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  1. #1
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
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    Yeah Xp is. But he is the kind that falls asleep standing up, has to keep moving to stay awake. Had a few head injuries over the years....

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    Dec 2006
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    Like me. I need to be moving too Lu. Otherwise i fall asleep. I can't watch telly without sleeping, so i iron or cook as i watch.
    Did he take any meds for it?

  3. #3
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    Nah, he is supposed to be going in for a sleep study, but things have improved over the years. He can function fine (not like before), and as long as he goes to bed at a decent hour and he is woken at a decent hour.

    He wouldn't take meds anyway. Too wary of them and he would be on them long term. He has learnt to live with it, because it's the way he was born. Like I said, things have improved HEAPS but it's been down to getting a good routine.

  4. #4

    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    Hi TD - I actually worked in a sleep disorders clinic for a couple of years & am trained to certicate level in this.

    Narcolepsy is very very rare. It is also very very over diagnosed. To be diagnosed you need to have a sleep study. This is where you will go in to a centre overnight (most centres are hospital based). You will be wired up for an eeg, ecg, oximeter, pressure bands etc. You are filmed whilst you sleep and a nurse will watch you and report on her observations of your sleep and what your ecg/eeg etc are saying.

    If you have sleep apnoea this is very likely why you are so tired. Sleep apnoea as you are probably aware is a condition where a person ceases to have respirations (apnoea) whilst they sleep at intervals. There is an apnoea and when o2 levels drop the patient usually (we hope!) arouses. This causes a loud snort or snore and then the process goes on. We can see from an eeg what stage of sleep you are in & how long you spend in each stage, how frequent your apnoeas are, how long they are etc. Sleep apnoea is very very dangerous due to the sleep deprivation. Due to the constant arousals patients never get regenerative sleep. Thus the tiredness. Patients fall asleep driving, eating, etc. With narcolepsy the sleep is more inappropriate. Pts will drop to the floor, sleep for only a second or two during a conversation etc.

    I have only seen in 2 years at a very large centre 2 cases of narcolepsy. The others were ? narcolepsy but really were from sleep apnoea.

    Good luck with your appointment - if you need any other info let me know...

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    Aug 2005
    Melbourne, Victoria
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    I also believe from everything i have heard from DH sleep specalist that most people with excessive day time sleepiness are actually from having sleep apnoea at night and being so sleep deprived.

    DH also can't in the evening stop moving or he will fall asleep = i found him last night sitting on the floor cleaning up the toys with his hand reaching out leaning on the edge of the toy box - he fell asleep trying to put the toy in.

    He is a lot better then before he was diagnosed (then he would do it at like 5pm), but the night before he forgot to wear his CPAP mask and hence was bad the next day.

    The dr said he has patients constanty fall asleep at traffic lights etc, one was a pilot who fell asleep flying a place (EEK!)

    It is all from sleep apnoea, but not narcolepsy, i believe those are people who actually look like they are putting it on but literally just fall asleep randomly (like from Moulin Rouge)

    How did your sleep study go?

    Do we want the name of this sleep specalist? Or i can refer you to a good ENT surgeon who operated on DS.

  6. #6
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    I wish xp would go in for the sleep study, but he just wouldn't . He has hit his head on benches, coffee tables, the fridge door when he drops down.

    I'm not sure what they would find - as a child he would sleep ENORMOUS lengths. He had to be woken for feeds as a baby and once he was at school he had to eat dinner by 4pm because he would be asleep by 5 and had to be really roused awake in the morning. Once he slept through nearly 24 hrs after an excursion.

    It looks like we will find the answers soon, he has started dropping again and goes all floppy on the floor. He is in for a CAT scan soon - hell knows what's going on. It happened the other night - asleep on the couch then woke up with shooting pains in his eyes, jumps around in pain then falls to the floor

  7. #7
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    Dec 2006
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    Far out Lu he seriously need help.

    I had my sleep study at home a few weeks back and got my results just 1-2 weeks ago. I have mild sleep apneoa, not severe enough to go on a CPAP, thank God. There was no real physical symptoms as to why i feel so sleepy during the day. Just the one deviated septum and that was not enough on its own to cause such sleep obstruction. So the first ENT just didn't know. he had no explanation. The second ENT said the same about the septum, but guessed it was narcolepsy as there was no other physical symptoms.

    he asked if i dream a lot. And i said OMG, yes. All the time and they are so vivid. So he said that it was REM sleep, so the good sleep another reason which made him suspect narcolepsy as i was getting really good night sleeps and enough of it.

    This has been happening throughout my whole life. Like Lu's XP, i was a baby that would sleep constantly and have to be woken for a feed. As a child, i loved long car trips as i would sleep all the way and never complain if we were there yet. I remember groaning about arriving at the destination!

    My father and uncles also sleep alot during the day. Another sign was being able to sleep within 5 minutes of going to me. Hand up. That's me. I can sleep within 2 mins of my head touching the pillow.

    I have fallen asleep whilst driving and found my car swerving towards the other side of the road.

    yael - does your Dh have physical abnormalities with his nose/throat etc, which may cause Sleep apnoea?

    I can't wait til 5th of March when i see the professor!