Shoot, my SIL is exchanging here city select. She keeps comparing it to my city elite and says my pram is heaps bigger (by that she means the seat). She is now exchanging it for the elite. She said that when my DS went into it for trial, he looked all squashed up and his feet kept hitting the metal bar at the bottom and the bit where the baby sits is too soft. Oh well, I told her to get what she really wants. I think it was me who persuaded her to buy it..