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thread: Parenting After Loss or Miscarriage November 2010

  1. #127
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    Jan 2006
    Qingdao, China
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    KELLY _ I'm sure it's just a bad 24 hours & little Campbell will settle again soon! I'm sure of it. I'm so glad you are getting some rest in. Your mum sounds fantastic!

  2. #128
    BellyBelly Member

    Apr 2007
    Hobart
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    Kelly - my advice to new mums (including myself lol) is to absolutely write off the first year... if you get decent sleep it's a bonus, but expect none.... low expectations are much easier to live with..... just rest/shut your eyes when you can.... I highly recommend an eye pillow, in case you get a spare 10 mins in the day to literally just shut your eyes.... I'm a great advocate of the power nap, it'll save you sanity if you can pull it off. Hang in there babe, Campbell will likely be more wakeful for some time now.... by 3 months he will start sleeping longer and be a tiny bit more predictable. Hugs babe, sleep deprivation is hard, but goes hand in hand with little kids.... xoxoxo

    Well girls, got a massage booked, lunch date with girlfriend (child free), a movie, and thinking about a reflexology for next week :-) can't wait for a break! Love to all, Lee xo

  3. #129
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    Jan 2008
    Pittsburgh, PA
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    oh my, you ladies have been busy. I get just enough time to read all of the posts and then a little one needs something!

    First day home alone went pretty well. Brexton is still sleeping a lot. He has 2 or 3 really awake periods during the day but they only last a couple of hours. So far he is pretty relaxed and not as difficult as Grayson was. I know that can change very fast!

    BFing didn't happen for me again. I was very sick after the c-section so they gave Brexton a bunch of bottles. He had a hard time latching on when I felt better. Of course that meant that I had painful cracks. My supply never came in very well either due to starting late. I feel like a failure because I gave up so easily

    going to go close my eyes for a few minutes while the boys are quiet!

  4. #130
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    Nov 2005
    LA LA Land
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    Kel,
    Yep, it can come as a bit of a shock when the second one arrives - it's amazing how quickly we forget. I always found the first 3 weeks the worst. Getting to know your baby, getting into routines etc. But he will start sleeping again and so will you. Just hang in there. I know that is easier said than done! And don't forget, if it does get bad, there are settling routines that can be tried even at this early age (and they do work with patience - patience! how can I have patience with a newborn!!!!! ha, ha!).
    Thinking of you and wishing you well.

    Debbie

  5. #131
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    Jan 2006
    Qingdao, China
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    Ooooh Lee I'm loving your style!!!!!!!!!!!! You deserve it darl! Enjoy!

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    Jan 2006
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    NOT a happy camper here today.............. After 4 mornings of running, I arrive at weigh in day................. NO LOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Zip, zilch, nil, nufink! Completely the same weight as last week. Grrrrrr!

  7. #133
    BellyBelly Member

    Apr 2007
    Hobart
    416

    Jayne, Jayne, Jayne.... I'm not at all surprised, you are developing muscle my dear, muscle is heavier than fat. Don't loose heart as in time the scales will go back, and regardless of the stupid scales, what you are doing is good for your body (although it would not be good for mine for cripes sake!) - just keep going..... thats an order! Lee xoxoxo

  8. #134
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    Jan 2006
    Qingdao, China
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    Thanls Lee, it just sucks arse!!!!! Im so annoyed - I have busted my backside all week & I wanted results. I needed to see it, KWIM? You have seen me, nothing athletic bout my frame but it felt so good each morning pushing the limits & I just expected a loss. Anyway I got myself a pair of ankle boots to make myself feel better. Plus I had a caramel macchiato & also a wholemeal crossiant with turkey & cranberry sauce to make myself feel even better. bahahha. We are going to a Thanksgiving Dinner at Le Meridien tonight. I'm so looking forward to it! Roast Turkey - YES PLEASE!!!!

  9. #135
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    Sep 2006
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    Jayne that would suck big time not seeing a change in the numbers on the scales but as Lee said you'd be making muscle now so it's still all ok..If only I had your motivation to get my butt moving..maybe in the new year but I won't hold my breath lol.
    How's everything with all 4 of you?

    Lee Not long to go now til your DH is home. Are you all getting excited?

    Spring I hope you're ok..How are your boys? I can't believe Mr B is almost 1 too..Its crazy how fast that time has gone..

    Willow How are you doing babe? How's that problem boobie coming along? Has it healed or is it still sore? How's everything with the moving plans?

    Freya I saw your FB comment yesterday and OMG I'm jealous..I soooooo wish I was where you are right this minute..Make sure you pop in when you get back to tell us how it was

    Bun Congrats on selling your house hun..When do you move back to Perth? How are your little ones doing?

