NT risk and having a CVS next week

[angelicdragon]

I tried to post this earlier but had computer issues and for some reason it showed a blank post. so here goes again, this is what was meant to show this morning when I posted...

Hi I just got a call from my OBs rooms to say he wants to see me at 4pm. I had the blood test done last week and the scan on Monday. my risk is 1:89.
age alone put me at 1:30 ...
my other pgs were Annabelle 1:143 and samuel was 1:552.
I have done a bit of reading and it seems DS babies have a higher hcg level which I did with my betas. on the scan on Monday his head measured 13w6, body was 12w6d and femur was 12w4d. By dating I should have been 12w2d.
am worried that having a larger head and shorter femur are a high indicator even though eh did have a nasal bone and all his fingers and toes looked ok.
has anyone else had a high risk or know of someone?
I am thinking of asking about the amnio. My DH isn't too sure and would just sit it out due to any m/c risk but I want to know.
DH is away too at a conference til Friday and only just got to the venue 3 hrs away when I got the call and then rang him.

help please
Judy

since then I have seen my OB.
He wants us to do CVS rather than amnio . he said the loss risk is the same for my age and the CVS gives a much more accurate result. we get the first result back in about 72 hours and then the rest in about a month after that... so I am booked in for 9:10am next Wednesday. If we do get a result showing a DS child then he will book us in with a paediatrician who will also monitor us for the rest of the pregnancy and beyond.
He said the scan results by themselves mean nothing, it is only by adding all 3 results together, age, scan and a high APPA (?) and hcg levels
He was pleased I think we decided on further testing although he did remind me we did stand a 1:88 risk of losing a normal child and that I could m/c anywhere up to 6-8 weeks after CVS or amnio due to membrane rupture. I guess I am only concerned really in that the placenta is on the rear wall of the uterus.
The Dr who does them is Peter Reynolds, the OB we saw on our first OB visit. He is lovely and I do trust him.
I keep in mind that Daniel survived the lions in the lions den so I hang onto hope that he will be ok and survive just fine.

I am hoping to hear from others who have had CVS as I am worried about it. My placenta is on the rear wall of the uterus and high up. I don't like needles as the best of times, then again who does.
thanks for any advice and thoughts
Judy

PS could a mod please delete my other topic headed "NT risk came back 1:89"
thank you

[*charmalea*]

i dont have any advice or anything , but i wish you and your family the best of luck and hope during this shaky time ... and a h&H preagnancy ..

[[M]umma[M]ia]

i too dont have any advice but wishu all the luck in the world.. hugs xox

[TreeTops]

I'm so sorry to hear you have this worry on your mind.

My thoughts are with you.

[Inanna]

Jude,
I posted a long post and BB went down!

I am sorry that you have this anxiety - I understand how tough this is. Sending you lots of support and love

Okay - So the u/s was detecting no abnormalities. That is a really good thing. Some of the things we look for are: nasal bone, some soft markers - cardiac (too early for this) kidney, brain cysts. The measurements fall within normal for gestation - even though they are a bit here and there that is within normal parameters. I understand concern you have re: head size - if there was no abnormality seen this really isn't a worry.

Your stats are still good given your age. Whilst to me you are a beautiful young thing - like myself... We can scare the beegeebees out of that lovely obstetric crew! Your age will have really had an impact of your ratio - so keep that in mind.

Women carrying a baby with a chromosomal abnormality (not just trisomy 21) often have high free BHCG and low PAPPA. But you can and be "normal" also.

Your risk of miscarriage is lower than your risk of chromosomal abnormality - but if your specialist has good stats - your chances of miscarriage are much lower. I haven't had a CVS - I have had 2 amnios. So I cannot give you a personal experience but I have seen a lot and most women claim it to be uncomfortable - but it is fairly quick - prepare to feel very emotional and make sure you have a loving hand to hold.

We are here to support you as you navigate this time. My thoughts and prayers are with you my love.

