Legalising Cannabis for medicinal purposes ??

[C~Q]

If you don't wear your seatbelt you are doing something illegal. But you are not going to get a criminal record. I guess it's kind of more relaxed penalties?!

Where's Persephone and Divvy when you need a real explanation of the law?!

Gotcha gotcha!!!

And thanks Onyx, it's pretty incredible huh!!

Pandora - I totally agree with you! He's a big, stubborn guy who blocks people out if he doesn't like what they have to say. He infuriates me, I can't imagine how they feel. i just wish they would be a little open minded. I think he would feel better about listening to their advice if they listened to him a bit more yanno?

I like the idea of making everything personal...but I think thats a lot easier to do as a woman. He made things personal with the surgeon but not in a good way iykwim So a social worker...how would he go about that?

[C~Q]

Sorry this is getting a little OT...
BG thats another thing...they wanted to give him dexamphetamines (sp?) to combat the knock out effect of the Oxycontin! He was like ummm uppers and downers?? no thanks

[RockinSAHD]

There are plenty of options C-G and if its affecting your DP's quality of life then its pretty reasonable that he has a lot to say about what happens to him. I've seen the patches work well and thats one option.

Its going to be hard if he won't listen to the options, maybe some of the stranger things might actually work, I've taken antihistamines for years and thats an amphetamine and a depressant, they work great... for me...

Are there any South Aussies or Canberians here?? When I was younger (not sure about now) marijuana was decriminalised, meaning that if you got caught with it the police would confiscate and possibly fine, unless it was a large amount and you'd go to jail. Decriminalised, not really controlled so I guess its the worst of both worlds, just the society looking the other way.

[AnyDream]

Gotcha gotcha!!!

And thanks Onyx, it's pretty incredible huh!!

Pandora - I totally agree with you! He's a big, stubborn guy who blocks people out if he doesn't like what they have to say. He infuriates me, I can't imagine how they feel. i just wish they would be a little open minded. I think he would feel better about listening to their advice if they listened to him a bit more yanno?

I like the idea of making everything personal...but I think thats a lot easier to do as a woman. He made things personal with the surgeon but not in a good way iykwim So a social worker...how would he go about that?

There will be social workers attached to his treatment centre - on the oncology side of things as well as on the palliative care side of things. It's just a case of ringing the hospital and asking to be put through to soemone. if he prefers to see someone who is not on the staff, a ph call to the Cancer Council should let you know what other social work resources are available in his area.

[Sopdet]

It's all made from the same stuff though right?

No, different strains of the same plant family.

Cannabis sativa L. subsp. sativa var. sativa is the variety grown for industrial use, while C. sativa subsp. indica generally has poor fibre quality and is primarily used for production of recreational and medicinal drugs.

[C~Q]

Thanks heaps guys, i'll pass all the info on to him...I don't want to get to far OT!!!

So it seems most us feel they should legalise it hmmm...I wonder if there are people who think otherwise but don't want to post...I know there have been a few...

[Sopdet]

Having spent a lot of time in Amsterdam in my youth, I have seen the concept of it legalised.

Do I think it should be in Australia .... no, I've had too many friends and family member's lives ruined by usage.

Should there be an option for it to be medically administered, yes. I've seen it do good in my clients in the past, helped with pain and appetite.

[Footsteps]

Rach this one is actually something me and my DP have discussed so many times since I got ill. I used to smoke it before TTC to help with pain and nausea and to lessen the amount of morphine I was taking. I think it can have great medicinal uses. They should legalise it. xxx

[mummajj]

i disagree with it being legalised. i too have had things happen too close to home. i understand though that people do smoke for recreational purposes and carry on their lives just fine. but also i have never met a smoker that was intelligent (by that i mean someone that smokes more than just recreational). kinda like iv never met a tobacco smoker with nice breath.

