Yesterday was ok. But today, omg they are both terrors! DS is just following on from DD and has noidea but DD is just being rude and horrible. She has started calling everyone a loser an keeps sticking her tounge out(i so hate this!) and making nar nar singsong noises. I know she doesnt know what it means as such but she does know its wrong. I have noticed most of it is when she doesnt get her own way and then it just esculates(sp?). Like today she wanted more of DS's birthday cake, i said no more, you have to wait until after dinner now. She cracked this ****s and starts being naughty. Asking for things she knows 1) we dont have and 2) she knows she isnt allowed to have. She is breaking things, throwing things, hitting, ripping up books. Only in the last couple of hours too.

DH just sent her to bed because she almost pulled down DH's computer onto the floor. She went into her room for 2secs. Has jsut come out now and is asked to go back, she says no no no, blows a raspberry and asks all smart. How can i disapline her when she wont stay in her room?

Sorry, i really am just venting in here. It's so frustrating!!