thread: 20 minutes of sobbing 'helps put baby to sleep'

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  1. #1
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    Jan 2008
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    . Yes it was hard to her him cry and not go in or rock him to sleep in my arms, but he was getting to old for rocking to sleep. U can tell the difference bewteen cryign and having a whinge, if he was really crying to the point he was gunna be sick we'd go in and calm him down Now we r up to the point were he only have to sit for a few mins he is asleep. THese so called experts obviously dont have children

    I suppose every child is different and whatever works best for the child and parents is the go.
    Last edited by BeautifulMadness; March 31st, 2009 at 03:42 PM.

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    May 2007
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    *begin sarcasm*
    Well, yeah of course. The poor cherubs exahust themselves that they fall asleep. Of course, in that 20 minutes the emotions they feel some terrible emotions, fear, abandonment, loss, danger, but hey, at least they fall asleep. The ends MUST justify the means, of course. Sleep is the ultimate goal of parenting.
    *end sarcasm*

    I think this is terrible. One day I turned the monitor on but accidentally switched it to the wrong frequency. Jazz was crying and I thought it was the child next door because the monitor was on and jazz wasn't crying. I bawled at the thought that she was in there thinking mummy had left her to cry I don't know how long she was crying for but I had this horrible lump in my throat. I couldn't imagine letting her do that on a daily basis! I'd prefer her to be awake and me tired, then have her cry herself to sleep... I have cried myself to sleep before. It's terrible.

    I have left her to cry. When I am at my absolute wits end with her. I can count on my hand how many times. I personally can't justify letting her go through that range of emotions at an age when all they should feel is safe, loved, and cherished. Yes, it might seem to work for some people but at what cost? There needs to be more to support parents through tough sleep patches, so they don't need to resort to (un)controlled crying.

    JMO.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
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    There needs to be more to support parents through tough sleep patches, so they don't need to resort to (un)controlled crying.
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    This is the heart of the matter!!! This is what we need MCHN to know! My dd didn't sleep for the first 15mths of her life - it was hard but we made it through. We were given no helpful advice from medical professionals except controlled crying variations and giving her phenurgan to sedate her?????

    What ended up helping was an elimination diet - sleep problems solved no controlled crying needed

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    I can't say I agree with controlled crying in most circumstances, and certainly not from birth. That said, we have a client who has recently been having lots of problems with an unsettled baby, poor feeding, a diminishing milk supply, and a baby who was losing weight. We went down a lot of other paths first - attachment parenting, baby wearing, but she just wasn't coping. She was a single mum, and despite the support of her family, she was having lots of trouble and was very used to a routine.

    In the end, we decided to try controlled crying with her four month old. Within 24 hours he was sleeping and feeding for longer periods; within 48 hours, he was sleeping really well, and feeding really well. Within the week, she was feeling 100% better, her milk supply was noticably improved, and bub was gaining weight. And that is the second time I have seen it work.

    I think we need to be careful not to demonise it. I don't believe for a minute that babies can be manipulative, although I do think that mothers and babies can develop bad parenting habits that become entrenched and lead to sleep and settling problems. When managed sensitively and appropriately, it can be a good option for some mums and babies. And there is certainly a big difference between carefully managed controlled crying and the kind of baby abandonment espoused by Truby King devotees...

    We "kind of" used controlled crying with Molly, although not with Olivia - we just knew from her personality that she would not benefit from us, she was a very attached baby and remains so today.

    I don't think it is a bad thing that MCHN have an understanding of it, the ramifications of it, and an understanding of how to do it properly and safely, although I do hope that they are sensitive and careful in who they offer it too, and how it is taught.