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thread: Swine flu vaccine?

  1. #19

    Oct 2008
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    Thanks girls, sounds like you all agree with me.

    Don't think I'll be getting it.

    Sue x

  2. #20
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
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    I dont think that the vaccine is old enough for there to be enough evidence to say that it will not be detrimental to pg women...
    i agree how can they say it wont be harmful to pg women if not tested on them? hrmm what are they testing it on???

  3. #21

    Oct 2008
    2,880

    Don't think they are testing at all!!

    It would be interesting to see what research has been done on the effects of other flu vaccines on pregnant women.

  4. #22
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    Jun 2007
    Forster NSW
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    I will be discussing this with my GP on Wed... I am very reluctant to get any kind of vaccine during preg, but I do worry a lot as I work and live in a very high risk situation. We run a holiday park and have tourists from all over the world coming and going on a daily basis and come Christmas it is only going to get worse. We live on site so it's not as if it's only exposure for a few hours a day.

    I really do not want to get it, but I am leaving it up to my GP to decide, I in no way want to take any risks, either way.

    What a pickle!!!!

  5. #23
    Registered User

    Aug 2007
    Gold Coast
    626

    I'm not normally so adamant about anything but I will not be getting this... Maybe we should ask the filidamide (SP?) babies if they think untested drugs in pregnancy is a good idea... They wouldn't know of any posible side effects for years and then it's way too late and what do the authorities say... Ooops

  6. #24
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Nov 2005
    Langwarrin. Victoria
    1,654

    there is a very interesting video on you tube. It is an interview with one of the leading immunology experts in the US stating why he will not be giving it to his family......real eye opener it was when someone in the front line is rejecting the vaccine.

    In my opinion the risks of contracting side effects from the vaccine are far greater than the risk of contracting swine flu so i will not be getting it.

  7. #25
    Registered User

    Mar 2009
    Soon to be sunny BRISVEGAS!!!!!
    681

    Hi,

    I wont be getting it, I just keep thinking of that anti nausea one they got MANY years ago that caused problems....It just freaks me out too much to do that to bubs, but Ill get it as soon as she is out.....Id rather it only affect me and Id hate to pass it to her if I did get it postpartum...

    Glad to see I am not the only person opposed to getting something that imo has been rushed through...How can they test it over time if there has been no time lapsing???

  8. #26
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
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    I'm not going to get it either, it is just too big of an unknown, the possible long term effects. It seems, though, that DH and I are the only ones to feel that way in the circles we travel. I work in long day care, and we going on a cruise in 2 weeks, and everyone from co-workers to family to Ob are all pushing me to get it. My GP is the only one who isn't pushy and just gave me tips on lessening the chances of infection etc.

    To each their own....

  9. #27
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    Jul 2009
    Riding it out...
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    melbel do you have a link for the you tube vid? I'd like to see it or can you remember what its called?

    And I won't be getting the vax too many unknowns can't possibly have tested for long term effects when the vax is only weeks old!

  10. #28
    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Nov 2005
    Langwarrin. Victoria
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  11. #29
    Registered User

    Jul 2009
    Riding it out...
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    Thanks melbel

  12. #30
    Registered User

    Oct 2006
    home sweet home.
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    I won't be getting it for the reasons you guys have mentioned.

    Don't plan on being a guinea pig for anyone.

    I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow and I know she is going to suggest it but my answer will be a big fat no.

  13. #31
    Registered User

    Dec 2006
    In my own private paradise
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    am i the only person that finds it amusing that the myths debunking was paid for by the pharmaceutical company???

  14. #32
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    Jul 2009
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    am i the only person that finds it amusing that the myths debunking was paid for by the pharmaceutical company???
    I did notice that too! I disregarded most of that article.

  15. #33
    Registered User

    Sep 2006
    the mulberry bush
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    i haven't even considered getting it and can't really grasp why people would when it doesn't protect against the next strain of swine flu?

  16. #34
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    Jul 2009
    Riding it out...
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    Another good point Emma, if the strain does mutate and that's when it becomes more virilant then this vax won't protect against the new mutated one.
    That's my understanding, but I guess I could be wrong?? Please correct me if I am anyone?

  17. #35
    Registered User

    Jun 2006
    Where the sun shines brightly!
    906

    No Way

    Definitely a no here.
    The new swine flu vaccine contains thimerosal as a preservative, which is 50% mercury by weight. Mercury is a toxic heavy metal, and for this reason we are advised not to consume tuna and other types of fish whilst pregnant as the mercury content can harm the developing baby. Sure, it may be a small amount of mercury, but in my opinion there is no safe level of mercury - this substance simply should not enter the human blood stream at all.
    Because of the controversy surrounding thimerosal's link to autism, it has been taken out of many childhood vaccines, so I cannot understand why on earth they would be using it as a preservative in this new vaccine and recommending it to pregnant women when the risks of mercury intake have been so well documented.The substance offers no benefit to the human body whatsoever, and is used primarily as a preservative to prolong the shelf life of the vaccine and hence prevent loss of profit for pharmaceutical companies.
    I am a strong advocate for natural medicine and building the immune system via natural means, so my view is evidently biased against pharamcuetical companies and drugs in general, but it is my honest opinion that profit, rather than health is their main driving force. The vaccine has not been sufficiently tested (and in the trials that were conducted the adverse reactions were significant enough to make the mainstream press) therefore and I am not willing to offer my body or baby up as a guinea pig for this scaremongering experiment which is set to line the pockets of a few already very rich people.
    But hey - each to their own......

  18. #36
    Registered User

    Mar 2008
    the world
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    Definitely a no here.
    The new swine flu vaccine contains thimerosal as a preservative, which is 50% mercury by weight. Mercury is a toxic heavy metal, and for this reason we are advised not to consume tuna and other types of fish whilst pregnant as the mercury content can harm the developing baby. Sure, it may be a small amount of mercury, but in my opinion there is no safe level of mercury - this substance simply should not enter the human blood stream at all.
    Because of the controversy surrounding thimerosal's link to autism, it has been taken out of many childhood vaccines, so I cannot understand why on earth they would be using it as a preservative in this new vaccine and recommending it to pregnant women when the risks of mercury intake have been so well documented.The substance offers no benefit to the human body whatsoever, and is used primarily as a preservative to prolong the shelf life of the vaccine and hence prevent loss of profit for pharmaceutical companies.
    I am a strong advocate for natural medicine and building the immune system via natural means, so my view is evidently biased against pharamcuetical companies and drugs in general, but it is my honest opinion that profit, rather than health is their main driving force. The vaccine has not been sufficiently tested (and in the trials that were conducted the adverse reactions were significant enough to make the mainstream press) therefore and I am not willing to offer my body or baby up as a guinea pig for this scaremongering experiment which is set to line the pockets of a few already very rich people.
    But hey - each to their own......
    Hear hear!!! I am also very suspicious when 'experts' can apparently tell us exactly when a virus will hit. Sounds more like their profit forecasts have told them when it should hit.
    From what I gather not many people have actually been tested to see if they actually have swine flu. Alot of people I know of have been told they have it purely from the symptoms, which are often exactly the same as normal flu (which yearly kills more people than swine flu has) It seems it is often diagnosis from assumption which is mightily profitable to the company that designed the swine flu vaccine as we can never be sure how many people actually are getting swine flu and not just seasonal flu. With no clear knowledge of the actual spread of swine flu you have the perfect environment for mass fear and panic and then tons of lovely money being made!!! I would love to know how many dodgy handshakes brought about this very profitable deal for the pharmaceutical companies.

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