TTC - Pos or Neg OPK? Please help :(

[kellie89]

Hi guys,

I'm new to this so bear with me

DH and I are currently TTC, we have two healthy children, we used Met to concieve them but now after a few months back on Met and no O I've been precribed Clomid.
I usually have a 28 days cycle (when actually ovulating)- First day of AF was 27/8 (CD1) and I took Clomid from CD3-CD8.
On CD8 I had brown spotting then again on 10 and 11.
Cervix is mid-high, relatively soft and slightly open

I've done OPK's as my Dr suggested but I'm really not sure as to what a 'positive' result is.
Anyway, theres a pic of OPK's here from CD10 TO CD12 (today).
Do any of these look positive? I am new to this and SOOOO confused

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/152/14550167.jpg/

[LionsandBears]

Cd 11-12 look positive to me. Good luck

[juniper76]

Yes, the CD11 and CD12 sticks could be positive. What you're looking for is a test line that is as dark or darker than the control line. The test line on the CD10 test is lighter, so definitely negative.

However, there's two potential problems with the CD11 and CD12 sticks:

1. Some brands of OPK are positive if even some of the test line is darker (like yours are), but some brands require the entire test line to be darker (which yours are not, since there appears to be a dark edge and then a lighter part next to that when I look at them). The only way to know which category your brand falls into is to ask the manufacturer (or the supplier). I count mine as positive when I have a dark edge, but they are a different brand and I always confirm the positive with a digital OPK.

2. It's possible to get false positive OPKs in the 3-4 days after finishing the clomid tablets. I would would be wary of both the CD11 and CD12 ones on that basis. However, there is also a chance that you could O that soon after the clomid tablets, so you can't rule them out either. Annoying and confusing and frustrating, but that's my understanding of the situation.

For now, I'd assume they're positive and make sure you BD to try to catch the egg, but I'd also keep using the opks (and keep BDing) in case you actually O later in the cycle. The norm is to O 5-10 days after the last tablet, but there are some who O earlier and some who O later (and some who don't O at all because they need a higher dose).

Are you charting temps as well so you can confirm O after it happens? If you're temping, you can stop the opks after you get the sustained thermal shift to indicate O has happened.

[kellie89]

Yes, the CD11 and CD12 sticks could be positive. What you're looking for is a test line that is as dark or darker than the control line. The test line on the CD10 test is lighter, so definitely negative.

However, there's two potential problems with the CD11 and CD12 sticks:

1. Some brands of OPK are positive if even some of the test line is darker (like yours are), but some brands require the entire test line to be darker (which yours are not, since there appears to be a dark edge and then a lighter part next to that when I look at them). The only way to know which category your brand falls into is to ask the manufacturer (or the supplier). I count mine as positive when I have a dark edge, but they are a different brand and I always confirm the positive with a digital OPK.

2. It's possible to get false positive OPKs in the 3-4 days after finishing the clomid tablets. I would would be wary of both the CD11 and CD12 ones on that basis. However, there is also a chance that you could O that soon after the clomid tablets, so you can't rule them out either. Annoying and confusing and frustrating, but that's my understanding of the situation.

For now, I'd assume they're positive and make sure you BD to try to catch the egg, but I'd also keep using the opks (and keep BDing) in case you actually O later in the cycle. The norm is to O 5-10 days after the last tablet, but there are some who O earlier and some who O later (and some who don't O at all because they need a higher dose).

Are you charting temps as well so you can confirm O after it happens? If you're temping, you can stop the opks after you get the sustained thermal shift to indicate O has happened.

Well, we BD'd last night and the night before, will try again tonight.
I am getting absolute negs now - Like they were on CD10, but my CP is definitely high, soft and open, I'm not sure how 'wet' is really wet though :s
I had what I thought was O pain yesterday, but it was in both sides so I'm not sure.
I'm not charting temps atm, I did when trying for our last baby but I can't find my basal thermo so I've had to order another and am now waiting on it to arrive. Will be charting if this cycle is neg.

[Mummy&Daddy2Be]

CD 11 & 12 do look positive, but as juniper76 said, different brands have different meaning for positives

get BD'ing. have you had EWCM?

[kellie89]

These were First Response OPK's.
No EWCM, which worried me, but I've read Clomid can affect CM.
I have had a lot of clear very thin, watery CM though.
Tests are now definitely negative, like CD10 or lighter.

I had brown spotting on CD 8, 10 & 11. I haven't had brown spotting during O ever before, would that be just because of the Clomid? Or is it a good sign of O'ing?

[Mummy&Daddy2Be]

hmm, i have no advice on clomid! so can't help you with the brown spotting . but i would probably say you have O'd, if the tests are looking lighter than your CD 10 test. i would BD tonight, and tomorrow

[nothing2lose]

CD 11 & 12 do look positive, but as juniper76 said, different brands have different meaning for positives

get BD'ing. have you had EWCM?

EWCM is often not present while taking clomid

[kellie89]

No ultrasounds yet, my OB said he won't do them until I've done three rounds of Clomid.
I do have to have bloods done on CD21, then I have an appointment booked for the 3mths mark so if we've had no luck by then we'll start U/S etc.
This is my first Clomid cycle, I was able to get away with just Met last time. This time I'm doing the Clomid/Met combo.
I did have what I thought was O pain yesterday, but usually I only get it on one side and yesterday it was really painful in both sides.

[Joeve]

I took progynova while on clomid which I think was to help with cm. I did one cycle unmonitored as well.

[kellie89]

Thanks, Ladies

I'm not sure what progynova is but I'll ask my GP about it.
I've heard that preseed can help? Someone told me it's available through Amazon. Amazon does ship to Australia but I'll see if I can find anywhere in Aus so with any luck, I'll have it and my basal thermo delivered before next cycle if I'm out on this cycle.

I'm hoping Murphy's Law will step in and that now I've purchased another BBT and am looking at the preseed, I won't need it lol.

Dunno about you ladies but I'm on about 3DPO now...
Cervix has gone back to a mid position and is kinda hard but still slightly open, started getting some weird milky kind of discharge today but no odour or anything but it's odd.
Also, I don't know if it's from BD'ing so often (lol!) but my lower abdomen almost feels bruised And I have what feels like O pains back and man, do they hurt.
Right now, I'm not even THINKING that they might be pregnancy symptoms, I refuse to because I know that they are probably things that happen to everyone, like being crazy tired lol.

Still, fingers crossed... CD21 bloods on Monday for the clomid, not looking forward to it