Haven't used cloth since the old terry flats....Where do I start???

[Arimeh]

Jodie - yup they are expensive ( but still cheaper overall than using disposables!!!)

I haven't found a true AIO that I am completely happy with - more happy with my AI2's - I am in love with my itti bitti d'lish - so lush!!!! Plus you can get seconds for $22.00.

You can always go to buy for baby (google it) and buy secondhand ones.....

ETA: I class my IB's as AI2 cos I like the snap in ones. but you can get sewn in ones that are basically an AIO... they dry quite quickly too

[Arimeh]

I just thought of another thing. Most AIO's are sized - so you would have to buy 2 sizes - one for Kane and one for new bub - gets really expensive that way!!!

Pockets are expensive BUT are one size fits all - and its easy to just buy extra inserts - and when they just pee - remove the wet inserts and insert new ones cos the shell of the nappy would be ok still. Then you just replace the shell when they poop. Does that make sense?

Oh, plus you can buy extra inserts like hemp and bamboo - and they can turn into overnight nappies. One of my fav pockets for overnight is green kids - aussie company - nappies are around $23 - $26 (depending on outside material). If I was doing this from the start again I would have brought more inserts for my pockets (and the pockets dry really quick - inserts take longer, especially if they are hemp or bamboo - but can all be thrown in the dryer if need be)

Think thats all I wanted to say

[Pretty Butterfly]

Pockets are expensive BUT are one size fits all - and its easy to just buy extra inserts - and when they just pee - remove the wet inserts and insert new ones cos the shell of the nappy would be ok still. Then you just replace the shell when they poop. Does that make sense?

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Yep!!

And I think I could get the material and make some inserts myself?? I'm gonna grab one tomorrow at the chemist and try it out. Might get the first one in Kanes size and see what I think of them....

[Gigi]

purps

two advocacy sites, to help you research, are:

nappycino
ozclothnappies

i'd put the links, but it's not allowed on this forum, so you'll need to google for them.


The cost thing?
Work out how much you'd spend on disposables, from nb to and including TT-ing - and that can easily be $3 - $4,000.

the difference is WHEN you spend the money

with cloth nappies, you spend the money UPFRONT, but overall, it's cheaper.
with disposables, you spend the money EACH WEEK, but overall, it's much dearer.

There are One Size Fits All type nappies. Not guaranteed to suit EVERY bubba, but they do suits lots of bubs.

I put my bub in prefolds and covers for nb/small stage. Then medium sized pockets (stuffed with the nb size prefolds) and ai2's (all in twos's).

You can get sizes in MCN that are around 8 - 16kg weight range. My bub didn't take long to get to 8kg, and at 22 months, has just hit 11 kg, so the middle size is the one she'll be in until TT-ing. i doubt we will buy the larger sizes at all.

whilst pregnant, to see the MCN in real life I:

- joined the Nappycino forum, and went to real life meetups in my city
- joined the ozclothnappies yahoo group and met local members IRL
- Reusuable Nappy Week (annual event held in October this year, go to modernclothnappies site and see what events are near you)
- Mother Parent Child annual expo (nappy stalls there)
- looked up the IRL shops in my city on the ozclothnappies database

Making the MCN or even just the inserts, is a good way to go, if you have a sewing machine. Unfortunately, most of the fabrics particular to MCN;s, are not sold at Spotlight, and you have to buy them online (places like NappiesCovered, BubbaEarth, SnapsAustralia, Fairy Fabrics). Once you see the price of the fabric per metre, you start to understand why the nappies are the prices they are!

Like with anything, you can have the BMW nappy stash or the mini minor nappy stash. But you do get what you pay for - the cheap pilchers at Big W will leak, break and cause you grief. The more expensive MCN covers will actually keep you and your baby dry, last hundreds of washes and be absolutely fine.

You can use cotton terry flats on your bub, but be prepared for very frequent changes. The MCN use fabrics like hemp and bamboo (mixed with cotton) for much more absorbent results. Some people use the cotton terry flats, but they boost them by placing a booster pad of three layers of bamboo fleece, inside the flat, with a microfleece liner (to keep baby feeling dry). So that way, you get teh flat to last longer (soak up more wee).

