thanks heaps ladies, looks like Lions Club is a winner here (and i might attempt to add the marzipan icing if i'm game enough) ... would you believe i saw the Lions club cake stall at the shopping centre the other day and i wondered what they would be like so that's certainly helped me

hey Tinks Ads was talking about getting one from Coles but i didn't want to get one from there and didn't know how tasty they would be for that price