I'm off to buy some Tena first thing in the morning Lee!!!!!!!
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I'm off to buy some Tena first thing in the morning Lee!!!!!!!
Hi ladies
just feeling really flat today. The sleep deprivation means I have a constant headache and an upset belly. I know O followed exactly the same path as B and I know it will pass but I'm a bit over it. Even co-sleeping doesn't help. To compound matters O is acting up big time. I don't have the patience with him that I should because I'm so zonked. I feel like I'm always rousing on him :( B has also started chomping on my nipple when he is feeding YOUCH is all I can say.
Just needed to get it out. DH and I are at eachother which is just the result of sheer exhaustion I know. Doesn't help that he is now questioning having another. I know it's just because we are doing it tough ATM but it upsets me. I know he doesn't mean it, I know it's just the exhaustion speaking.
On a postitve note, B us now cruising around the furniture and occasionally let's go and stands for a few seconds. Pretty impressive considering he is not even 8 months for a few more days.
Boy I sound like a whinger, thanks for listening.
Spring xx
No way do you sound like a whinger Spring :hug:. I'm so glad you came to us to let it out. You are doing a beautiful job with your boys my love, I'm sorry that the lack of sleep is making you feel so crappy. It is truly awful, and you and DH snapping at each other just makes everything seem horrible. It's like, if you're in it together, anything seems doable, but when no one is coping, everything feels like it's falling apart. I know it's not a cure-all, but is there any chance of you and DH getting some some time together, go and see a movie or something? I know it doesn't cure the sleep stuff, but it might help recharge the batteries.
Are you otherwise managing to look after yourself? Eating and drinking well, getting out for a walk or play most days? All those things will make such a difference. I honestly think you're going through the hard stage at B's age, before long you'll be past it, and you'll be able to wallow in the luxury of sleep :lol: I know you know that, but sometimes it's nice to be reminded ;).
Off to take some of my own advice LOL..........poor N has been really hard work this last week, especially when we go out. I know what you mean Spring, I feel like I'm always telling him off, or asking him not to do this or that. I feel mean, and I feel exhausted. Anyway, enough of me, I hope things are looking up for you soon.
How is everyone else? I've been missing this thread alot lately. Been hashing over D's pregnancy and birth, and early weeks, after Lou having her baby last week. The support I received in here was so wonderful, I will never forget it. And DEB, I don't know what I would have done without all the info you gave me as well, thank you.
My little man is now 5.3kg, so small, but oh so cute! He is rolling everywhere, and chatting lots (and loudly). He is such a cruisey and smiley boy, now his diet is looked after. We know now it's dairy, soy and oats that we have to avoid. Just moving him onto another prescription formula today, hope it's the last step in this challenging time!
Hope everyone else is doing well :D Hang in there Spring :hug:
Hellloooooo lovely ladies,
Im back! Sorry had my own issues to deal with and felt like I needed some time away. Miss N is a real handful, she doesnt sleep so trying to deal with all the issues that come with that - Im feeling your pain Spring.
Ok im going to try and catch up with where everyone is at before I attempt any sort of personals.
Oh and dont forget me for the Melb catch up - cant wait to see you all and you Miss Jayne before you go to China! So happy for you hun ;)
Love and hugs to you all,
Lis xx
Hi girls. I'm here. Just having a few issues with my ability to cope and not resort to reactionary parenting. The 3yo is killing me :( and the IL's have made plans that will either mean I miss out (which I anticipate it will) or I change my plans for Melbourne. There is no way I am missing out on catching up but there may need to be a change in days for me (fly down Saturday and come back Sunday instead). Who knows. I am over it all. Tired, exhausted, needing a good cry and feeling very much alone :(
I haven't been posting much because I don't want to make people feel guilty for having issues and venting about them. We all need to get them out.
BBL. I have a friend visiting today to give me some sanity and then the last home game of the season tonight. My last chance for a regular *outing* this year. How depressing does that sound :(
Michelle: a million gazillion hugs. My almost three year old is doing my head in big time. He is testing me at each and every opportunity so I get how freaking frustrating it is. I'm so sorry you feel so lonely. I know you're facing so much more than me but I'm very thankful that you're ok with me having a sooky la la whinge.
