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    Jun 2006
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    Exclamation SIDS book that will blow your mind....

    Just ordered my copy of the book The Infant Survival Guide: Protecting Your Baby From the Dangers of Crib Death, Vaccines and Other Environmental Hazards from Amazon after reading a friends copy. It's written by a respected US MD (medical doctor) and the renowned Dr Mercola - who runs the internets most googled natural health website. I had always secretly suspected alot of what is written in the book, but by golly... this book will BLOW YOUR MIND!!! I had no idea about the extent to which red tape surrounds this issue. You will never look at a red nose (Red Nose Day) the same way again....

    If I could afford it - I would literally drop a copy of this book into every letterbox in the country - make that the world. Every parent deserves to have this information. I feel so sick, upset and angry after reading it that I felt compared to share. All information is, of course, backed up by peer reviewed medical literature and studies.
    I dearly hope I don't upset anyone as that is certainly not my intention. As a strong advocate for health and freedom to make informed choices, I just wish to share my knowledge.....

    Love and light,

    Jellybean.

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    Jan 2009
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    Hi JellyBean that book sounds good, I am awear of mattresses and vaccination being causes of sids, what other things does the book say to avoid? I was told years ago that Japan practically eradicated sids just by raising the age to 2 years for vaccination when the little ones immune system is developed, does the book mention that?

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    Apr 2009
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    So give us some more details. If it's so vital, surely we need to know now, not when we buy the book?

    So many have the solutions to our ails fears and troubles, so long as we pay for it.

    I mean no disrespect from my post, it's a sensitive area and I am uncomfrtable with others making money out of it.

    Does the author have a website or free access to his ideas?
    Last edited by Visitor6; February 22nd, 2010 at 06:12 PM.

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    Jan 2006
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    So... pro co-sleeping or anti? To what age?

    What do we do about illnesses? Vaccinations?

    Does it agree with me? Because that's the only reason I buy parenting books!

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    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Jul 2008
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    Would like more info too...

    cherished1, that info about vaccinations is very interesting. I won't be starting DS on any until he's 2 for similar reasons, but I never knew about the relation to sids...

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    Feb 2009
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    Not to rain on any parades but I do think that the recently reported breakthrough in serotonin levels of SIDS angels does warrant further investigation and therefore further funding.

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    Nov 2005
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    The thing with seratonin levels is that seratonin is measured after the infant has passed away. I don't believe the Japanese and other south-east Asian countries that don't have SIDS are just genetically blessed, because seratonin is related to stress, or the absence of it. These other cultures have co-sleeping as the norm and don't have a culture of baby-separation that we have (cots, prams, glorified bouncinettes, outsourced childcare etc) - these aren't genetic factors, they are cultural ones.
    I have no idea what this book says about it, and I hope it does explore these things - I'd read it if it did! Because the discourse about SIDS in this country is like a dog chasing its tail, especially since the new research findings came out - i.e. what can we give to babies to boost their seratonin levels/screening for low levels/'finally there is a physiological reason for it'.
    I'm not saying that SIDS is caused by parents, I'm saying that lowered seratonin is a characteristic of our children here in Oz because of how maternal nurses etc say we should do things WRT sleeping.
    Research has also shown that co-sleeping babies have their breathing regulated by the CO2 from the mother's breathing - it seems to trigger the brain's centre for taking a breath when an infant goes a while without taking a breath in. You can't get that when you're not sleeping near your child.
    Our culture places a lot of importance on parental independence of children, disguised as training babies to be independent, and a lot of women dont' want to deal with the comments and judgments if friends etc find out they co-sleep, so they don't. Let's face it, the running commentary when you DO follow the prevailing parenting trends is bad enough, let alone when you do things 'differently', so I can understand when parents just go with the 'conventional wisdom'.
    I think the only way to avoid lowered seratonin levels is to practice parenting that enhances physical closeness to baby - baby-wearing, co-sleeping, breastfeeding (shown to enhance emotional wellbeing via the 'feel-good' receptors in the brain being stimulated by neural pathways around the lips during sucking on a breast in various research papers I came across a few years ago) - and not by injections of it (if there is such a thing).
    As I said, I don't know the contents of the book the OP is talking about. I CAN recommend, for a read on the physical benefits of a tactile relationship with baby, the book by Sharon Heller called "The Vital Touch", which talks about the psychosocial and biological effects of various types of 'touching' for babies and mothers. SIDS is a topic in there, too
    I just feel that talking about this kind of parenting is taboo when discussing SIDS, as talking about breastfeeding seems to be taboo to expectant mothers because of the 'softly softly' approach that benefits no-one.
    Also, if Australian health authorities started advocating more tactile parenting, there'd be a lot of baby-product companies crying foul - it's a huge industry when you think about it. Separated parenting is our norm, and it's not working for us
    Two cents worth.
    I would very much like a precis on the contents of this book - as SB said, if it's important it needs to be freely disseminated!

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    May 2008
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    i agree mayaness...people dont talk about it enough so they dont get judged or offend anyone, but the facts speak volumes. Noone can blame any single factor for sids, but i have read alot about possible contributors. Its called COT death for a reason! i think i read another post on here at some point about that, if there was a thing called 'chair death' we wouldnt sit our babies in a chair for 8-10 hours at a time, would we!? Like others have said, In Asian countries...Japan etc...SIDS cases are very low, and co-sleeping is the norm.