    Michelle, Bek, Lisa and Deb.. I've been thinking of all of you and just wanted to tell you so

    I've also been thinking of someone who popped in here a while ago Sequoia(sp) and have been wondering about how she's doing and if she's had her little bub yet? Does anyone know or talk to her on FB?

    As for me I'm "FINE" (one for Michelle) :P I ended up telling my mum and my sister that I was having my op last week and can you believe it that neither of them have bothered to call or text to see if I'm ok. I'm a bit pi**ed with both of them atm over it but DH asked me last night if it really does surprise me and when I think about it my answer sadly is "no it doesn't" I guess I don't rank up as being important enough to give a c**p about in their lives..Oh well atleast I have some wonderful friends and a gorgeous son and DH who care and I guess that's more important to me.
    I'm sorry for the vent but I guess I'm feeling a bit on the fragile atm

    I really do hope you're all having a good weekend. Sage & I have been to a 3rd Birthday and a 1st Birthday party today so he's all tuckered out and asleep now thank goodness. I just hope he wakes up in a decent mood and then we'll mow the lawn when it cools down a bit and I'm hoping to talk DH into going to the Entrance tomorrow to see the pelicans being fed..I think Sage would love to see that and its something that we haven't done yet as a family..we used to go there often with my grand parents when I was little so it's something that I want to take Sage to see.

  10. #136
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    Aug 2009
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    Hiya - Just wanted to pop in and introduce myself and join in. Some of you know me or of me already, and some we'll be starting out new. I am Dory. Mum to newborn Hannah (9 weeks old) and 3 children who died after birth but too early in the pregnancies to survive and also a m/c. Looking forward to getting to know you.

    Jayne - I saw your ticker - you are amazing.... you are bringing sexy back, even if the journey is long and at times disheartening. Go girl.

    Mako - hope you're ok with your op. Sorry family just sucks sometimes..... that's in part why I joined today. Just not sure where else to turn for some support at the mo. More on that later.

    Laney - hello to you and Grayson and Brexton... hope you're going well solo. Actually as much as I look forward to the weekends when DH is home, I also love Mondays when he goes back to work and we have some girl time here at home.

    Here's my heartache today.... I recently sent out combined birth announcement thankyou cards for Hannah. One of the paragraphs was - "Our much anticipated and much adored baby girl, carried to us on the wings of angels". It was my way of recognising and paying tribute to Amelia, Nicholas and Sophie, but trying to do it in a way that didn't take away from the moment for Hannah. If I do say so myself, I thought it was just right, and balanced the need to honour my angels with the desire to celebrate Hannah's arrival.

    A person who received hers yesterday said to me over the telephone today " Oh, carried to us on the wings of angels huh.... I am worried about that, what kind of religious bent is that? Who wrote that?" All said in a disparaging tone of voice and with the implication that my DH wrote it.

    In the instant that she said that I wanted to yell in response that it was referring to Amelia, Nicholas and Sophie, but surely no one could be so obtuse as to miss the reference, especially when they knew my babies before Hannah had died? In that instant I wanted to yell at the person for being so damn hurtful In that instant I wanted to hang up the phone the cry, In that instant I did none of those things, and I just don't know why.

    So now as the tears roll down my cheeks, I question why I didn't do any of those things and wonder if I am just too weak to stand up for myself and my children, and then I wonder why I can't stand up for my children, my children who can't do it themselves. Does it mean that I don't love them enough? But then I think, perhaps I just rose above such hurtful comments and the small mind who felt the need to say such inexplicable things. Perhaps I am stronger than I think. I just don't know, all I know is it hurts, it hurts more than I care for it to right now. But I still ponder am I reed that gets pushed around by the stream of life or am I an oak standing tall and resolute?

    Grief my old companion, is never far away and with grief comes so much self doubt. Today
    my companion exacts a heavy toll and not one that I think I can resolve.

    Any ideas? This person is a relative and has been really close to me all my life. Lately she has just been out of control, even her own kids say that she just doesn't think before she shoots off her mouth. But sheez.

  11. #137
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    Jan 2006
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    OH Dory, WELCOME!!! I have 'seen' you around BB. I'm so glad you are joining us in here!!!

    Personally, I think that you wrote on Hannah's thank you cards was absolutely beautiful & wonderfully constructed. I don't think a poet could have done any better if they tried. If you could call the person who rang you to talk about your verse, I don't think you could call them a friend. If they knew you, even in the slightest, they would have known EXACTLY where the reference was being made to. She SHOULD have had the brains to piece it together & the fact that she called you about it really raises questions about intelligence to me. I'm sorry if that sounds really nasty, but it just irks me so much when people can be so stupid!

    Rise above it babe, you KNOW you are much better than her to get down on her level & fight it out with her. Your babies are your entire world & you don't need to justify them to ANYBODY! They are forever treasured in your heart & if those close to you can't see it, then maybe they shouldn't be so close.

