Surely it's not the mcn's fault?

[Gigi]

i'm a bit further west than you, but we can also get very variable weather too.

the thing i think about, from when you put them down, to when they wake, it's a long time. temperatures always drop in the middle of the night too. So it has to be VERY hot before i use the sleeveless sleeping bag, or i use it in conjuction with a sleeved spencer. just so she's got herself covered for those middle of the night coldest parts. i love the sleeping bag, cos it zips up and she can't kick it off, so no matter how much wriggling goes on during hte night, it's like she has a soft cotton sheet over her ALL NIGHT, no matter what.

for your experiment - sounds like the two part system works best for your bub. i am surprised that you got four hours out of a cotton prefold and cover, that's excellent. Especially the NO LEAKS part!

if it were me, i would try a bamboo trifold and a MM fleece cover next. the bear bottoms and sugar peas mm covers have a high rise too, great for wriggly bubs.

can you stop using the BG for nights? it just doesn't sound like it's worth the grief of all that extra washing, if it ain't working for you, why use it? i'd save them for day time use instead.

with the cylinder roll thingy - how to use

• put the roll thingy in the cot or your bed, wherever baby sleeps.
• lay it flat
• roll, flat bit, roll
• get your baby ready for bed e.g in their night nappy and sleeping bag
• hold your baby and lower baby onto the gadget so that their body is on the flat bit
• the TOP of the rolls (trying to remember now, it's been so long), i think the thing is designed to be from their armpits to their thighs.

anyhoo, once they're on it, they can move their arms and legs easily, but rolling over is hard (whole idea of gadget, to keep them on their back, and protect them from SIDS.)

anyhoo, it's hard to explain in words, i coudl SHOW you in two secs IRL! hope you get it somehow thru my badly expressed words.

hth

[jshappers]

Thanks Gigi.
Nappies first... I think you're right, BG's are now for daytime use and I've got a bunch of bamboo prefolds so will definately continue the experiment. Did notice that the way I was doing them up left a little room for error too but am happy to keep an eye on that in daylight hours.
Just checked out the bear bottoms and they are damn cute! Wish I had have held my nurture nappies order another week, thank goodness for their flat rate postage. Have been reading up on wool and might give a sugarpea a go if I can get the right sizing otherwise I'll grab a fleece one... Can you tell I'm getting addicted?

Thanks for the cyclinder info, I do understand exactly what you mean and don't think I could have articulated any differently lol.

We're a bit of a re-use/recycle family so I was lucky enough to be given most of O's clothes and bedding. The downside of that is that I never really investigated wraps or sleeping bags and have found that most of the clothes we have he was either too big for (4.7kg at 2wks) or just the wrong shape (long and lean) to begin with.
Oh well, gives me lots more things to look up on the web when I find I just can't/don't want to/physically unable to leave the house.