Ok. I'm OVAH it. This is how last night went
6.45pm feed to sleep
8.00pm resettle
9.30pm feed
11.30pm feed
AWAKE until 1.45 am!!!!! I tried feeding, rocking, patting, putting him in bed with us, change nappy etc etc etc
4.30am feed
5.45 up for the day
I just can't do it anymore!!! I have a constant headache, I have an upset tummy I just can't function.
So call me a terrible mum but we decided this morning to do controlled comforting. Who am I kidding it's controlled crying. I feel like I've had a bloody newborn for 8 months. It's affecting my ability to calmly parent O, it's affecting my relationship with DH, it's affecting my health and my sanity. I love B so much but as a 8 month old surely it isn't healthy to have so
little sleep.
I just tried it for his morning sleep. He cried on and off for about 40 mins. I consistently went in and resettled him. I felt like crap but hey, he fell asleep.
Man I feel like I'm losing the plot. I need to breath.
Spring hun, I feel your pain!!! We have been having similar issues here and I also find that DH and I snap at each other more because of the sleep deprivation and of course that only makes it worse. Do you have a babysitter? I got one recently and it was the best thing I ever did. While DH was away and the kids were sick, I would get her to come around just so that I could have a sleep and it did wonders. We are now giving ourselves one night a week or fortnight out on our own and I think we have really needed it. Hugs hun. But WTG your little man - cruising already!! At seven months my little guy has only just figured out how to roll the other way and is almost getting on all fours, and that's about it! I also had to resort to controlled crying on the weekend, and he cried for TWO HOURS!! I caved after that (much to DH's digust - we always have different ideas on how long to let them cry and he is much tougher than me), but I must say, he was better the next night and I have managed to cut one of the night feeds now. We'll see if it continues though. Why do these little people have to make life so hard for us sometimes?? I tell you what, it is lucky they are so cute!
Lisa - good to 'see' you. I hope you start to get some more sleep soon. Sounds like a lot of us are having similar issues ATM!
Mako - how are you doing hun?
Lee - I hear you re the toddler years. We are the same here - absolutely EVERYTHING is an issue! Sometimes I just want to scream at her to give me a break!! Glad to hear that you had a good time with your friend, and happy birthday to Remy!!
Jayne -how are you going hun? That must have been such a scare with Jess, I hope it never happens again. I am so sorry we didn't get to catch up while I was in Perth, I was really hoping to see you and little Claudia. When is the move scheduled for? it looks like we are almost definitely moving back to Perth now, probably in the next few months, but I don't know if you will still be around! Hopefully we will get to Melb when you are there so we can see you then. How are all the moving plans going? There must be sooo much to organise I bet.
Michelle - please don't worry about us - you need to post whatever you want and we all want to help you in any way we can. You are doing a wonderful job hun, and believe me, we are all guilty of reactionary parenting at times (in my case fairly often actually!). I have to say, George is scrumptious and I can't believe how much Lily looks like you! I love the new pics you have up on fb. I dearly hope you can make it to Melb, it would be lovely to meet you.
Janie - I am glad to hear that you have figured out the allergy issues. Sounds like your little man is doing very well! Are you still bfing?
freya - I hope you can make it to Melb, I would love to meet you!
hi to everyone else, sorry I haven't been around much lately. We were in Perth for a couple of weeks staying with my parents and I couldn't get online and we have been busy since we got back. It looks like DH's work are sending us back to Perth again so we are trying to figure out what we will do since we have tenants in our house for the next 10 months. Looks like living with the inlaws is most likely, argh!!! I am happy about moving back and being closer to family again, but also sad as we are really happy here. One thing is for sure - if we move in with the ILs, I will definitely be heading back to work PT!!
Oh Michelle :hug:
Spring - hun you do what you have to do. In a perfect world all kids would sleep 12hrs solid from birth, never push your limits. We'd all be sane and happy. Unfortunately it doesnt work that way, so we do what we have to do to survive. A rested you is important; equally as much if not more than something like controlled comforting/crying. I think just about every parent has had to do some version of it, whilst it isnt ideal it can be neccesary. I will say, and I know youll probably throw rotten eggs at me, that it does get easier to deal with; in that once they hit 12+mths its not completely controlled crying but more a battle of the wits, alot less emotional and guilt ridden. I wish I was up there so I could take the boys off your hands for a few hours so you could rest and have some you time :hug:
Thanks for all the support guys :grouphug: I just had a boot camp session and
managed to get out some pent up frustration. I had a big chat to mum this morning and she is going to help out during this week whilst I'm trying to get things together.
