Hi Childondaway,
I'll be watching this thread with interest...I have started to do some preliminary looking and am totally confused! I too liked the bugaboo but DH said 'no'.
I have gone and looked at a few, but not seriously (eg have not tried to fold them down etc), but my first impression was that may are made for someone taller than my height (164cm) as even with adjustable handles I could not seem to get them low enough to be comfortable - the P&T was in that category.
I have the Phil & Ted's V3 (or is it E3?) Sport with the doubles kit and its fantastic. It looks similar to the Dash Buggy (had to google to see a pic) but its probably a newer one than mine as I got mine about 2 yrs ago now.
I originally bought a single pram with 4 wheels but had to scrap it when I had my second DD as my first was only 18 months. I use my P&T pram all the time still as it comes in handy when my 3 and nearly 2 yr old are too tired.
I'll be using it for this baby but I'll also be using a baby carrier as I dont want to bump my DD1 out of the pram if she needs it.
I guess a good question is do you think you'll be going back for more kids soon after this one is born? I didn't think about that and now have 2 prams, one that is collecting dust in the garage.
Cheers,
Beck
PS. I'm about 164cm and have no problems with my pram and its height, the Sport one has adjustable handles as well.
I have the Phil & Teds sport buggy & love it! I'm 160cm tall & find it lovely to push. DH is 6' 4" & he can easily adjust the handle to suit him nicely.
I have had mine for almost 2 years & it has been a hard worker for DD & now being used for DS, DD is almost 4 & she still fits really well for when she gets tired.
I took it out the back, sprayed it with a hose & used a brush to clean it. Left it in the sun & it came up a treat! Fantastic pram.
Also my 73 yr old MIL pushes DS in it while taking a walk to the beach & she just adores the ease of it. You can turn the pram easily one handed etc
There are 2 things I would change on the P & T if I could....
To lay it down you have to unzip it, & zip it up to sit up. I dont like that much as it makes it difficult at times, especially as they get bigger/heavier.
I also dont like how the brake is so stiff, I usually end up using my hand to take the brake off. But with saying that, its a great strong brake that means the pram isn't going anywhere when its applied!
Overall I really like it. I dont think you will ever find a pram that is "perfect". To have a light pram (like the P&T) you have to put up with the zipper seats. To have the good suspension ones usually means you have to pull it apart to put in the boot etc (Like my emmaljunga, awesome pram for newborns but pain in the butt putting it in the boot! I've also seen mums pulling apart the bugaboo to put in their boot so you have the same thing there)
I think word of mouth recommendations is a great way to go, so asking on here is a good start but I strongly suggest you "test drive" the prams at the baby shop (folding, pushing, measuring to see if it fits in your car boot etc) before you decide. Remember you will be using it ALOT so it should be one that fits YOUR needs, not everyone elses.
Have fun choosing, it's so much fun when you get your pram home & start playing with it!!!
I had the Steelcraft Enigma 8 wheeler. It has been collecting dust in the shed since Noah was 3 months old.
I traded up for a secondhand Valco Runabout 1 which I thought was a dream.
I heard about the P&T and how much everyone loved theirs. When I got pregnant with this bean I made the decision that I would get it. I took ownership of my P&T apple green grafitti sport with doubles kit and I am in looooooooooooove. I am pretty sure my pram shopping has come to the end.
I absolutely adore my Beema Q Elite and am devestated to be getting rid of it but unfortunately it doesn't take a toddler seat so I'm stuck now with this one. I know it's hard to think of now (I know I certainly didn't, LOL!!!) but if you are playing to have more than one child think about a pram that will suit more than one child. The best thing is to go into pram shop and test drive them. Put them up, put them down, push around (with some weight in it), lift it up so you know how heavy it is and put it in your boot to make sure it fits and you can get it in and out. When you have a short list do some research on them. Get opinions and then go back again and look at your favourites. Take your time and do your research. Then search around for the best deal!! Best of luck!!
I've got the Enigma Steelcraft 8 Wheeler too, like LMS, but I loooove it and would highly recomend it.
It was not expensive- about $350, from what I remember. It layed back and 'tucked in' as a little cradle when ds was a newborn, and between the fully adjustable- from 90 degrees to flat- back, and the fold down and up foot rest, it is perfect for any stage as they get older- you can sit them up a little, or a lot, and then lay them down to sleep.
And the big bonus is, with all the zipper parts removed (like the back bit with the pocket, the fly shade and the under basket unclipped) it is now a perfect stroller for a toddler- which saved me having to buy a seperate stroller.
The only drawback as I see it is the wheels are not fantastic for steering, but it is much more stable than a 3 wheeler.
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