opening of the cervix. GL for your BT on Monday.
Kelly, OMG, not long to go now, bring on the 16th, that will be 19dpo for you right?Praying AF stays away and hope those blasties have snuggled in nice and tight.
Loops, I hope you are ok, so sorry to hear your news, and fingers crossed for next time round.
Lyra, hope you are coping well and the TWW is speeding by, the 9th is just around the corner.
Murph, yay, great to see you back, all the best for your FET, I hope it is the one. And thanks for the inspirational stories of hope, I hang on to them to keep me going, that one day it will happen for me too. GL for next Wed.
Wouldloveabubba, hi, I hope you are doing ok.
Meredith, I am sending you lots of sticky positive vibes, I hope you get to BT day and get the biggest BFP. Fingers crossed.
Diamond, GL for the next week, will be praying that you get your BFP. Those drugs do mess with your head.
I hope I have included everyone, sorry if I have missed you. Wishing you all the best for the TWW.
And?I had a look back through the thread and can't find anyone yet this year that has had a BFP, so for those still in the TWW, you are all in with a great chance, the best of odds.
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! Goodluck with your cycles! Cuddlepie - goodluck tomorrow hun!
so soory that AF has arrived for you both. I only hope that you will be back in here soon, although take all the time you need.
to everyone else in the TWW..
I spoke with clinic today about test and I can go locally and have it timorrow. The nurse wasn't very encouraging, she said if I did a POAS and it was BFN that I probably am not, so that's it.
tomorrow hun xox
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