Thanks melbel, I didn't see your other post when I posted before. It is sooo confusing! I want to rear face as long as possible, I think DS is just over 12kg now, but we haven't turned him as length wise it still seems ok, as in his head isn't at or above the seat at the moment. I guess that could be the wrong thing to do but I read that fit is as important as weight too. We want to import a seat but not sure on what happens with insurance. Going on a previous post insurance could be void if you do Shouldn't be this bloody hard !