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    Double post kinda... silly computer!


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    I understand were you are coming from Lulu, thats what I mean by it depends on the way the dog is raised to hunt. It can be raised in order to hunt and kill which I agree is horrible and I believe these dogs are in no way suitable as a family and then there are dogs that are raised to hunt in a humane and ethical way - these dogs, of course depending on the owner and lifesytle in and out of hunting can be loving family pets.

    I personally believe that not all hunting dogs are feral.

    I hate hearing of animals being used to hunt and fight in ways which are cruel and inhumane to themselves and other animals. I hate that the repution of some breeds are scarred because of such people.
    I am passionate about bull terriers in particular but also other so called dangerous breeds as I have personally been touched by them in a loving way.

    I will leave it at that now .

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    WRT to having them around kids though, it make little difference in my mind that they are taught to pick and bail anyway. A small child or baby even is lot more fragile than a wild pig. It takes a hell of a lot less to break its neck or tear into its jugular than a boar. The applied pressure to achieve an undesired result is much less than to acheive the desired result for hunting iykwim.
    The fact remains that it doesnt matter how you train it to hunt, it hunts. You dont need a hunting dog around babies, particularly if the child arrives in the pack AFTER the dog.

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    I have just spoken with DF and he's since told me he was just giving me crap about the hunting part, because he knows how much I hate that kind of blood gore thing. It would purely be a family pet. We are on quite a bit of land that would have plenty of space for the pups to run around so that wouldn't be a problem. I'm going to have some fun having alook into these creatures I think!
    If we were to get one we were aiming for a femail as our GSD is male, and we would have her de-sexed. I spoke with a breeder today just to feel my way around in regards to termperment (we probably won't actually get one for another 12 months or so yet) and she pretty much said she would refuse to sell me one because I'd have her de-sexed. Apparently alot of breeders sell them with the right to take them back off you to breed from them at least once, becuse there are limits of how many you are allowed to keep on your property at the one time, and without having this right they just wouldn't be able to keep up with breeding. Seems a bit odd to me, personally!

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    *brain fart*

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    Yeah, I'm coming from a place where my bro didn't trust his dog around people and it was penned accordingly. He was Rambo on the weekends, crawling through the bush, would 'air out' his clothes so they didn't smell like washing powder (DEAD giveaway apparently), and you were often confronted with a bug, tusky head in the freezer when you went to get ice.....
    As ugly as Bull was, he was very loyal and adored my bro.


    Gawd, I'm glad DF was stirring you!
    Dp just said that some breeders do things like that but to watch out for your rights regarding any pups produced from your OWN dog.

    GL!

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    Just to add some mud to the mix. I love, love, love animals. We had a bull mastiff x rod ridgeback dog, that my ex used to take pig hunting, and he was the most loverble, placid dog, you could ever meet, everyone loved him. (he died of cancer) my burmese used to cuddle and go to sleep against his stomach.

    Some dogs just know home is home, and work is work. It's all about the dog and their environment.

    I better add, Dr Hugh Worth from RSPCA says, no dog should be left alone with children.

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    Thanks everyone. I was more interested in hearing from people who had actual experiences with them, their personallity's, if they got on with other dogs etcetc. And not just opinions based on what kind of breed they are (hunting dogs etc, because at the end of the day, evey dog was a hunting dog at one stage, before they were domesticated by people). Obviously every dog to some extent is "dangerous", and should never be left un attended with a child and I have a healthy respect for that. German Shepherds used to have a bit of a reputation for themselves, and I still frequently have people making a wide birth around us when I take my pup out for walks, but I know he wouldn't hurt a soul.
    Thanks heaps for everyone's stories about their bullies! They do sound like gorgeous but complex creatures.

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    I have a bully x, and she's a great dog. But she's a one person dog. She will acknowledge DP, as she has been on the scene for over ten years but I'm her master. And she won't play with any other animals, so socialising with other dogs is out of the question. She was chasing fully grown rottweilers off the beach at 12 weeks of age! I love my dog, but hate being constantly on the lookout for other animals when out for a walk. If another dog comes close, she'll bristle and then most likely attack. If that other dog come at her quickly and barking, then it's all on. Then again I have 2 cats and she doesn't do more than sniff them.

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    Yeah, fox terriers are still great little hunters, I've seen them run up trees to chase my cat and lots of people have them for family pets.
    BUT my experience with pigdogs is that the 'hunter' parts of them are bred back in as hard as possible and even when my bro only had one in the backyard I couldn't go in there by myself and either could anyone else.
    So if you choose a doggie NOT bred for pig or from a litter bred for hunting you should be fine.

    My cuz had a bully too, he was lovely but a one man dog too!

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    Some dogs have had most of the hunting instincts bred out of them and some have had them reinforced so there is a world of differance between the hunting instincts of a Papillon and a pig dog. I had a pig dog once. I fell in love with her so my parents let me keep her but she ended up chasing sheep which is a big no-no in a rural area. My parents gave her away instead of putting her down and the guy they gave her to used her for pigging. Six months later I got a phone cal from out vet to let me know he had just put my beautiful girl down after she was gored by a boar :sad: If I had fallen for a miniture poodle I would have saved myself a word of heartache.
    If you're going to let your DH take the family pet pigging be prepared for some nasty accidents and maybe premature death. If you look at any working pig dog you will notice that they are pretty battered.

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    We have a pure bred American Red Nose Pitty, and she is 100% family smoocher. Although she is hardly ever out with other dogs or people, she is friendly to everyone. We have only ever seen her rear up at another dog, who rushed at her in excitement. I trust her more with our children than our Kelpie. She is very tolerable with all dogs and people, including children of all sizes. She would be a couch potato if you let her, just anywhere that you are, she wants to be too. Yep, she's a wuss with the family, but very protective at the same time.

    I wouldn't think that you could have a dog that is both a 'hunting' animal and a 'family pet'. If I had a hunting dog I would feel very uncomfortable it being around my children, supervised or not, and it would have to live in a super secure enclosure (cage basically) at the far end of the yard away from the children.

    We got our dog as a young pup, and I think you can pretty much (but there are those that you couldn't) have whatever breed you like as a family dog, its just about how you bring them up. I have no idea what her parents were like. And if you google pics of these dogs, mine looks nothing like them, in terms of I think she is much more beautiful, and doesn't look quite so much like a meat head as these showy dogs.

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