Those pink ebay HPT's urgent advice?

**kerbear** · May 15th, 2013, 05:07 PM

Hugs mildez so sorry you are going through this xo

**LysnDan** · May 16th, 2013, 11:05 AM

How did your appointment go mildez? Hugs xx

**Mildez** · May 16th, 2013, 01:51 PM

Crap. My levels rose to 44 in 49hours. I know the levels are still rising as my pregnancy test lines are slowly getting darker and what is even worse is the Gynea said he would give me methotrexate which has to be done through the hospital but the hospital has refused until my levels are several hundred at the very minimum and there is nothing I can do about it. He also told me that this is a blessing as it shows my remaining tube is damaged and to cut my losses and forget about having more children.

**TickToc** · May 16th, 2013, 02:19 PM

He also told me that this is a blessing as it shows my remaining tube is damaged and to cut my losses and forget about having more children.

WHAT?!?!! How could he say that to you? I think I would bop someone over the head if they ever spoke to me so heartlessly. I am so sorry mildez

**kerbear** · May 16th, 2013, 03:29 PM

Mildez I am so sorry for what doc and hospital have said hug hug

**LionsandBears** · May 16th, 2013, 03:44 PM

Surely, that's negligence. This is your life on the line! I'd be asking to talk to a consultant and insisting on treatment now. Any chance of going private?

As for the insensitive comment, he needs a smack upside the head. I so sorry you're going through this.

**juniper76** · May 16th, 2013, 03:50 PM

OMG! I can't believe he said that!

I'm so sorry they're refusing the shot. Do you have any other avenues you can pursue. Seems crazy that they should put you at risk like this.

**Mildez** · May 16th, 2013, 04:26 PM

Surely, that's negligence. This is your life on the line! I'd be asking to talk to a consultant and insisting on treatment now. Any chance of going private?

As for the insensitive comment, he needs a smack upside the head. I so sorry you're going through this.

This was private through a private clinic. I got an urgent appointment yesterday for today that my GP got for me. He (Visiting consultant from RPA as my Gynea is away for 2months) originally said given my history he would be happy to give it now but when he called the hospital (the only place you can have methotrexate administered) the hospital on call Gynea said to refer me to the EPAS clinic and I will have 2nd weekly tests until my levels are several hundred which is the very earliest they will administer methotrexate. That's the hospital policy and they can not do anything about it basically. I heard the phone call to the hospital O&G and heard the other Dr say that there not doing me any favours giving it to me now anyway as clearly my tube has a problem and its not going to give me a successful pregnancy in the future anyway. Personally I think that's my choice to make and honestly with no tubes there is no chance. Atleast with a tube even damaged successful pregnancies have resulted but maybe Im not going to be given that chance. He also said as I have 3 children to basically have my tube removed and forget about it. Even IVF he said he wouldn't recommend as I have 3 children.

**LysnDan** · May 16th, 2013, 05:04 PM

I am sorry you have had to endure such insensitive comments hun. It's so not fair. thinking of you. Wishing it was more positive news for you instead of this. (hugs)

**Mildez** · May 16th, 2013, 05:19 PM

I can see his point when he is comparing me to many others who haven't been fortune like me to have a larger then average family and despite many pregnancies I still have 3 very healthy happy children but on the other hand if my DH and I want more children and are paying for a service (IVF) provided we fit their criteria which we would who is it to decide we shouldn't try for another through IVF because we already have 3. If we didn't have any together but I had 3 for example I am sure he would see that as a reasonable request but not because we have children together. I don't have to worry about that now anyway and am so fortunate age is currently on my side so I have a few years left before making that decision anyway.

**Dansta** · May 16th, 2013, 05:22 PM

*hugs*
would rocking up to A& E with constant pain in the overay and demanding an u/s to see as you fear an eptopic do anything? surely they'd be able to see *something* and then act?

:hugs: im sorry you're going though this Mildez x

**Mildez** · May 16th, 2013, 05:28 PM

Dansta I would happily do that if I thought it would help but the hospital would probably seize the opportunity to remove more then just my tube and then by the time it grew big enough to see on ultrasound it would probably turn up somewhere else. I don't want to wait until my HCG is high enough to detect where the pregnancy is. He said it could be in the remaining stump of my old tube or else floating anywhere in my abdomen basically as the tube is pinned down and may not have even swept the embie into the tube to start with. They said a pregnancy can only be detected with a HCG around or above 1500 so with a level of 44 yesterday I don't think they will be finding anything anytime soon.

**LysnDan** · May 16th, 2013, 05:30 PM

*hugs*
would rocking up to A& E with constant pain in the overay and demanding an u/s to see as you fear an eptopic do anything? surely they'd be able to see *something* and then act?

:hugs: im sorry you're going though this Mildez x

Unfortunately with hcg that low, they wouldn't see anything :-(

They didn't see my ectopic until my hcg reached 2530... And they couldn't confirm it was in my right tube until the hcg rose to 3260 (48hrs later)

Hun, I really hope they do something soon to help. I hate it how they blame policies and hospital formalities into play. It's like they got to cover their butts. :-( they seem to want to do that without caring about the patient. :-(

**LionsandBears** · May 16th, 2013, 08:29 PM

I have no idea if this option is feasible with a possible ectopic, but given your certainty that this is not a viable pregnancy, is RU486 a possibility? It's something I'd ask a doctor as I dont know what happens with it when a pregnancy is not in the uterus or whether any further damage to the tube could result.

i do know that general advice for an ectopic in a damaged tube is to remove the tube, in case necrosis sets in and causes other damage to the body. With my ectopic at 5 weeks, there was already necrosis.

**Rainbow_Mumma** · May 16th, 2013, 08:43 PM

wow I am so sorry you are having to go through this and put up with such insensitivity. I have everything crossed for you

**Reet** · May 16th, 2013, 11:29 PM

Omg mildez, I don't know what else to say except I'm so sorry

I wish things were so different for u right now... Thinking of u xxx

**Ladylove** · May 17th, 2013, 02:03 AM

Mildez what a creep of a doctor, even if he thought you were more fortunate than some doesn't mean he should make an opinionated call on it like that. I'd be making an official complaint.

Aside from that, I hope you're doing ok. What an ordeal.

**Mildez** · May 17th, 2013, 08:03 AM

I have no idea if this option is feasible with a possible ectopic, but given your certainty that this is not a viable pregnancy, is RU486 a possibility? It's something I'd ask a doctor as I dont know what happens with it when a pregnancy is not in the uterus or whether any further damage to the tube could result.

i do know that general advice for an ectopic in a damaged tube is to remove the tube, in case necrosis sets in and causes other damage to the body. With my ectopic at 5 weeks, there was already necrosis.

I would assume RU486 wouldn't be an option. Ive certainly never seen it used in an ectopic pregnancy. I can only hope the pregnancy isn't in my tube. The consultant said it could very well be in the abdomen as when I had it checked years ago it was very much opened it was its ability to move which would cause a problem. So he thought there was a good chance it didn't even make it into the tube to start with. Or maybe in the other side which is also quiet possible. Either way I don't see the sense in waiting to find out.