Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 18 of 22

Thread: I guess cheesecake is out...

  1. #1

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Rural NSW
    Posts
    6,975

    Default I guess cheesecake is out...

    Am feeling a bit perplexed regarding the soft cheese issue. What's the problem if it comes from an appropriately refrigerated unit, fully sealed with a good used-by date? People are saying feta is out... what about philadelphia cheese... that's soft. Cheesecake made using gelatine uses an uncooked soft cheese. I know it's a fine line between caution and over caution but I can't help feeling I'm being irresponsible if I don't stress over every mouthful. I also feel a little sorry for the first timers (pregnancies) out there being made to worry about something that has a very low chance of occuring (food poisoning) if common sense is used. Another danger is that they will not be as vigilant regarding food that are deemed "safe" so, for example.... they'll go and buy a hot chicken roll from a vendor who has a very low turnover and has them sitting there on low heat all day... she will think to herself "oh, can't have sushi... this is meant to be okay though" NOT! C'mon girls, if we're going to obsess about this issue then lets keep it within reason and not monitor every posting about food as a chance to whip us into a frenzy at the risk of missing real dangers.


  2. #2

    Default

    awww no cheesecake, had never even thought of that. It's my biggest AF craving. With first preg loved crabsticks, but gave them up. Now that I have discovered cheesecake, even though I probably shouldnt obsess, I will probably give it up when I fall.

    Helen

    Maybe I will lose some weight- hehehehe

  3. #3

    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Good ole NZ !!
    Posts
    1,870

    Default

    I have still eaten soft cheeses... I love Brie & Camembert.... but I only eat it if I have brought it & throw it out after 3 days..... At least you know how it has been stored..

    I have also deep fried crumbed brie at a resturant...

  4. #4

    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    293

    Default

    Cream cheese is fine, it's the brie and camembert etc that aren't.
    So that means it's a greenlight for cheesecake!

  5. #5

    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Ubiquity
    Posts
    9,922

    Default

    Ok when it comes to soft cheeses it goes like this...

    Pasturised is ok...

    I know the following cheeses are pasturised:

    King Island ie. their brie, double & triple cream *homer drool*

    Philidelphia spreadable and cream cheese in a block for making a cheesecake. So you can eat cheesecake providing it has been made with a pasturised cheese or is baked

    Hope that makes sense, I went through my first pregnancy not eating anything and being rather glum about it all, you can imagine my relief excitement and suprise when I found out I could still have some things I just had to be picky

    *hugs*
    Cailin

    *Edited to add: Some international cream cheeses aren't pasturised so please make sure you check the label before consumption

  6. #6

    Default

    OMG cheesecake is a possibility, you have made my day

  7. #7

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Rural NSW
    Posts
    6,975

    Default

    oh dear tulip... if it makes you feel any better I've been through 2 pregnancies and not avoided a thing. I still eat sushi but only from a particularly hygenic and popular outlet... most of my friends are the same and I've never heard of any cases of poisoning. My point was don't stress about WHAT you can or can't eat... stress about HOW it is manufactured and stored! Thankyou Cailin for pointing out that Brie and Camembert are safe as long as they are pasturised!

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    Sydney, NSW
    Posts
    3,352

    Default

    I too eat everything. Have had a fair amount of soft cheese because Dr said if it's pasturised it's fine, so have had brie and camenbert. Cheesecake is fine. I've had fetta. The only thing I haven't had is raw fish and oysters. Can't trust my local!! but really it does get a bit carried away. Especially when I say to Doc that I accidentally ate something (eg soft serve ice cream, smoked salmon etc ) and he says no worries!!!
    Just enjoy and don't worry too much. xo

  9. #9

    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Rural NSW
    Posts
    6,975

    Default

    All Australian cheeses are pasturised by law. Very rarely European cheeses are not.

  10. #10

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    11,171

    Default

    Awww Tulip you sound just like I did!

    Eating leftovers is ok as long as they are heated to piping hot. The heating will kill any bacteria as long as it is to piping hot. I continued with my leftovers for lunch at work but made sure they were super hot.

    I had the ham problem as well, I was worried about Christmas as we always have ham. I had a little bit but heated it up just in case.

