I've got three "two people" prams. I knew I would need a double of some sort given DD#1's age, and at almost 18 months I still don't think DD#1 would be very comfortable in a conventional toddler seat. I originally bought the Valco side by side because DD#1 was only 12 months when #2 was born - still very much a baby and I wanted good, comfortable pram seats for both girls and a good pram for long walks for my benefit. Weighing in at just under 20kgs and not exactly the most compact thing when folded I bought a Babylove tandem (one in front of the other) for my "shopping/car" pram. I hated it because the front seat (for your toddler) always seemed to be uncomfortable for Iz - she slid forward and never really seemed totally happy in there. So, Pram No. 3 is a Phil & Teds, which is now my shopping/car pram. Folds up small and is very manoueverable. I'm still in two minds about it - I think it is the very best option for getting around the shops but I agree with some of what Belle said. I also find it very unstable going up/down stairs with two babies in there - seems very, very easy to tip. So, if you are only getting one pram I would go the side by side. As big as they are, IMO they are the best bet for safety and comfort.
If you're interested, I've been "getting around" to selling the Babylove tandem. You're welcome to give it a try and see what you think of it - surely it has to suit some kids?? If it suited your DS, it would be a cheap shopping/car pram for you.
I have a Phil & Teds Sports, and love it. Nina is 14.8kg & Emily is about 8kg and I have no problems getting them around in it. I now have Nina sitting in the front, Emily in the back, and we've been doing it that way for about a month or so. Before that, Nina would sit in the toddler seat on top, and Emily on the bottom laying down.
I find that it folds down very compact, and it's lightweight.
A friend of mine has another pram very similar to the P&T (sorry, can't remember the name), and it's awful. It weighs about 19kg, isn't very compact, and the turning circle is shocking.
A P&T is definitely worth the money. And you'll always get your money back when/if you sell it.
Thanks guys.. has given me lots to think about.
Lulu - perhaps we can arrange a meet up at your place? would love to have a lookie at your prams. PM me if you are interested.
We have the P&T's too and we love it. It doesn't get used much now as they are pretty good walkers, but we had no problems using it with the two boys (19 months apart). But I did find my sling was my most useful possession in the early days with both boys. They sleep so easily in the sling and it's much easier to get around without a pram. When DS2 was born, we still needed the pram for DS1, but I had DS2 in the sling more often than the pram. We used the toddler seat anyway, so that we could have two in the pram, and if only one was in there there was plenty of room for bags as well.
If I knew about the abc adventure buggy when buying my double pram, it would have won hands down. As someone has already said there is a reclining seat that is placed on top of the handle bar, that would be perfect for your newborn. And your toddler can sit comfortably in the front seat, without a seat blocking her view. It's light, 10kg I think and folds very compactly. Oh and the top seat can hold 25kg and the main seat up to 45kg I think, so would last you right through.
Im doing this exercise atm myself as my two boys will be 17 months apart.
I like the ABC buggy, they do two types of toddler seats, one that reclines and the other that doesn't. Im tending towards the reclining version. They also do a side by side double which looks good. Its the old everest pram from memory.
We are also partial to the new babyjogger city mini. It's so small for a twin pram and is easy as to fold up and has the best sun shade I have ever seen on a pram. As my eldest has an eye condition this is a huge positive for us.
Of course, the mountain buggy urban elite is gorgeous just not sure I want to spend that type of money in case my eldest refuses the pram once he is walking..... ??
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