[C~Q]

I have to disagree mummajj...DP smokes a fair bit. Around 5 vapours a day (don't know how much that is??) and he is very intelligent.

[*TripleJ*]

it has caused problems in my life from the fact that its illegal cant go into details
so yeah i wish it was legal for all too
the government dont want to make it legal coz they cant tax it like alcohol or ciggarettes because its a plant u can grow
mummajj the people i know that smoke it are intellegent and u wouldnt even know they smoke

[mummajj]

I have to disagree mummajj...DP smokes a fair bit. Around 5 vapours a day (don't know how much that is??) and he is very intelligent.

sorry CQ, i guess i havent come across a vapourer (is that the correct term). does it affect them differently? i honestly didnt mean to offend. its just my experience. in saying that, my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia (triggered from drug use in his teens). he has since gone on to complete several science degrees!!

[Emma09]

I also have to disagree with mumma.
DH is a former bong addict and he is quite intelligent.
On my phone so can't go into much detail- but DH's family is mostly all addicted to marijuana.
Most function normally- hold down a job, pay bills, own homes....
But I feel that it severely impairs judgement. DH's family would have no issue in smoking bongs in front of my DD, which I find disgusting.

I'll be interested to hear other people's opinions.


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[C~Q]

sorry CQ, i guess i havent come across a vapourer (is that the correct term). does it affect them differently? i honestly didnt mean to offend. its just my experience. in saying that, my brother was diagnosed with schizophrenia (triggered from drug use in his teens). he has since gone on to complete several science degrees!!

I don't think it does...I'm pretty sure it's just a quick way to get the effects without smoking it. It's kind of the "healthy" way to get it in ya body So no smoke, no nicotine...just buzzy goodness!

[Mum2Romone]

The patches (Norspan ) are really good. My Dh was on Oxycontin 50mg and 30mg endone a day and it knocked him around too.. The dr suggested Norspan patches and he only had to wear two and change them weekly, now his pain is under control. (He has chronic severe pancreatitis)

Dh actually had more bad episodes on the oxycontin than I have seen from his use of any other drugs , ever, he became delusional even, he would think peole were in the room that werent, probably another drug that will soon be taken off the market like Stilnox was.....

I recommend the patches 100%, ask him to ask his dr about them....

Legalising Marijuana, well i dont think the Aus government would be able to keep up with the demand
In America when they legalised it for medicinal purposes the price of hemp etc actually went down so much , i dont think the government really benefited that much so the $$ incentive wouldnt be there for australia.

Marijuana does not CAUSE mental health issues it simply makes them more obvious and that it a whole explanantion for another time...

Drug Psychosis is caused by the brains inability to process the effects of the drug. This is more common with opiates than any other type of drug...or a mixture of drugs (honestly its more common with prescription drugs too)

to anyone affected by a family/friends drug use

Also interesting information :

Studies in Jamacia (sp?) on women smoking marijuana during pregnancy and through breastfeeding for 2 years also show , the women that smoked to have more intelligent babies, meeting milestones first, with less medical problems, deformities etc than the group that didnt smoke. The babies also learnt to walk, talk, count etc first.... there is some alarming evidence in recent years supporting maijuana for way more than pain relief options.... the study also showed the babies cried less, were comforted easier etc... worth reading... just google it (it think the study was completed in 2008)

Legalised heroin is methadone i- but it is a synthetic form of the drug with "less withdrawals" supposedly making it easier to function and not having the "high" (or low) that heroin has...

Also has anyone watchedd the movie "Super High Me "?

hmmmm good topic I thought voting GREENS was for marijuana

[Footsteps]

a vapouriser is the purest way of using it. theres no tobacco etc x

[Mum2Romone]

Also in Canberra you can have two plants per person... or 1.5g on you in public without being charged, but over that its a criminal offence ,Hmm Why just canberra? I guess the politicians want it all to themselves

[C~Q]

Mum2R thank you that was a great post...i'll get him to check out the patches