    I was a bit funny with eggs as well, but that was my one naughty thing - I had a few fried eggs that weren't quite cooked all the way through 8-[

    I ended up eating a lot of fruit & yoghurt at work, I just made sure I got the little tubs of yoghurt & made sure they stayed cold the whole time. I made lots of salads, green & fruit. Ummm, muesli bars, homemade muffins, cruskits with vegemite & lettuce.

  11. #11

    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Ubiquity
    Posts
    9,922

    Default

    Pasturised as far as I know has been heated to get rid of any nasties like salmonella, e-coli & listeria. However there is no guarentee that unpasturised cheeses are clear of this if that makes sense...

    If I'm wrong can someone correct me please!

    I actually didn't know about the australian law! So there ya go, any cheese from australia is safe...and to think I've been spending big on only buying Kind Island...hmmm maybe I'll keep that one to myself and not tell Marc :whistle: J/K French cheeses as far as I know are the higher unpasturised ones...There's actually a big "cheese debate" about allowing aussie cheesemakers the right to make cheese from unpasturised milk. Apparently its only been recent that unpasturised international cheeses have been allowed on the market. Thanks Bathsheba for bringing the cheese law thing up as I had to go research it LOL for my own interest!

    You know what I can't wait for ham at Christmas as ham off the bone is the only ham I'd trust as I know its pregnancy friendly.

    *hugs*
    Cailin

  12. #12

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Mid North Coast NSW
    Posts
    2,504

    Default

    Tulip, i often had reheated leftovers when pg, because i had cooked it and reheated it myself i knew it was ok. i only did it the next day of course.

    i agree that you need to be careful, but not to get too worried about it if you slip up (i had soft serve ice creams a few times before i even remembered that i wasnt supposed to!!)

  13. #13

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Back in Brisvegas :)
    Posts
    2,048

    Default

    *L* I'd been so good about not eating soft serve icecream as I'm not really a fan, until I had a chocolate thickshake the other day and realised they'd made it with soft serve icecream anyway! oops.... #-o

    I think Bathsheba makes a great point though...just about any food could be dangerous if not cooked or stored/manufactured correctly. Perhaps it's wise not to stress so much about what foods specifically are no go; as just be careful about certain manufacturing methods that might make it a risk for listeria.

    With reference to deli meats (ham, assorted sliced meat etc), the biggest issue is really handling procedures in most supermarkets. It's not so much that ham itself is bad; it's just that their handling procedures (or lack thereof) can lead to cross contamination from other foods.

    Soft cheeses are not really a concern unless made from unpasturised milk...if you are a little concerned (even if you've read the label and know it's probably ok because it's an Australian cheese), just eat it in moderation.

    If you think about it, our mothers and their mothers didn't have the benefit of information about 'good foods' and 'bad foods' whilst pregnant. Yes, sadly some small amount of babies were probably affected by listeria but for the most part, all of us turned out ok didn't we? *L*

    **wishes she had baked cheesecake in the house**

  14. #14

    Join Date
    Oct 2004
    Location
    Back in Brisvegas :)
    Posts
    2,048

    Default

    Tulip - to be honest, I never even considered that concept. I LIVED on chocolate paddle-pops and Magnums during my morning sickness; not to mention copious amounts of buckets of icecream! *L* I never once considered it might be made with parts of egg. Surely the level of temperature it's frozen at would kill any potential germs?

  15. #15

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Dandenong Ranges
    Posts
    335

    Default

    Re Cold Meats - The midwife at my prelim antenatal class went through a hugh list of what not to eat and cold meat was one of them

    Though she did say if you get it freshly sliced for you and eat it the same day it is OK. I do this occasionally and it takes great

  16. #16

    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Mid North Coast NSW
    Posts
    2,504

    Default

    i never even knew ice cream had eggs in it!!! :-s

  17. #17

    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    11,171

    Default

    Not all icecream has egg in it.

  18. #18

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Dandenong Ranges
    Posts
    335

    Default

    Ladies - Some info on icecream - I work at Nestle Ice Cream and I have just checked with our Applications department.

    She is checking more info for me but said that not many products would have raw egg in it and it does. All products are pasturised and have to pass Quality checks so would have no problems with Listeria.

    I work here so I eat an ice cream every day

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •