Legalising Cannabis for medicinal purposes ??

[C~Q]

So what is stopping it do you think? Is it because Big Pharma can't monopolise it and cash in??

[briggsy's girl]

So what is stopping it do you think? Is it because Big Pharma can't monopolise it and cash in??

i'd say you have half your reason there

there is no way they can regulate and cash in on cannabis use so the big money players would be fighting to have it banned so they can continue to sell their expensive and often ineffective drugs.

[Phteven]

So what is stopping it do you think? Is it because Big Pharma can't monopolise it and cash in??

That and conservative Australia is too scared that if they legalise marijuana it will unleash a zombie apocalypse.

Also most of our politicians have got no balls so they won't do anything that will upset the conservative constituents.

[RockinSAHD]

That and conservative Australia is too scared that if they legalise marijuana it will unleash a zombie apocalypse.
Also most of our politicians have got no balls so they won't do anything that will upset the conservative constituents.

I think you've got it! Our health system is happy to hand out legalised heroin like its going out of fashion but say the word marijuana and people freak out! I think it's similar to hemp, a fantastic product that could help our society but it's a word with lots of associations so it's hard to market.

I'm not sure about triggering mental issues, that's tough, but triggering isn't the same as causing and oxycontin can cause some pretty nasty delusional episodes anyhow...

[AnyDream]

Who's handing out legalised heroin???

[Phteven]

Who's handing out legalised heroin???

I think they use other opiates - coedine, morphine, oxycodone, oxymorphone and the other ones with complicated names.

And yes, although it's totally OT hemp is a fantastic product.

[C~Q]

And yes, although it's totally OT hemp is a fantastic product.

It's all made from the same stuff though right?

Been wondering where you got to and how it was all going

. Thanks hun, going much better now! Things just weren't right being apart and although there's still likely to not be a happy ending it doesn't matter because i've come to terms with the fact that things couldn't end up any other way And i'll meet him in the next life...that much I know for sure x

[Phteven]

It's all made from the same stuff though right?

Kinds, sorta.... hemp is made from the fibre from the stem and TCH which is the active ingredient in medicine is found in the flower/head (and to a lesser extent in the leaf)and the oil which is used in beauty products is found in the seeds. It is possible to grow plants fro hemp seed and fibre with heads that produce almost zero resin.
It's really a very useful plant.

[Sopdet]

It's all made from the same stuff though right?

No, different strains of the same plant family.

Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. sativa is the variety grown for industrial use, while C. sativa subsp. indica generally has poor fibre quality and is primarily used for production of recreational and medicinal drugs.

[AnyDream]

CQ, I know there is a cannibis (I think) based mouth wash that is used by some patients to treat severe ulceration side effects, but I'm not sure whether there are any other derivative, pharmacologically-dosed products also available here. It might be worth enquiring about via his pal care team, in case there are any clinical trials going on, or other related info that might be helpful to DP about getting maximum mileage from his meds, prescribed or otherwise.

BTW - on the oxycontin side of things - often once a pain control point is reached, it's possible to reduce the meds gradually until a balance is struck between pain relief and being more 'with it'. Some of the BC ladies have said they achieve much better pain control with more functioning by rearranging the times and dosages.

You might find this interesting reading (sets out hte cannabis laws from state to state).

Been wondering where you got to and how it was all going .

[C~Q]

BTW - on the oxycontin side of things - often once a pain control point is reached, it's possible to reduce the meds gradually until a balance is struck between pain relief and being more 'with it'. Some of the BC ladies have said they achieve much better pain control with more functioning by rearranging the times and dosages.
Been wondering where you got to and how it was all going .

So do you mean reducing the amount he takes (he's actually not taking it anyway...decided against it, he has a big infection in the ear atm and the antibiotics he's taking are making him feel heaps better) or just rearranging when he takes it?

I think he needs a new team...they seem to have a very flippant attitude since he won't do anything they say lol and don't really seem to care what happens. It's kind of their way or the highway

Thanks for those links although how does this

The following states and territories have decriminalised minor cannabis offences. Any cannabis offence is still illegal in these areas

make sense??

[AnyDream]

It mean's it's not technically legal but you won't get a criminal record or a jail term if you're caught doing it within those parameters.

Re the oxycontin- a bit of both. It might mean taking less but taking it more often. Often they just prescribe a particular amount based on your body weight and their perception of the level of pain the patient has, but different people are more sensitive (ie have more receptors in their brains) than others. One lady I know chopped her dose in HALF and still got a tolerable pain coverage (ok so maybe not 100% pain free but close enough) but then she was able to function. The BC ladies also talk quite a lot about some kind of transdermal patch that works well for a lot of people with chronic pain.

It might help for DP to have a chat specifically about how he feels about the level of support he is getting. He is fully entitled to ask for more help managing his pain, regardless of other treatment choices he has made. Contacting a social worker to act as an advocate might be helpful at this stage, in opening the lines of communication with the team.

One thing I found really helpful when I was going through treatment was I insisted on making it personal. Every single encounter I had during that time, I made sure I asked their name. I told them something about myself and asked them questions about their day, their lives, whatever. I told them snippets of my story. This meant each and everyone of them was dealing with me as a person, not a patient. I deserve that and so I required that of the people around me. But I was also prepared to have that conversation too.