    I can completely understand why you didn't fight. You have more class. You don't need to justify anything to this relative. Keep your head & chin held high.

    My advice............ hmmmmm, I think my advice would be to avoid her. See if she comes to you with an apology - because I think she owes you one. But if not, I would just avoid her. Who needs issues like that? Especially from family members.

    Love Jayne x

    PS _ Can't wait to hear all about the delightful Hannah. I really LOVE her name!!! So classical!

  12. #138
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    Aug 2009
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    Jayne - thanks! I like that I am classy and Hannah is classical! Hey how far are you running? I have started some thing that looks more like a geriatric shuffle than running. LOL. I do a few bursts of about 5-10 metres during my walks. I can't wait to get back to running. Have you tried a triathalon? I have only done one, but am so keen to get back into my fitness so I can do one.

  13. #139
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    Sep 2006
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    Hi Dory and I have to say I'm happy you've joined us in here although I'm sorry about your precious angel bubs
    I just wanted to let you know that I'd be so annoyed(I'd prefer a stronger word but anyway) with that relative of yours who phoned you and said those things to you..I personally think what you wrote on Hanna's thank you and announcement cards is just beautiful and very very fitting. I really think some people are just so very rude and shouldn't be given the time of day kwim? I also think you are much stronger than what you are giving yourself credit for. Well done on rising above this person in the way you did
    Anyway how is Miss Hannah doing? How are you doing?

    Kelly How are you all doing? You've been a bit quiet lately and I'm hoping you're all ok and just being busy

    Jayne How are you doing? When do you fly back for Christmas? How is your beautiful family doing?

    Michelle I've been thinking of you and am hoping you're ok

    Lee to Flynn..I can't believe your little fella is the big 1 today

    Not much going on here..Just trying to get my act together and think about doing some Christmas shopping and counting down the days until we go away..Most of you know how hard this time of year is for me with a couple of angels growing their wings so very very close to Christmas but I'm really trying my best to make this 1 a happy one for Sage..He's soooooooooooooooooooooooo excited about everything to do with Christmas..he loved having his pic taken with Santa on Monday and he loves the decorations we have up and MIL was trying to do some of hers today and Sage was just trying to help with everything..its just beautiful that our precious little boy is having such a wonderful time with it all..
    I want to be able to have some genuinely happy pics of us this year to put into his special Christmas photo album as all the pics from last year are all tainted with such sadness from both DH & myself and that just breaks my heart every single time I look at them.

    Also I was looking at some pics on FB last night of our friend's little baby girl who is only 2 weeks old and Sage jumps up on my lap and tells me "we need one of those too mum" meaning a little baby..He is just adorable and I did really really well not to cry when he said that

    Anyway I have a huge week and weekend coming up..Work is rather busy atm with people trying to rush in and get their kids taught to swim before the holidays Sorry people but it does take more than 3 lessons to teach a child to swim!!! and I'm heading to Sydney on Saturday on a shopping bus trip lol..I don't do buses very well cos I get travel sickness so that should be fun lol and Sunday we are having our little mother's group Christmas party so that should be fun so long as the weather clears up.

    I hope everyone is ok.

  14. #140
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    Jan 2006
    Qingdao, China
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    DORY- The words 'marathon' & my name don't go into the same sentence......... bahaha. I'm laughing so hard just thinking about it!!! The trek home from school is about half an hour & I'm guessing it's about 4km? I know that isn't far, but you have never seen my bent out of shape bod! lol. I have little markers set up & I have to run to each one & then walk for a few minutes & then run to the next one. I am finding that I am running greater distances than I am walking & I'm getting stronger with my stride & also recovering with my breath better. We taxi to school, then I run/jog/hyperventilate home, then during the day, any grocery shopping or errands is done on foot & then I walk back to the school in the afternoon & probably 80% of the time, we walk home again. I'm getting about 3 hours+ of exercise per day. Then on Friday's I do Zumba. It sounds a lot, but honestly, the results I'm getting are so worth it! You will love chatting with Kelly, she does triathalons & so does her man. That is just WAY too much for me!! So, tell us, have you spoken to the 'relative in question'? I'm curious as to what comes out her mouth next. How is Miss Hannah today???

    MAKO _ Bless your beautiful heart, I think you are such an awesome & inspiring lady. Sage is so lucky to have you!!! I can't wait to get back to Aus & see his Santa pic on FB! The girls are going super! They are loving all the Christmas fanfare taking place at school. Boy, I thought in Aus we went OTT at Christmas, you should see how the Americans & also the Chinese do it! The Chinese don't celebrate Christmas, but all their malls are decked out to the nines in the most beautiful of decorations. It's wonderful. There are HUGE glittering Christmas trees everywhere. The kids think they are in wonderland! The classrooms at school all have trees, lights, tinsel, fake snow & decorations everywhere. It's really festive!!! Jessica got an absolutely glowing first report card from the school, so we are thrilled about that.

