Thats IT, I can't take it anymore

[SJL]

Lulu,
I was told different things work differently for everyone, so give anything a try.

The one that worked for my daughter is Weleda relaxing drops.

Another thing i thought of which may or may not be helpful, my cousin had a lot of probs getting her daughter to sleep and they worked out they couldn't bath her at night because that hyped her up, but then came along baby number 2 and he had to be bathed at night or he wouldn't settle.

Another thing, have you head of the Queen Elizabeth Centre?? it is a facility in dandenong (I think), they can possibly give you some help. I found out about it after I had started getting my girls sleep patterns under control.

Good Luck
Sjl

[Astrid]

The whole sleep thing just never seems to end. If you are consistent it does get better. It may not be wonderful and easy every night, but it does improve.

We have had so many ups and downs with Miss 3 and sleep. She is getting better though. We have found that we need to be tight with our routine, if we let things go too long it will fall apart. There was a tendency for us to lengthen the time between bath and bed when she would have her milk. Either we would be watching TV or DH would be online gaming. Often it takes both of us to prompt each other to keep on top of it. DH does the teeth brushing, getting her in bed and reading the first few books. Then I will go in after a bit of a wait. Sometimes she will be asleep, other times she will be yelling out for me. I read her a couple of books making sure I warn about how many are left. Then I will leave with some excuse of checking on Evie, or just being firm that it is time for sleep and I will check on her later. Often she will sit there and read till she goes to sleep, the odd time I will have to go in and read till she goes to sleep. She probably takes longer to get to sleep than some "experts" would like, but she gets there. Oh and she does wake some nights. She is still so hyped before bed, she has so much energy, it is amazing really that she does go to sleep.

To be honest I still hate bedtimes, as sometimes it will all go to hell and there will be lots of tears. that bubs is much better than her sister, she seems to be so far.