On a good note it only took 7 mins to settle for his sleep and he is still asleep 1 hour and going.
If this works I think I'll colapse in a heap.
Spring - it is around the time of a wonder week too and I know my little non sleepers took to being awake for a while during the night at this age.
Thanks girls. Just for being here. I just want what I can't have. I miss what isn't here anymore and I desperately miss sharing the load. Knowing I can tag team and get a time out. Discussing what we will do and how we will manage it. It is terrifying to have the sole responsibility for these little people. My decisions today are far reaching ones. I just don't want to stuff this up :(
Michelle I know my situation is not the same but I do get how scary it can feel to have the sole responsibility for these precious Beings. Sometimes that feeling can be engulfing. :comfort: :hug:
I am sorry I havent been around much my loves. I've been drowning a bit, come up for air and am flailing a bit again. It's tough some days & I dom't want to drag you all down.
I've started feeling pretty uneasy with a barrage of emails that are in short "irrational". It's thrown me somewhat that the father of my kids has such venom in him.
Anyway I just wanted to send hugs where they are needed. Spring, I am glad you have your mum to lend a hand while you are trying to get little B to sleep. :hug:
Michelle: Mate I can't imagine how overwhelming the task ahead seems. You can only do what you can do hun, and that is take each day at a time. One foot infront of the other. Just hang in there hun :comfort:
Inanna: no wise words just utter disbelief in the way FOTY chooses to conduct himself. It is just outrageous. I'm sorry this is happenening yet again.
Well tonight is going ok. I'm going to stick with this. I wish is was a wonder week thing Michelle but B has been having hours of awakeness each night for a few months now. It just isn't getting any better, infact it's getting worse. I just know that we as a family need to be able to get some much needed rest.
Spring x
Just popping into give Michelle, Spring, Lisa and Deb a huge hug :hug:
Hi to everyone
Hi Beautifuls,
Sorry for not posting here lately - have had ZERO time for anything like that. Michelle, Spring, Deb - we are all doing it so hard at the moment - wish we could group hug in real life.
I'm going to Sydney tomorrow with my dog - re-homing Indy girl at with friends of friends in Newcastle - so although devastated to say goodbye to her, it really is for the best right now, and one massive removal of much stress at home. Then Wednesday I'm going to Phuket - it's cheap, it's a direct flight, it's pretty safe and I can get 5 massages a day if I want. This has come about because of things at home, things are really hitting rockbottom, and I feel like if I don't escape I'm headed to the loonie bin.... completely overwhelmed with putting out DH's 'spotfires' - he's very capable of taking care of the kids (although big kids not that happy, but they will survive) for a week, and it was his idea, he booked it all and even got me a new laptop to keep me company. I know this sounds a bit dramatic - but I just feel like if I don't escape to recharge, to process - then I'm going to completely burn out.... so I hope this will help. DH is still going to France in October for 7 weeks..... so that'll be my payback!
Oh girls - I wish I could make everything better for all of us. Michelle, like you said to me on the phone the other day - things will improve, they will, I know it for all of us, I really believe that.
Sorry for lack of personals - just wanted to pop in and touch base, I should have good internet access where I'm staying, so will be back in a few days. I'll be having a massage for every one of you beautiful girls.
Love and hugs, Lee xoxo
So quiet in here girls, whats going on? Thought I'd log in and say hi to you all in here! Not too much to report at my end, treading water at the moment. My DH flies to France next week for 8 weeks - so I'm bracing myself for solo parenting 4, bit scared because I know there will be no break, and I'll be sleep deprived too, and I don't have much help here at all - but besides those challenges - I'm welcoming the break from a lot of the stresses, and will enjoy some more chilled time with the big kids.
Please all pop in and say hello!!!!
Lee xoxo
Hello! :hug:
I've got a tummy bug & feel like hell. It's school holidays & I lvoe that. But the fwexh has the two girls & I am worried. Trying to let that go but still...
