BEWARE - sleep advice from the 'experts' MAY BE DISTRESSING

[*Beema*]

OMG that is just horrible

A friend went to Torrens House and got similar advice, she chose to just keep going with the co-sleeping and doing it their way.

That last story was just horrific, I could not have done it, I feel so sorry for the parents, they must have felt absolutely horrible at the end of the seven hours and felt that they had to listen to the Paed's advice

DD didn't sleep through until well after 13 months, and I think that is pretty normal TBH.... there is no way I could have left her for any length of time compariable in those stories

Telling parents that it is completely fine to allow a child to get so upset that they vomit is just OTT!!!

[Dansta]

farmgirl: i can understand the sleep deprivation part. but you'd think an 'expert' would know that a child screaming for 7 hours would = possable averion to sleeping in the cot?

i was thinking about this some more and i remembered when my MG used to meet and one of the mums did the whole "sleep school" thing as her DS wasnt sleeping "twelve hours strait" as 7 months and she said she WATCHED a little girl get put down, then this little girl got so upset she threw up and the nurse came and changed her sheets and put her back down. now repeat twice more before the little girl 'went to sleep' this little girl would have been 18months old... for me i find that people around my age dont seem to understand that its 'normal' for babies not to sleep though (EG 12 hrs) until after a year old. and even then its a stretch. i know my next bubba will be treated as DJ was (and still is!) with sleep. if it happens it happens if it doesn't it doesn't. or if its co-sleeping with the whole family so be it. they're only little for so long before they want to go to bed on their own...

[nicjay]

Just my thoughts here FWIW...I'm well aware that a sleep deprived mum out there may want to slap me LOL

You go to a dr because there is something wrong right? These sleep drs only exist because people think there is something wrong because their baby won't sleep for long periods at night. IMO until society in general stops perpetuating the myth that babies should sleep for 12 hours straight from 1 month of age then not much will change and parents in a fog of sleeplessness will feel like they are doing something wrong and that their baby has a "problem" when they aren't and he/she in fact doesn't. Too often motherhood is made out to be Huggies and J&J moments, and whilst it is at times, it is damn hard work too. I wish someone had told me that before my 1st, although I probably wouldn't have believed them

I'm a lot more relaxed about it and more self confident 2nd time around, and don't have many anxious moments at all about how badly my bub sleeps, she woke up 5 times last night But having said that, we cosleep to maximise my rest and I can usually catch a bit of shut eye during the day too - don't know what I'd do if I couldn't....

[RhiChiChi]

Just wanted to say I actually went to Torrens house when DD was 10 weeks - they do not do crying it out at all and were actually fantastic for the feeding problems I was having with DD and they were incredibly supportive. I imagine some sleep schools are better than others

I want to say that I too went to a 'sleep school', not so that my DD would sleep for x amount of hrs per night - there were many reasons we went. I agree with babymiracles that some would be better than others. For example my gf went to Tweedle following advice from her SIL. My gf daugther was constipated & was struggling to do # 2. Finally she did when she was in her cot for her night sleep and the poo was hard & the size of a golfball. Her DD was distressed & the nurse(?) told me gf to change her daughter in her cot & then put her back to bed so she knew it was bedtime.... needless to say my gf checked herself out the next day. The one I went to WAS NOT like that at all.

I also agree with Farmgirls post - I think she made a good point. Some parents must be so low, sleep deprived - whatever & are looking for support / a 'solution' and turn to 'experts'. I certainly DO NOT agree with the advice that was given by these 'experts' but I can see why the parents may have thought to follow the advice given

I have even been told by two gf to do CC/CIO & I won't & my DD is nearly 3 and doesn't sleep through the night all the time. I will admit that I have listened on the monitor to my DD cry/winge and waited to see if she will settle - I don't rush to her straight away (not sure if that is considered CIO/CC)

[*Efjay*]

[B][I]

3. A mother of a six month old girl went to a sleep doctor in Adelaide and was told to give baby a top up feed and then do not go back into nursery for seven hours NO MATTER WHAT!!! Well unfortunately the parents followed this advice, the baby screamed for seven hours and when they went to baby after SEVEN hours the cot was covered in poo and vomit - now the baby cries whenever going near her cot!!!

I know someone who had the same experience. Made me sick to the stomach when she told me about it.

[willow5]

OMG!!! That's horrible makes me want to cry thinking how scared and stressed those babies would have been