sheyne rowley

[prama]

Hi girls

Was wondering if aanyone read her book or used her? she's called the baby whisperer and has a book called Dream Baby Guide

TIA!

[Oorki Galoorki]

i believe its similar to the crap TH has put out...

[Queen]

I have it, but currently do not have time to work through 700page book lol...apparently she is good. I agree with her way of working out sleep issues, that fixing sleep is about what happens during the day not about the sleeping at night.

[BellyBelly]

Yup same as TH and NOT categorised as gentle parenting - they say they have their 'differences' but they are much of a muchness if you ask me.

[Ozziehoffy]

TH??

I personally can't say that I like her. She was on ummm Sunrise I think it was the other morning. She's very anti co-sleeping which I'd never realised until then! I was rather shocked. I p/t co-sleep and I have Elijah right next to me in our room and in fact Oskar only just moved himself out of our room into his own (new room and bed all in one go lol) about a month ago. He too p/t co-slept. He learnt to settle on his own as he got older and I believe as he got to be aware that he was not in fact alone. ... anyway, sorry gone off on a tangent, but yeah, personally not for me.

[Oorki Galoorki]

Tizzy Hall...evil "make baby scream to sleep" trainer

this is my personal opinion not the opininon of the BB

[Bec1]

Hi, just stumbled across this conversation.

4 Yrs ago Sheyne stayed with us. Our 11 month old went from no day sleeps and crazy interupted sleeps to sleeping 11-12 hrs at night and 2-3 hr day sleep, big change in 1 day with minimal tears. (very different to sleep schools!) I purchased her book this year as my 6 month old was up to similar tricks. In fact I was having to feed her every 40 mins thru night. First night on new routine she slept the full night.

Yes the book is daunting but i think that is because you cant fix these probs fully without the full info. these things take effort, Also Sheyne is not a mother. Nor is my midwife but she was excellent. In fact I dont believe my physio has ever sprained her ankle but she fixed mine ok. Also she doesn't mind co sleeping if it is working for you.


in my opinion Sheyne is the best (if not the only) person that offers a sensitive and comprehensive solution for babies with real sleep issues and she is the real deal. Hope this helps those with difficult sleepers out there. Good luck!!

[prama]

thanks bec.
tho it is my personal preference to go for someone who's a mother themselves..

[Lulu]

Bec, TBH it would be very very rare that a routine could be changed in ONE night.

[prama]

Bec, TBH it would be very very rare that a routine could be changed in ONE night.

yes, i was going to add that too, im not sure a bub/toddler could sleep through the night after just one night of 'help'
we were in Tresillian for a week and only 2 out of the 5 kids sleep through the night, well most nights.

[BellyBelly]

In my opinion Sheyne is the best (if not the only) person that offers a sensitive and comprehensive solution for babies with real sleep issues and she is the real deal.

Errrr I have to strongly disagree with this. Babies don't actually NEED a routine or plan - babies have needs and many 'solutions' out there shape them to suit our lifestyle and make them convenient. There are many tips and different things we can try which can be very successful and very gentle.

Yes sometimes mothers and families get sleep deprived and tired and desperately need help. But there is no community, no wisdom being passed on, no extra hands... and the wisdom that is out there and available are in the form of some great books and parenting experts (who are parents themselves and know the emotion and hormones involved with that mother baby connection, like what it feels like when your heart breaks in two to hear your baby cry) who teach us that we are the experts, and most of us have normal babies, not babies with a problem. It's identifying those books and telling others about them against the big marketing dollars of other books. How is that the real deal?

[onthefly]

In fact I dont believe my physio has ever sprained her ankle but she fixed mine ok.

Yeah, but the thing is an ankle is an ankle, pretty much always the same, so I'm sure it's possible to learn to fix one without actually spraining your own. Children are unique, individual human beings (as are their parents) so the idea you can apply a one-size-fits-all approach to parenting doesn't really sense. Someone who's had children (and particularly someone who's had several) will know this.

[prama]

Bec, have other mums you know have had the same success with her?

[LMS]

Hi Prama,
I have known at least 2 other mum's who have had Shayne in their homes and they did nothing but benefit from her. I have also bought her new book. Whilst not reading it from cover to cover as it is rather thick, I looked for the sections that were appropriate to our issues and it made a whole lot of sense to me and my DH. We used some of her techniques when DD was not settling to sleep easily, and within 5 days there was a massive turn around. Sometimes you just need a little helpful guidance or a new idea and her's have truly worked for us.

[onthefly]

You can introduce yourself here.

[amyhunz]

I have to 2nd the positive praise for Sheyne! I think her philosopy is gold. My DD is now 17mo and a different child because of her advice. I can't praise her holistic approach highly enough. I realise all babies/ toddlers are different but her ideas are logical and sensible and I believe would apply to most children.

I must have read near 50 books on sleeping and her philosphy is the only holistic approach i.e. tackles sleep in relation to the rest of a child's day - eating, behaviour etc I bought the 'No Cry' books and the 'Save Our Sleep' (more routine focused books). To be honest, I got jack of the no cry/ gentle stuff. It just didn't work for my LO. A more structured approach was key. I don't believe in CC (as does Sheyne). Rather I believe in really listening to a baby's cries and interpreting them correctly. I know when my LO is crying out of the desire to have company or because she's over-tired versus when she's sick or has a genuine emotional need. Because she doesn't wake very often I know that when she does, it's out of a genunine need. Sheyne's philosophy helped me grasp this with confidence. I now get the sleep I need to be a better mum to my DD. My DD is also a healthier, happier child.

In the end we're all going to disagree, but I can only say what worked for me and I have no hesitations recommending her book to anyone. She is the reason I'm now pregnant with number 2...I thought my DD was going to be an only child!

[Bec1]

Hi Prama,

To answer your question, Sheyne has a 99 percent success rate for her personal visits. Obviously reading the book is very different to having her there. As far as babys needing routines, well I agree each baby is different and some just go with the flow and some don't (mine unfortunatley). All I can say is my kids have been so much happier after being on the routines. Some of the previous comments have made it sound like I wanted the routines so i could go out clubbing or something (errr) but was searching for someone with answers, and for me and lots of others she was the only one that worked. I'm certainly not saying that it is the only solution but people often come to Sheyne after they have tried everything else. And yes it is common with Sheynes method for babies to sleep thru first night. i've been to sleep school and certainly not the case there (i'm still racked with guilt after going there I can assure you).

Just thought it might help someont to know she helped me. You can contact sheyne on her web site but if you are stuggling then let her know as she does prioritise.

Again, hope this helps. please, no judgments for trying to do the best for my family.

[Heaven]

I know when my LO is crying out of the desire to have company or because she's over-tired versus when she's sick or has a genuine emotional need.

What I don't understand is why is the need for company not 'a genuine emotional need'????

It certainly is for me, and if I wanted a hug but my DH decided that wasn't a genuine need I think I'd be pretty upset too.