This is quite a fascinating discussion. I had never really thought of it before. I have noticed that at lunchtime, every time I sit Pup in his high chair and we are half way through his meal, he starts grunting and staring off into the distance and also occasionally goes red from pushing (I think he might be a bit consitpated 8-[ ). Sure enough, he's pooing!!

So I take it formt he conversation that there is an "ideal" age to start this and then once you miss that age, it is too late??? Is this right?

My mum says that I was a dream to "toilet train" because I did it myself. At about 12 - 14 months old, I refused to wear my nappy. Mum used to tenpin bowl in a comp back in those days and because she was running late, she just took a nappy and another pair of pants for me, anticiapting the inevitable. Which never came.

I myslef, can remember the night I stopped wetting the bed. I was not quite 2 and I used to have a plstic sheet ont he bed (because I refused nappies at night by then too) and I remember getting up, stripping the blankets off and feeling the sheet. I ran and got mum and made her feel the sheet too. I DEMANDED no plastic sheet the following night and while mum humoured me, thinking that it was short lived, I never wet the bed again.

Hope Pup is like that [-o<

(ooh sorry about that "trumpeting" of my own acheivements.)