    AFM _ I am so Mother Earth, I made a big stroganoff for dinner last night, so it's leftovers all the way tonight! bahahaha. No cooking for me thank you very much! I'm off to snuggle my babies on the couch & watch cartoons. Oh yeah, the fog this mornign was so bad, I thought we had floated into the clouds. I couldn't even see the ground, let alone the other apartments in our complex. It took Alan's driver 4.5 HOURS to navigate the traffic to get him to work!! Madness.

  15. #141
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2006
    Melbourne
    843

    Hello!! I'm here... have been offline for a few days, damn phone stopped working, which meant no internet either and it's been killing me!!! Thankfully we've got it back again now but haven't had time to catch up on everything!!

    All is going well with us.... I'm extremely tired still as Campbell is waking quite a bit at night. Last night we had a few two hourly feeds.. which means not much sleep before waking again for the next feed. I've also had a few 'tummy problems'.. I think all the painkillers have been catching up with me and giving me some tummy aches.. not much fun. So I've stopped them all now.. except for the odd panadol as I've still got a bit of pain. Anyway other than the sleep deprivation, Campbell is such a great baby still. We still haven't even got the dummy out which I'm completely amazed about!! It's there waiting though and I've been tempted a few times but he really doesn't need it so we'll just wait and see. The feeding is going better than expected too.. although I still have a very sore nipple!! LOL.. but we're hanging in there and I know it's just an attachment problem!!

    Anyway must go.. have heaps to catch up on since being offline!! Hope everyone is well.

    Kel xxx

  16. #142
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    Jan 2006
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    KELLY _ Yay! I have missed you. Sort that attachment out darl!! If your nipple is still sore, it's only going to get worse!! Keep re-attaching him until it feels 'right', he might fuss, but it will be him who reaps the rewards at the end - he'll get a better feed. So sorry bout the 2 hourly feeds, but he must be growing?? So glad to hear about the dummy too. Not that I feel there's anything wrong with them, but so much better not having to go & put them back into their mouths all night long! Maybe Michelle can advise better on the painkillers? Maybe you have overloaded it a bit? Do you go back to your OB soon? You poor love!

    LEE _ Guess what? I got off 1.1kg today!!!!!!!!! Very, very, very, very happy girl right now! Rewarded myself with a really cute halter-neck top for our 2 weeks in Aus, some white linen pants & a really cute soft green singlet with a black tie around the waist. Ah, simple things!!!! How you doing??

    Love ME

  17. #143
    BellyBelly Member

    Apr 2007
    Hobart
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    Hi my lovelies,

    Dory - a warm welcome hon, I've followed your journey and truly admire the way you honour your lost and precious babes - I think what you wrote is BEAUTIFUL, how sad that friend completely missed the point.... I have very very little patience for stuff like that, so I'd probably be giving her a small serve, but knowing all the time it's probably not worth the effort. Your little girl is beautiful, you must just soak her up. There's so many emotions looking at your living baby, with your angels always so close by... we all understand the complexities of how all that goes, hugs.

    Sorry girls - have been doing it a big tough - have really bad hayvever... and major issues with lack of sleep - no fault of any small children, just me and insomnia.... and just feeling fragile right now, DH's homecoming has not really been what we hoped for - and to be honest, it's going to be so hard to make it work - I don't know I have the energy.... so, yeah, it's all a bit blah blah blah at the moment. We are heading up to NSW on 17th Dec for 3 weeks with my family - we all need this, relaxed beach holiday, so will see how things go.... but I'm not feeling hopeful now.

    Sorry to put a downer in here....

    Thanks for all your wishes for Flynn's birthday - we had a nice day with him - but will do a bbq with his godmother/my bestie in Hobart on Sunday - so that will be more exciting! He was happy eating the wrapping paper anyway lol.

    Jayne - well done on the 1.1kg... you are fading away babe, and photo of you in your new outfit!

    Hi to everybody else - hope the christmas season is not out of hand - it's always a tough time for most of us - but this year is more than tough for our darling Michelle - thinking of you hon, so much ....

    Lots of love, Lee xo

  18. #144
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    Jan 2006
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    Oh Lee - I'm sending you massive get well vibes. What a crud ending to your time flying solo! It's liberating to be able to have DH come home & you be bright as a button, like it was no sweat at all. It's crud you have to see him arrive chocked up with hayfever. I really hope you can get some meds to dry it out. & fast. HAPPY BIRTHDAY FLYNN!!! I can't believe how quickly that 12 months has gone!! I still picture the tiny bub in your ticker pic! I think you best update it! lol

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