thread: Using better nutrition to help with depression & mental health - need advice! please?

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Oct 2007
    Brissy
    2,208

    I'm sorry I can't answer your questions, but had some thoughts to contribute...

    Sorry if this is a bit jumbled! Lately I've been watching documentaries etc on wellness - mainly stuff put out by Food Matters (you can google) and one thing that struck me was when they were talking about natural medicines and "vitamin therapies." They were saying how people get so wary of using vitamins and minerals as treatment, but don't think twice about trying out manufactured drugs!
    I thought it was an interesting point that we trust chemicals and synthetic materials but not things that occur naturally iykwim?

    Anyway, one particular doco talked about B vitamins and Omega 3's being particularly beneficial for depression etc - so I think its worth you investigating these things!

    I hope you find something that works for you, all the best.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Dec 2007
    Melbourne
    294

    Hi! I am seeing a clinical psychologist, and have recovered from (quite bad) depression and PND without ADs.

    I can list for you the things I have been told to do, and also some extra things I figured out for myself.

    Told to do

    Proper nutrition:

    Always eat breakfast, if possible include protein
    Generally, make sure you are getting enough protein
    Eat 5 meals a day, breakfast, morning tea, lunch, afternoon tea, dinner (supper if you need it)
    Eat dinner earlier in the evening and have supper later if you need
    Avoid sugar (blood sugar levels all over the place can affect moods)
    Drink at least 2 litres of water a day.

    Omega 3 oils 3 times a day helps with mood..

    These were general nutrition tips given to me by my psych.

    Exercise:

    Do something at least 3 times a week, even if it is only walking. Getting the blood pumping helps mood, endorphins etc.

    Rest:

    If you feel tired, rest. Nap if you need to but try not to do it too late in the day so it affects your sleep patterns.

    Cognitive:

    Practice positive thought about yourself: every day I write 5 things I have done well, or that are positive generally.

    This is general stuff from me

    I find sugar is addictive, and i need to go cold turkey on it. After I haven't had it for a few days it is fine (until I feel I have to comfort eat, but that's another story).

    You say you feel overwhelmed by preparing food, and I do some days too. Even my psych didn't understand this, so it's nice that you do too

    Good snacks that don't require any preparation I find are...

    (These might sound a bit gross to others, but I think at least it's better than me eating chocolate)

    A handful of nuts
    Avocado and tomato on toast
    Canned salmon on toast with avocado
    Or just salmon out of the can if i feel really bad
    Fruit, especially filling ones like banana
    V8 juice - good for you no preparation
    Yoghurt (especially Jalna)
    A protein shake

    Hopefully this has given you some ideas.

    Recently I've started on not so much a "diet" but a different way of eating. Basically it involves leaving out a few food groups for a few days and then adding them back in later in smaller amounts. The good thing is that you can eat as much as you want of all the other stuff. I've probably done a bad job of explaining that, but anyway! If you'd like to know more about it PM me and I can tell you.

    Basically I have a lot more energy and also hunger and food cravings are more stable if that makes sense? I did also lose weight with it, if you're interested in that.

    Anyway, I hope this has helped a bit. If I remember any of the other stuff I've been told to do I'll post back

    I hope you have found some good help that's working for you.

    Cheers,
    Tish

  3. #3
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    Hi Conundrum,

    I have a great book from my study days called Nutritional Medicine by Dr Stephen Davies and Dr Alan Stewart. I refer to it often, it has all the recommended intakes and discussed interactions of same.

    I could answer all your qu's but that would require an awful lot of typing and my brain has melted.

    xoxoxoox

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Nov 2008
    Cairns FNQ
    428

    First up I am not a medical professional or even an expert. What I share is simply what I have learnt from my own many years as a Mental Health consumer.

    I am on high levels on anti-depressant medication (effexor). I have just started with a new psychiatrist, who believes my depression is under treated, or i may have bipolar, and wants to start me on a mood stabiliser, sodium valproate
    First up I suggest you do some serious reading in to Efexor or Efexor XR a few years ago they under went a drug recall because of the side effects. Also if it is a new med for you you will not see an improvement for around 6-8weeks as Efexor has one of the longest build up times out there. There are many newer drugs that are being used with success.

    As far as Sodium Valproate goes it will only help if there is a mood disorder, if not it is a nothing. The downside is that for the first weeks when it is building up the side effects can be massive. I lost my hair!!! Literally! I would suggest making sure that there is a proper mood disorder before going down that road. Remember clinical depression can have mood swings. That doesn't make it Bipolar.

    As far as the natural stuff goes, I do see a homeopath for managing the side effects of my medications. She is accredited by the national body and works in tandum with all the other people who seem to have a stake in my mental status!! I would suggest contacting the state organisation of homeopaths to see who they can recommend.

    I know this is probably too little too late but I hope it can be of some help.

    Amy xoxo