[DaintreeDream]

Hi Judy,

I am 26 and I had a DS risk of 1:3 with my daughter - I had an amnio done and my daughter does not have DS. My daughter does have other medical issues, however her NT fold is large and that is what bought the results back as such a high risk, now that she is born you can see a fat roll on the back of her neck, kinda like a double chin but on the back, nobody notices unless I point it out though and she is slowely growing into it.

Do not stress yourself too much about the risk that you have been given,it is just a screening test, I stressed myself out so much, and it was all for nothing as she is just fine, even if the results come back as having DS I know I would have loved her regardless and there is so much support out there.

We decided to find out the sex of the baby from the Amnio, it was a bit of good news that we knew we would hear and something to look forward too, I am not sure if this is an option for you but it is something to think about.

I wish you the best of luck , if you ever need to chat at all please not hesitate to contact me.

Deanne.

[AnyDream]

Hi, I had a risk of 1:41 and had the CVS procedure done. In our case it was important to get a result as soon as possible as my DH was about to leave for 4 months overseas. I felt the testing was necessary because if we'd been having a downs baby I wanted time to prepare myself. From the reading I did it seemed that, all other factors aside, the risks for CVS and amnio were probably about the same (given that a percentage of miscarriages after CVS may well have occured at that point without the CVS given the timing, kwim?).

I found the CVS procedure very scary although that was partly because the OB who did it had zero bedside manner, although she was highly respected for her work - the sonographer was lovely and reassuring and we also had a supportive genetic counsellor that we saw prior to the procedure as well as afterwards for the results. Apparently my placenta was in some strange position and it was quite difficult for her to get to it, so it was more painful than expected, but all was well and we now have a healthy, chromosomally "normal" one year old daughter.

Try to surround yourself with whatever support you need at this time. The million what-ifs that can go through your head at this time is what makes it so stressful. Try to distract yourself by spending time with positive people and doing things that you enjoy. Good luck.

[sqeak55]

I tried to post this earlier but had computer issues and for some reason it showed a blank post. so here goes again, this is what was meant to show this morning when I posted...

Hi I just got a call from my OBs rooms to say he wants to see me at 4pm. I had the blood test done last week and the scan on Monday. my risk is 1:89.
age alone put me at 1:30 ...
my other pgs were Annabelle 1:143 and samuel was 1:552.
I have done a bit of reading and it seems DS babies have a higher hcg level which I did with my betas. on the scan on Monday his head measured 13w6, body was 12w6d and femur was 12w4d. By dating I should have been 12w2d.
am worried that having a larger head and shorter femur are a high indicator even though eh did have a nasal bone and all his fingers and toes looked ok.
has anyone else had a high risk or know of someone?
I am thinking of asking about the amnio. My DH isn't too sure and would just sit it out due to any m/c risk but I want to know.
DH is away too at a conference til Friday and only just got to the venue 3 hrs away when I got the call and then rang him.

help please
Judy

since then I have seen my OB.
He wants us to do CVS rather than amnio . he said the loss risk is the same for my age and the CVS gives a much more accurate result. we get the first result back in about 72 hours and then the rest in about a month after that... so I am booked in for 9:10am next Wednesday. If we do get a result showing a DS child then he will book us in with a paediatrician who will also monitor us for the rest of the pregnancy and beyond.
He said the scan results by themselves mean nothing, it is only by adding all 3 results together, age, scan and a high APPA (?) and hcg levels
He was pleased I think we decided on further testing although he did remind me we did stand a 1:88 risk of losing a normal child and that I could m/c anywhere up to 6-8 weeks after CVS or amnio due to membrane rupture. I guess I am only concerned really in that the placenta is on the rear wall of the uterus.
The Dr who does them is Peter Reynolds, the OB we saw on our first OB visit. He is lovely and I do trust him.
I keep in mind that Daniel survived the lions in the lions den so I hang onto hope that he will be ok and survive just fine.

I am hoping to hear from others who have had CVS as I am worried about it. My placenta is on the rear wall of the uterus and high up. I don't like needles as the best of times, then again who does.
thanks for any advice and thoughts
Judy

PS could a mod please delete my other topic headed "NT risk came back 1:89"
thank you