Peapods have their own website, i'm sure they are usually more like $18 each, so at $10, if i were you, i would buy one and try it out. You might be one of the people for whom they work fine - you never know if you don't try. Their bamboo inserts are excellent. Even if you don't end up liking the Peapod pocket nappy, you can always use the peapods bamboo insert, folded in three (like a pad) and placed inside a cover. that is another nappy combo.

go and have a read over at ozclothnappies, they have a FAQ section - excellent place to start reading about this new world

welcome and happy reading

[suse]

Out of curiosity, why don't you want to use anything that needs a cover? Is it because you perceive it to be more work?

Especially for exclusively breastfed bubs, a fitted nappy and cover combo is THE BEST for preventing explosive poo leaks (and wee leaks too when they get bigger and wee more) - more reliable than AIOs, AI2s and pockets because of the 'double protection'. They are also good for night/sleep nappies.

Also, fitteds are also a little more forgiving on the change table if the fit is not perfect or you're in a hurry or have a wriggly, screaming baby, if the leg on the nappy is not perfectly tightened it doesn't matter, because the cover will prevent leaks. I get the occasional fit related or 'user error' leak from most of my AIOs and pockets (mostly inserts bunching in BumGs), but have NEVER had a leak from a fitted nappy.

Personally I find fitteds to be less work than pockets, as they don't need to be stuffed. I love my one-size pockets (BumGs) but would probably try GreenKids next time, and Blueberries are a fantastic pocket even though they are sized. Not all pockets are one-size - the trade off is that onesize nappies are longer lasting, but sized nappies give a trimmer fit, especially when they are small. Depending on the size of your bub, smaller newborns often don't fit onesize pockets. Although I was using BumGs on E from newborn, he was 4.2kg though.

I started with some one-size pockets (BumG), and some fitteds (TotsBots Bamboozles). After Euan arrived and I started to know what worked for him better, I got a few 'show-off' nappies, mostly minky AI2s (d'lish, berry plush), some more fitteds (cute tooshies - they are fantastic), some dedicated night nappies and some day and night wool and fleece covers. So I have quite a versatile stash that can be boosted for naps or long trips, or is trim for under clothes, or is quick to dry, or is super absorbent for nights, or is breathable, etc, etc.

The best advice is don't put all of your eggs in one basket. And things change too, what works at first may not work later, a baby will change shape, weeing or pooing patterns will change. And what works for one baby, might not work for another.

[Pretty Butterfly]

Bub will definatly be breastfed, even if i have to pump again!!!

So might go take a look at the fitted with covers... is much more expensive, to buy fitted and then covers?? ARe they only available on line, or do chain stores sell them???

I'm a cloth dummy!!!

[Gigi]

Bub will definatly be breastfed, even if i have to pump again!!!

So might go take a look at the fitted with covers... is much more expensive, to buy fitted and then covers?? ARe they only available on line, or do chain stores sell them???

I'm a cloth dummy!!!

Prefolds/trifolds and covers (the ones with leg gussets) are great for nb runny explosive poos.

THere is tremendous variety in quality and price for MCN.

Chain stores generally do not sell them
i have given you a list of websites that do sell them in my previous post
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ml#post1432153

In my city, Your CHild's Nursery (baby shop) stocks Bambino Mio covers
Peapods seem to be widely distributed, i have seen them in baby boutiques.
I have seen Baby Beehinds available in real life eco-friendly shops.

best to go the brand website and click on STOCKISTS or RETAILERS, see where they stock them. Some brands have consultants who come to you, or your mother's group etc for a demo.

I just went and looked on the ozclothnappies site, for the IRL shops part, clicked on NSW and there is a baby beehinds demonstrator in Tamworth for example.

SOme webstores have a capped postage rate, which works out very cheap way to buy the nappies e.g it would cost me more in petrol to go to a real life nappy shop, than the postage would cost me. Nurture Nappies have a $5 cap, Baby Blossom has a $6 cap etc.