thread: christmas ham

  1. #1
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2008
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    christmas ham

    so I am craving ham like you would not believe!! I am way too much of a paranoid freak to eat any of the 'no no' foods, but I am ready to kill for a fresh ham sandwich!

    Does anyone know if I bought a fresh xmas ham on the bone, and ate it fresh the day I bought it and unwrapped it, would it be listeria safe? (if there is such a thing really) pleeeeease someone say yes lol.

    cheers

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Brisbane
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    I don't know, some people have said on other forums that it's safe, but others who have worked in various industries, say be more cautious..

    You can eat it hot obviously.

    I am avoiding any listeria risks, I have a friend who works at the Mater, she's a nurse and she strongly told me to avoid any potentially risky foods.

    But everyone has their own opinion.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Feb 2004
    Melbourne
    11,171

    Generally with a Christmas ham it is covered with a layer of skin & fat. If you peel that off & eat a few slices straight from the top, straight after it is cut then you will be fine. The skin & fat have protected the meat from any listeria germs, but ones it has been exposed to the air then you should steer clear. Of course prior to eating it, make sure it has been kept very cold & hasn't sat out for very long before it is carved. Also make sure you eat it right after carving so it's not sitting out in the warm air.

    This is how I did it for the three Christmas' that I was pregnant, under doctor's instruction from the first pregnancy

  4. #4
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    Jun 2003
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    What Sarah said Thank you for putting it so much better than I could have

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    Registered User

    Apr 2007
    SE QLD
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    ooooh! Goodie!

  6. #6
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2008
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    thank you

    dh works in the warehouse where we are getting the ham so i know it will have been stored correctly (well once he got it). yuummmmmm

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Mar 2007
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    oh yum, now I want some xmas ham!! I haven't felt like ham but once you mentioned xmas ham..... hmmm

    Another thread the last couple of days is also talking about a ham craving you're not alone!!

  8. #8
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2008
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    hehe i don't even particuarly like ham that much when not preg - but 40 weeks is a long time

    don't even talk to me about sushi, kebabs, brie, twiggy sticks, wine, mcflurry......

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Apr 2009
    Baldivis, WA
    111

    Ham straight off the bone is perfectly safe to eat.
    It's mostly ham (and other cold meats) that have been sitting in deli conditions that is the big no no.

  10. #10
    Registered User

    Mar 2009
    England (but moving back home to Oz next year!)
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    I eat cold ham all the time! Do they recommend that you don't eat ham in Australia? They say it is fine in the UK.

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    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Brisbane
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    Not on the NHS site they don't..

    Listeriosis - NHS Choices

    The listeria bacteria has been found in a range of chilled ‘ready-to-eat’ food, such as:

    * pre-packed sandwiches,
    * pâté,
    * butter,
    * soft cheeses such as Brie or Camembert or others with a similar rind,
    * soft blue cheese,
    * cooked sliced meats and
    * smoked salmon.

  12. #12
    Registered User

    Jun 2006
    Sydney
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    I have been craving a fresh ham sandwich for months. It's even gotten to the point where I've told DH that he has to have ham and fresh bread on hand all around my due date so he can make me a sandwich to take into hospital when I got into labour Mmmm Chrissy ham.....

  13. #13
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jan 2006
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    That's interesting, thanks for that Sarah. I just assumed you weren't supposed to (though ate it anyway)

  14. #14
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    The Hawkesbury
    4,505

    I got food poisoning from Christmas ham the year before last, so personally i would avoid it, and will be. Only other thing i can suggest is to cook one yourself, least you know how long it has been cooked for etc and eat it hot.

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Apr 2008
    Melbourne
    175

    Butter is a no no? What about salami and ham from safe way and then you cook it a bit before eating it?

  16. #16
    Registered User

    Oct 2010
    Brisbane
    711

    Well I just googled (googling is dangerous lol) but it does come up as there being outbreaks of Listeria bacteria in a couple of butter factories - one in Finland and one in the UK.

    I would just avoid deli meat anyway, as it has the preservative? sodium nitrate which isn't that good for us.

    As to the OP she knows where the meat is coming from.

    edited to say, this is something my Mum does, she doesn't keep butter in the fridge in Winter which is a very English thing to do..so that might be why there's a butter warning!
    Last edited by emc2; November 25th, 2010 at 09:42 PM.

  17. #17
    BellyBelly Member

    Aug 2008
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    718

    my mums friend grew up in the UK and they kept their butter in the cupboard all winter long too! ewwww imaging doing that here

  18. #18
    Registered User

    Nov 2010
    115

    every year for christmas my mum bakes us ham in her webber bbq, with the glaze and pineapple, soo soo good!