Thanks Emmy83.
Firstly, I am so so sorry that you have had such an awful and terrifying experience. I apologise whole heartedly if I have raised any emotions. I am truly sorry.
Secondly, I just want to give you a big hug and say thank you, finally I feel that someone is as concerned about this as me.
I have done a fair bit of research and have called my doc back this afternoon. They still don't know where bubba is living but because I am not showing any signs of danger (bleeding, no more spotting, pain etc), they think that waiting till Monday will be fine, but if any of this changes then to get to ER immediately. However if I am concerned they will do a lap for me straight away.
My HCG levels started rising slowly from my first bt.
14dpo - 40
16dpo - 70
19dpo - 290
6.5 weeks - 932
7.2 weeks - 1350
7.6 weeks - 2381
I had the scan at 3.30 yesterday afternoon and the sonographer actually asked if I definitely thought I was pregnant as there is no indication of it anywhere?
I am really frustrated about the whole thing to be honest and just want answers.
My problem when I first noticed all of this was that the clinic was closed over the xmas break and last week the scanning places were also closed!
I don't know if having another scan would pick up anything would it? Surely they would have seen signs of it yesterday. It was a pretty professional scanning place and it seemed pretty thorough.
I am scared to go in for surgery "just in case" IFKWIM. Am I trying to hold on to something that might not be there. But then part of me thinks what you mentioned about maybe losing a twin?
I think I am going to wait till Monday. I haven't had any brown spotting as such for almost a week. My CM however is between dark yellow and clear, which might not be right either.
Thank you again Emmy83, I will most certainly take your thoughts into seriousc considretaion.
xx
We will be thinking of you hun and you will be in my prays ..... if you are unsure or get any weird pain please go the the emergency or better still the maternity section and explain EVERYTHING ....... take care of yourself babe xxx we are all here if you need anything at all
I think you would be ok to wait longer to see what the BHCG is doing I was just thinking if it was ectopic then if they knew for sure now then you would have more options for treatment over surgery.
Unlike chepie my ectopic pregnancy didn't rupture my tube which was where it was it was the general anaethetic that almost killed me.
I guess another scan maybe still wouldn't pick it up so soon after the last. My BHCG at 15DPO was 71 then it actually went down before going back up again. Because it went down thats why despite my abdominal pain they were sure it wasn't ectopic. They also said I was never pregnant and one Dr said I was barely pregnant. I actually marched myself of to ED and sat in the chair and insisted they re-scan me and thats when they discovered it which all it did was confirm what I had been telling them for 3weeks. At the moment there isn't a day that goes by where I don't think about it so you haven't made any thing resurface.
I am sure they told you if you get any pain including shoulder tip pain to march yourself of to the hospital. Once again I am praying for the best possible outcome.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you Babyjo, and praying for your bubba to be in the right place, but I agree with Emmy & Chepie, even if you have to march up to the ED and demand an u/s for suspected ectopic. Prob not something you want to hear atm, but when I was preg with DS and had what I thought were contractions at 15wks and onwards up to 33.5 weeks (it was later diagnosed as an irritable uterus combined with braxton hick's) I got u/s's straight away to make sure DS was still alive and kicking, so they should be able to do the same for you, even if they have to admit you to maternity or wherever to do it. Also, took then 20 mins to find DS at the first u/s at 7wk6d, he was hiding behind part of my uterus, and they only found him via internal scan.
Did they do an internal scan
I would have thought there would have been some pain by now too if it was ectopic? Or am I wrong about that? I remember hearing it was at about 6-7 weeks that the pain can start if it is in a tube? Not sure if it's right though.
Also, I think I read somewhere that not everyone's HCG levels actually double every day during preg... and still have viable pregnancies that make it to term... I can't remember where I saw it though I know for sure that DS's HCG definately didn't double. 483 at 5.2 weeks LMP it says on my blood test results, and 5,628 at 7wk6d. Still within limits, but on the lowish side.
Another also, but I just asked my stepmum about bleeding she had early on with my step-sister (around the 6-8 week mark too), and she said that they told her she was having a m/c and to have a D&C. She refused and my stepsister was born almost 7 months later by c-sec. She's 16 now. They now suspect that she was preg with twins and lost one.
And yet another also, the HCG only comes after implantation which can occur approx 5-10 after O, so that could put the numbers out a bit too.
I never had pain with my borderline ectopic, but then they booked me in for the D&C the week after the first scan (which was at 6wk4d). He was right at the back on the edge of my tube, but I was told he could have slipped either way as he grew, but the other problems were what made the D&C the only option.
Also, just read a story in one of my magazines about a woman who took ages to find her bubba on the ultrasound because there was no or little amniotic fluid around it. That could also be a possibility.
Sorry for the long post, I'm probably just getting you more worried here, and offering conflicting opinions, but I'm trying to help, really.
Emmy - BIIIIIG HUGS darl! Thank you for sharing your story.
Chepie - BIIIIIG HUGS to you too darl, and also thank you for sharing your story as well.
Last edited by JennaJayen; January 13th, 2010 at 07:37 PM.
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JennaJayen, I can't thank you enough for that, no it hasn't scared me at all.
There is a little part of my mind that is saying hold on to it as long as you can, and I guess we all get that when we get our BFP so don't want to rush in for surgery just in case I can be one of those incredible mircales as in your post. I don't think I am but hey fingers crossed.
Yes, I had both an external scan and an internal scan. They checked uterus, ovaries, tubes, womb, everywhere. Everything seemed perfectly normal, no abnormalities at all.
I am at a lost as to what to think. All symptoms have gone, no more sore boobs etc but I am still seeing the odd brown mucus when I wipe (sorry tmi).
DH and I are thinking that we might just wait it out until Monday and see what that shows. We aren't sure either if the pain should have kicked in by now? Not that I am wishing for it! Actually I don't really know what pain to look out for, I guess I will know if it happens. Now that I am aware of it, every tinge is having me stop and think. Mind can play awful mind games once a seed is planted.
I have to say a big thank you again to all you ladies, you have provided me with so much support with this. I don't feel that support from the FS but I guess at the end of the day it is a job to them and we are just a number and that is disappointing in its own right.
A big hug to everyone and pray that one day we will ALL be holding our darlings in our arms.
Oh darl, any time you need to talk, just pm me. And if you want my phone number if you want to txt, just ask me any time.
I think the pain is supposed to be on the side that the ectopic is on, inside the hip, but I think it can radiate outwards too... Also (sorry tmi) another symptom of ectopic is pressure in or around the rectum, not related to doing #2's... not really a conversation starter, but just thought I add that too in case it helps as well.
I so hope you get good news though. Or, at the very least that it gets sorted out quickly so that you can start ttc again and get your darling sticky bubba (in the right place!) soon!
More BIIIIG HUGS for you!
Last edited by JennaJayen; January 13th, 2010 at 09:11 PM.
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