Do you wake them to go at night?

[Pandora]

DS is ocasionally dry at night, but not frequesntly, and same with his day sleeps even if they are only an hour or so.

Should I wake him at night before we go to bed (around11) to go to the toilet? He normally goes to bed around 7:30-8

[Lulu]

We did for awhile - 11pm seems to be the right time for it! After all the years of M fighting sleep it seems he now has trouble waking to pee. He tosses and turns about 11pm still, so I just call out to him to get up and wee - he is 5 now so I want him to be able to wake himself to do it

[Bathsheba]

Yep, this is my DH's job. At the moment he takes both our boys to the toilet at about 11pm just before he goes to bed. I usually go to bed before DH that's why it's his job.... plus he kind of likes it... he likes carrying them to the toilet with their faces tucked into his neck and then carrying them back. They both hardly even wake up... both go straight back to sleep afterwards. I'm so glad DH is diligent about this. Accidents are rare. 3yo DS still wears a pull up but often it's dry in the morning. We also did the night trip thing with our DD. We do it until they are able to wake themselves up and go in the night by themselves.... I think DD was about 6 or 7 when we stopped.

[lilima]

I was thinking of doing this. My good friend is a continence nurse and she said not to. Apparently as they are not properly awake it is basically the same thing as weeing in their sleep, and they won't learn to wake themselves up. Don't know how much truth is in that though.

[~Kim~]

Megie, I had heard that too.
We did try it for a bit, but Darcy's just not ready. I made no difference to her.

[Bathsheba]

Hmmm... I can see the logic behind that... but DH does talk to them a fair bit... they kinda nod in their sleep. DD, once we stopped taking her, never had any accidents. I don't know I'm pretty sure they would have been more distressed by wet beds in the middle of winter.... maybe in summer we might see if our 5yo can get the hang of going by himself... I might get DH to stop carrying him at least.

[Nai]

We haven't done that with DD1 at all and she rarely has night accidents. When she told us she wanted to wear undies to be we told her that she had to be dry 5 nights in a row and she could. The next 5 nights in a row she was dry so she got to wear undies. In the first couple of months she wet the bed about once a fortnight and would just come and wake me, I would change her and the bed and she would go back to sleep. She is now down to about one accident a month.

We make sure she goes to the toilet just before going to bed and she doesn't have a big drink before bed either. She has a drink with dinner and if she is still thirsty can have a small cup of milk.

[sweetpea678]

I never have done that with my kids, they were both night dry within six months of day toilet training.

[Pandora]

DS1 drinks a lot during the day. he is dry in day sleeps maybe 30% of the time, and maybe 1 night a week.

He has been daytime TT for a little over 12 months, its just sleep thats a problem.
There is a family history of late nighttime dryness on one side and so DH is a bit concerned.
He goes to the toilet after dinner and again before bed.

DH wants to stop him drinking anything after dinner, as this is what eventually seemed to work for him, but the continence website says not to do that either?

I think I might just give them a call

[lilima]

Have you thought about buying a few Conicare bedtime pads? They are on the independence Australia website.
Their advice is to put them in close fitting jocks under their PJ's. Then put them on the pad. If they wet, the pad will draw the wizz away from their skin. If they wake, change them and the pad, but if they stay asleep just leave them till morning. Again the idea is that they get used to the feeling and will learn to wake themselves. That is me just regurgitating what Conicare has written.
3.5 is not late for still wetting overnight BTW.

ETA - The pads are like a flat sheet like thing that you put on top of the fitted sheet.

[~Raven~]

I was thinking of doing this. My good friend is a continence nurse and she said not to. Apparently as they are not properly awake it is basically the same thing as weeing in their sleep, and they won't learn to wake themselves up. Don't know how much truth is in that though.

This is what I've read too. Will have to dig up the book to be sure of the theory behind it.

I can say though we tried it with both boys and it didn't make any difference. They would wet again before the morning

[Pandora]

Thanks
Yeh I know 3.5 isnt late but DH wont be told. So at least getting some advice will put him at ease somewhat.
I've also sent him links to the continence website so he can read it for himself

[Lulu]

. I might get DH to stop carrying him at least.

Yeah, dp kinda liked the snuggly bit too but when he isn't here I'm not prepared to carry a 5 yr old anywhere

Poor DS, he finds it very hard to wake - I mean you can tell he is trying to wake but it turns into a nightmare sometimes with him kicking and screaming so I either call to him (next door, paper thin walls) or gently steer him towards the loo.
Sometimes he still wets about 4am too bugger.

[Bathsheba]

So true Lulu... when DH was sick recently I struggled to carry my 5yo (I had to do the job)... so guided him in the end... maybe that is the way to go. It's going to be hard to convince DH though.

Another thing is that my boys have gotten into the habit of asking for water just before bed. I'm not going to refuse this... imagine being told "no" yourself... I'd hate it...and would toss and turn for ages.... especially when the central heating is on which dries out the air. So because they are allowed to drink water whenever they need it we'll stick with taking them to the toilet. They always do big wees too!

[Astrid]

If we realised that DD1 did not go to the toilet before bed, then we would sometimes get her up to go to the toilet. We found if we did not that she would often wet the bed. We don't tend to do it now, as she is pretty good at getting herself up. Just have to be careful when she calls out though, often we will yell out to her to go to the toilet as often her waking means she is about to come to our bed and we do not want an accident in it. If she is just yelling in her sleep and not actually awake then she will sometimes wee in the bed - oops.

[MantaRay]

We've never done it, but then both boys get through the night without a wee. On the odd occassion when one of them does need to wee (usually DS1), they get up and go to the toilet. I guess we're just lucky!

[aussienic]

We always did for a while.. Then we just used our judgement. ie how much they had to drink how abig a wee they did before bed kwim? We found our Ds3 would become a little unsettle. Just extra tossing and turning around 10pm and on those nights we would take him

[BekZ]

Thanks for posting this RayRay. We are still waiting for the night DD1 (3 yrs and 9 months) becomes slightly dry overnight. We have been blessed with a super sleeper but unfortunately she won't wake for a wee. In an effort to get her dry we have just purchased a set of bed overlays, I have a lady making a cloth pull up style night nappy and we are trying to cut her 7pm milk. We have tried cutting the milk out before but she then asks for water or she just gets a drink from the tap anyway. I don't feel right denying her fluids either.