safety of cooked chicken

[tenar]

If I roast a chook tomorrow (Saturday) and then take some leftovers for a picnic on Sunday, do you think it'll be safe for me to eat? It will have been thoroughly roasted until well cooked, and then stored in the fridge and a cooler until eaten.

My inclination is to guess that's OK, but I'm not certain. Any ideas?

[[M]umma[M]ia]

yeh i would eat it. im not sure if it would need to me reheated before hand (kills the nasties). leftovers are good i just try not to eat them if they have been sitting there for more than 24 hours.

[Possums]

Yeh I think I'd eat it.

Just another question...are cold meats that you buy in supermarkets packaged up ok to eat (ie ham slices etc)...I wouldn't eat them from a deli or whatever, but what about the packaged ones?

[[M]umma[M]ia]

i have steered clear of all cold meats (ham etc). just not worth the risk. i would rather wait. Tho if its cooked its fine. I have eaten pizza and things.. HTH

[tenar]

Seeing as Coles last week had a recall in Victoria (I think, I could be confused of the details) on packaged chicken, because it was found to have high count of listeria in it, I'd be very wary of any packaged meats, if I were you.

I think that if you take it and nuke it in the microwave it'll be fine, though, maybe a bit singed...

[[M]umma[M]ia]

Seeing as Coles last week had a recall in Victoria (I think, I could be confused of the details) on packaged chicken, because it was found to have high count of listeria in it, I'd be very wary of any packaged meats, if I were you.

yep thats right. But it wasnt in all the products. Only in the ones marked use by 7th october. they have all been taken off the shelves tho. When pregnant u should be careful of any meat. Also make sure u wash your fruit and veg throughly before u eat it.

[Karina]

I would eat leftovers if its just the next day and it has been in the fridge. I think just have a good look and smell of it to make sure its not a bit funky.

I also ate heaps of ham. Towards end of my pregnancy I had a huge obsession with toasted ham & cheese sandwiches!! So I used to go to the supermarket and get some packet cheese and packet ham and make a sandwich and toast it or microwave it. I always used to get the ham and cheese from the back of the fridge and try to get one with the longest expiry date.. I wouldnt eat deli ham or cheese though.

[diva det]

The choice is up to you what you want to do but FWITW- chicken and rice are high risk foods. You need to make sure that the chicken never goes above 4 degrees cel, even in the cool bag or above 65 degrees when you eat it hot! Also you need to make sure you cool it quick so it doesnt stay in the 'danger zone' temp for long.

Food safety victoria have a great website- check it out its full of info.

Personally i would steer clear, and have a vegemite sandwich- just to be on the safe side, but the choice is up to you.
But then again i stayed away from packaged sliced meats, and deli meats- there isnt much difference- its the large surface area that the meats have the problem- i.e shaved etc. There have been recalls on packaged mean for lysteria as well.

However if you are cooking the ham in say a toasted sandwich- you should be fine as the temp of the meat will get above 65 degrees and kill off the lysteria.

Its up to you completely and what you think is right for you- but good on you for wanting to make an informed decision.
take care and good luck


odette

[Indadhanu]

They say as long as its hot its fine, the heat kills listeria. Cold doesn't.

That said I ate cold roast chicken, it was a craving, and Jazz is fine. I also ate soft serve ice cream and deli ham. And raw egg in the way of cake batter lol

[satya]

Tenar - my doctor told me chicken that you cooked at home and cooled and refrigerated appropriately is fine to eat the next day but not after that. I was told not to do this if it was a cooked chook from a store as you don't know how fresh it was in the first place - OK to eat it hot but not when cool or hot or cold the next day. To take that theory a little further that of course means no chicken sandwich from a sandwich shop either.

Possums - packaged or deli meats carry the same listeria risk and should not be eaten cold during pregnancy regardless of where you buy them.

[Karina]

On the topic of chicken from a sandwich shop, would you eat Subway sandwiches?

Where I used to work, there was a Subway downstairs and I could always smell the bread cooing which made me want to eat subway. So all through the second half of my pregnancy I just ate subway all day.

[diva det]

sorry to disappoint but subways is a big no no!
Just as self serve and salad bars are high risk as well
Subway is yummy but . . .. .
You cant guarantee that the salads have been washed and stored properly- they are never covered when they apply the toppings
also no guarantee how long the meat products have been sitting there for, if they are stored at correct temp etc.
even if the roll is toasted, it doesnt get up to temp long enough to kill bacteria- if it ever does on the toppings

also you have to be careful of their dressings, esp the ceasar and mayo as most are made with raw egg.

Best to get some fresh parbake rolls from the supermarket, bake them yourself and cook the meat and wash the salad stuff yourself! A bit of work, but still yummo

what you choose to eat is entirely up to you what you feel comfortable with. I personally havent taken any un necessary risks- i would never forgive myself if something was wrong with our baby and i deliberately ate something high risk, but its all up to you. Most of the time you are fine to eat soft serve, deli meats, and even subway and most people can and are fine, but knowing the risks and weighing up what you feel comfortable to eat is up to you!