DD15 is back home! Wow it's been huge. They drove her into town & left her there with no money, phone etc. She stayed with a friend. Went to school & told the story. So now she is very happy to be home again. She wasn't "allowed" to stay at Sloppy's on the weekends - that was "family time" for the FW and Sloppy & her boys.
FWEX believes she has Aspergers... It's all been a nightmare. But she's home. She's safe. She's seen her father for all he is - which has been incredibly traumatic but in the long run it's a good thing I think. xxx
Deb it's so great to hear that your daughter is back home! Sounds like it's been quite full on, but I'm very glad to hear that she is back.
We've just been bouncing from one disaster to another. Sam spent a couple of nights in hospital with croup, DH broke a rib in a motorbike crash (damned lucky it wasn't worse!) and today I just had the clutch go in my car smack in the middle of a busy Sydney intersection... topped off with a healthy serve of financial woes and seriously bad arthritis flares for me. But I now have a disability support pension, so hopefully we can get on top of things soon.
BW
OMG Deb, I'm doing such a happy dance that R is home!!!!!!!!! :cheer: :D What fabulous news, you've made my night! I've thought of you, and her, often through this time, I'm so glad she's back where she belongs, and wiser for the experience. Painful it may be :(, but it will certainly be for the best.
Lee, that sounds like hard work :( We'll be here for you to vent to, FWIW. I know that doesn't help you get any sleep!!!
Lee sending you a hug and hope you manage to get some rest while your Hubby is away. How was your little break away??
Deb I'm so happy that your eldest DD is home and safe with you..I really do feel for her but maybe the stay with her dad was what she needed so she could really *see* for herself how he is itms. I absolutely love hearing you say how much you love school hols. Makes me warm and sqiushy on the inside cos it seems like a lot of parents loathe school hols as they "have" to spend time with their kids and to me that's sad as I love having my boy around and miss him terribly when he's at his Nan's or with his godparents but know its just as important for hi to be spending time away from me too lol. God help me next year when he starts preschool.
BW I hope you guys catch a break soon..sounds like things have been tough lately.
Jayne :happybirthday: I hope you've had a wonderful day.
Well as most of you know I had another m/c last week :( I thought that was our final chance of having another bub but DH surprised me and said he wants to try once more. So now I'm not sure where to turn for help. I think we need to get another opinion cos to me 6 little angels is far far too many to just write off as "oh well it obviously wasn't meant to be". There has to be a reason and a way to help stop this from happening again.
DH is spending the night in hospital tonight as he had his op for his kidney stones and he was late going to theatre and in lots of pain when he woke up so I'll pick him up in the morning. DS is sleeping over at the IL's house as we were uncertain about what was happening with DH and didn't want to have to get him out of bed if I had to bring DH home late tonight.
I hope all you Melbourne girls and the ones traveling there this weekend have a blast..Can't wait to hear all about it.
Hi to everyone else. I hope you're all doing really well.
Mako - hugs babe... I'm with Deb and one of the few that loves school hols (not for entirely non-selfish reasons though, love not rushing in the mornings and just chilling a bit with the bigger ones) but we only have 3 school terms in Tassie, so have just finished hols, now got to wait till Christmas! I'm no expert, but yes, 6 losses cannot surely be a coincidence, Deb and Michelle will no doubt help with 'a plan'.... you need a Dr on your side, and one that is clued up. My girlfriend in Sydney has seen a good FS, she lives in Rhodes, I will ask her who it was and get back to you. She also has a good Chinese herbalist, and fell pg first time on a magic potion, sadly she miscarried at 9 weeks though, but she is 42 and it's going to be harder naturally. I wish I could do it for you, I'm one of those people you love to hate that falls pregnant at the mere whiff of a little spermie, just hate that it's been so heartbreaking for you hon, you are so kind and deserving. I know falling pregnant isn't so much the issue, it's holding the pregnancy, so here's hoping you get the right understanding and support to ensure your next pregnancy goes to term. Hugs again. Oh and I wish you were coming to Melbourne!
Just realised girls, it's tomorrow I fly out, well 10.30pm, will need a couple of matchsticks for my eyes!
Lee xoxo
Mako, have you considered seeing someone in the line of acupuncture, traditional chinese medicine or similar?
My issues weren't puzzled out by any of the doctors I saw as they ignored the completely normal, but only just under problem limits levels on some of my blood tests. The woman I saw for acupuncture had a theory that I just had so much stuff going wrong with my body that levels which wouldn't worry someone else were a problem for me. When we treated them, I got Sam.
Unfortunately she's in Rozelle so it would be a hell of a drive for you. I wonder if we could find someone similar up that way. I would be happy to call them and see if they can recommend someone in your area if that would help.
BW
Thanks Lee and BW..My results apparently come back either just ok or borderline kwim..well this is what I've been told anyway.
BW can you pm me the details of the person you saw and I can call them when I feel up to it?
I'm a bit confused about it all cos we don't really seem to have a problem falling pregnant but in keeping it growing so honestly I feel like a huge failure and no matter how many times I'm told by whoever that I'm not I just don't seem to feel any different.
When I saw my GP last week he asked me what we planned on doing as far as trying again and at that point I really thought that would be it for us but he asked if we'd ever consider surrogacy :0 I told him no way would that even be an option as my DH isn't keen on the IVF path if it ever came to that..He has nothing against it or people who have to go down and we have friends who have done or are going through IVF now but it's just something he wouldn't go for personally and that is ok by me itms.
Have fun in Melbourne Lee! What time are you getting in?
It's interesting Mako ut many recurrent miscarriagers do not have a problem falling pregnant - but staying pregnant is the issue. It is very very frequently autoimmune & very frequently the cause is unknown at this time.
Big big cuddles darling - I feel very very strongly that you need clexane - preferably from ovulation... At the least. We'll talk when you're up to it. :hug:
Deb - leave Hobart at 10.15pm, arrive Melbourne 11.30pm Thursday (tomorrow) really looking forward to meeting the beautiful girls !!!! I have a feeling it will be a very special weekend xoxo
To all the girls heading to Melbourne this weekend..Have fantastic time and travel safely.I'm looking forward to hearing what a wonderful weekend you've all had :)
Wish you could be here girls! Ive met Amanda already and she is fabulous. I cant wait to meet the other girls (I already know how awesome Michelle is ofcourse and Im dying for Gorgeous George cuddles!)
Wow, wow, wow... what a lovely afternoon!!! Thank you so much to all the amazing ladies that were lucky enough to be able to meet us in Melbourne. I wish that the rest of you were able to join us... we missed you... but had a wonderful time!!
It was so wonderful to meet those of you I haven't met before and great to see those I have met, again!! It was truely special to have some really good cuddles with the gorgeous George!! And great to see the other three little men... even if I do still smell like D's spew (LOL... I really need to get used to that again don't I?)!!! It definitely made me a want this little bubba out... although I'm a little scared about that thought all of a sudden!! I wish I could of been at dinner last night.. sounds like you all had a lot of fun... but I'm so thankful I was able to be there today. Thank you again, you're all very special people and I can't wait for the annual catch up!!
Jayne - All the very best for the big move hun... what an adventure. Make sure you keep in touch!! I can't believe you won't be in Perth the next time we go back to visit.. it just won't be the same!!
Well... I'm really tired... this baby has exhausted me today and my poor belly is still feeling really tight and sore.. must be stretching, I'm convinced I'm going to get a lot bigger in the next 5 weeks and 5 days!! Thanks for all the lovely comments today.. and I'm glad you liked the Mars Bar slice and Vanilla slices!!
Safe travels home everyone... I was waiting out the front for a little while, poor DH got a bit lost and Luke was sound asleep by the time they found me!!
Kel xxx
I am so glad you could come also Kelly! It was so lovely to meet you & your beautiful belly! We ate way too much last night but we walked it off when Jayney got a bit bushed! Aaah it was lovely soaking up Melbourne post Magpies Mayhem!
I'm exhausted but happy to see my little people again!
What a wonderful weekend. It was so lovely to meet those of you I haven't met before and to see again those that I have met. What a beautiful group of women. I just wish I could have stayed longer. We had a great but very long weekend. After leaving you guys we had dinner at DH's aunt's house and the kids were so well behaved, then we went back to DH's cousin's house where we were staying and DD went straight to bed, although DS decided it was party time and stayed up til 11pm! We then went to the St Kilda markets yesterday and had lunch in the botanic gardens before leaving for home. We didn't get home until 9pm last night after leaving for Melbourne at 9am on Sat, so it was a very long but lovely couple of days!
I hope everyone had a lovely weekend and a safe trip home xx
Doing it tough tonight guys. 4 years ago I was in labour with Harry and my world was crashing down around me. It is crystal clear in my mind. Every contraction and emotion is imprinted in my mind.
I just finished making his birthday cake. What I would give to watch him eat it :(
4 years gone and it still hurts, really really bad.
Oh sweetheart. :comfort: What I would give for you to have the experience of him eating it also. Nothing I can say is anything but hollow in the face of such a memory. Just know that I hold your hand & your heart as you relive your Harry's birth. I am just so sorry. :cry: :comfort: :hug:
Spring I'm sending you a big :hug: hun. I wish Harry was here to eat his beautiful cake that his very special mumma has made him :hug: Happy 4th Birthday sweet little Harry xo
Freya how are you today? You've been on my mind most of today. :hug:
Spring - I am sending you a big squishy hug as you ride the waves of memories. You are not alone. You are surrounded by love :hug: Happy 4th Birthday Harry xxxx
Spring - Sending some massive hugs your way on what will be a very difficult day for you. I wish there was more I could say to help you through and I wish so much that little Harry way there to enjoy the cake you've made. It breaks my heart. I hope you're surrounded by lots of love and hugs today... we're certainly all thinking of you!
Freya - How are you?? I've been thinking of you also and praying all is ok.
AFM - Been feeling a little bit down again lately.. just so tired and have been really sore all week.. lots of cramping and just feeling yuck (not sure if I'm maybe getting some braxton hicks or something). Probably did way too much yesterday which hasn't helped, I just miss having my family around to help out.. and it was my Dad's birthday yesterday (he passed away when I was 17)... so that always stirs up some emotions! The joys of life hey! Can't complain though.. I've certainly got a lot of 'good' in my life right now and need to focus on that. All of you wonderful ladies help me realise that and I hope you know I'm forever grateful!!
Love to you all.
Kel xxxx
Hello lovelies.
Spring - Wishing your beautiful boy Harry a happy 4th birthday. I hope you are surrounded by love and support today. Sending you much love xxxx :hug:
Freya - I have also been thinking of you. Praying that all is OK :hug:
I have a candle burning for each of you....
Spring - tears in my eyes as you relive your first precious baby boy's sad birth - the passage of time can be a doulbe edged sword, but at times like this the pain is just as sharp, if not sharper, than 4 years ago. We understand sweetie. Dear sweet little Harry, happy 4th birthday, you are loved and remembered forever xoxoxo
Freya - did you get your bloods back yet? Praying you get good news, please let us know hon.
AFM - Melbourne a distant, but oh so beautiful memory now girls - trying not to loose it - and keep my calm - have enlisted my mum to come down next week, she's not renowned for her initiative, but she is a body in the house if I need to pop out when a baby is asleep etc.... so will help a bit!
Hugs all around!
Lee xo
Happy fourth birthday Harry! I wish he was here to eat his birthday cake but know that he is surrounded by alot of love from alot of people, as you are Kristy :hug:
Thinking of you Freya... hope all is ok.
Jayne - Thinking of you too hun.. hope the flight is/went ok.. would of been a very hard day for you yesterday. Can't wait to hear all about your new surroundings!!!
Kel xxx
Freya Thinking of you today and hope you have hubby there to hold your hand today but know that I'll be there holding your hand in spirit too.
Jayne I hope the flight isn't too bad and the girls are ok. Can't wait to here all about your new adventure ;)
Willow It was great to see you and your boys the other day.
Michelle thanks for letting me have cuddles of Gorgeous George last Friday. Hopefully we can catch up again sometime soon. I also hope your 3 little people are on the mend now too.
Lee how's everything going with you?
Kelly Look at your ticker hun..can't believe you haven't got all that long to go now :) How's Luke?
So happy to be able to see the pics from your trip to Melbourne. Your all looking fantastic and glad you all had a wonderful time :)
Hi to everyone.
We have a busy weekend here with Rach's little girl Evangeline's 1st Birthday party today shame its raining but anyway Princess Lilli is letting us know she's around too :) I'm sure the kids will have fun running around the park in the rain lol and tomorrow we have another birthday party for a friend's little boy so hopefully the weather clears up a bit by then.