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    BellyBelly Member

    Oct 2008
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    If you search online for the title of the book there is a preview read on Amazon of the first few pages. I had a quick look and I am a bit dubious about the information. I tend to trust the SIDS and Kids Australia website because they do all the statistical analysis and work with families who experience this trauma. This is the response of SIDS and kids to the toxic gas theory which seems to be a theme in the book: http://www.sidsandkids.org/documents...nStatement.pdf

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    Jul 2005
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    Re: SIDS book that will blow your mind....

    I can't give "Rep" on my phone so I just want to say (as a co sleeping mum of 3 live children) that your post was fantastic Maya! Well said

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    Apr 2008
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    I think there is always risks associated, with both co and cot sleeping. You have to weigh up the risks and benefits, dependant on your own circumstances. Iknow for me personally, the risks associated with SIDS and co-sleeping with DD were far outwieghed by the very really risk of developing severe PND, exasperated by sleep deprivation (we get more sleep in bed together. I don't handle sleep dep very well and had PND bordering on pyshcosis after ds was born, made much worse by getting up out of bed every hour and a half for the first six months of his life).

    Just like any other issue, it is incredibly valuable to know all the info and all your options. You put what you know with what you need, and do what you think is right.

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    Apr 2009
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    I think there was a thread a while back - I can't recall what or where... that made the distinction between SIDS & suffocation as two different things.
    A lot of the risk factors involving couches, sofas, and even co-sleeping in beds - are taking into account babies who were accidentally suffocated by their parents, sometimes with alcohol or drug use as a factor.
    I think the subject of that particular thread was that co-sleeping when practised safely & properly actually reduces SIDS risk?

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    Jun 2006
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    Hi all, sorry for the delayed response.
    Firstly - I also agree with you wholehearedly Mayaness - and personally i find it a little offensive that we are told not to co-sleep with our children. I can't imagine how snooty we must sound to those people from less-developed nations who co-sleep with their babies and children because of culture, and also simply because they cant afford (let alone have access to) the pretty little bassinets and expensive cots that are the norm for us.
    The book is NOT anti Co-sleeping.
    The book is anti-mainstream medical establishment refusing to accept evidence-based research that strongly links (aka proves) the cause of SIDS (toxicity), whilst simultaneously perpetuating the apparent myth (and deep down in my soul I have always suspected it was a myth) that SIDS has no known cause, and preying apon the fear and concsience of parents in order to continue their multi-million-dollar profitable campaign each year for their groundbreaking 'research'. Where is the $$$ going??!!

    We have men (and women!) walking on the moon since the 1970's, and we have sattelites orbiting the planet right now, and yet they expect us to seriously believe that they can't find a cause for why babies keep dying in their beds? Nonsense. These people do not deserve our money for their research that brings forth earth shattering information like - 'sleep babies on their back' hmpfftt. Myself, and (as i have now learned) many others out there do not believe they actually want to find a cause. So long as they can keep this silly charade going they might as well keep making big bucks from a naive and trustful public.
    So, I think its time to take the matter into our own hands, and listen to those few individuals (true researchers, I believe) who are working their butts off against a sea of animosity (& money and white-coat power) in order to provide us parents with substantial sense-making information which can truely save lives.

    I will be back in a minute to elaborate more- have to get DS lunch!! LOL.

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    Feb 2009
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    evidence-based research that strongly links (aka proves) the cause of SIDS (toxicity)
    My neice had a brand new mattress in a brand new crib using brand new linen in a brand new dress - all in a near new house.

    I simply cannot see how toxicity could have played any part in her passing. My sister is OCD about germs and cleanliness. She wouldn't even let my kids stay in the same room as her kids when we stayed with her.

    And considering these toxic gasses "cannot be detected in post mortem exams" - its hard to called it proven.

    My kids however have slept on my well used mattress. Daytime in their second hand cots. I am living in a house built in the 50s!

    NONE of that can account for the babies who have passed from SIDS in car seats and their mothers arms.

    That is WHY they are still researching. Because those cases contraindict a great deal of accepted folklore. 95% may pass in their bed yes, but the 5% that don't have to have that variable explained. The most logical one is that babies spend more time sleeping and most are put in their bed to do that.

    It is like the statistic that most car accidents happen less than 5kms from your home. It is not because of any other reason but that most driving is done within 5km of your home! If people stopped using cots because of the cot death term and started using prams, before long it would shift the problem to prams.

    From what I have read of the book it makes it sound like preventing SIDS is as easy as buying a new mattress every time you have another baby. I only wish it were true because then my niece would still be with us today!

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    Apr 2009
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    It was my understanding that one of the main concerns / causes of 'toxic gasses' was NEW mattresses and bedding - with the plastics and chemical fumes?

    I certainly won't be vaccinating til 2 years.

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    Oct 2005
    A Nestle Free Zone... What about YOU?
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    I haven't of course read this book & I want to acknowledge & empathise the pain and confrontion that may be felt by those that have lost a child or loved a child that was lost to SIDS...

    Inertia I also am not sure about the "proven toxicity" & I am very interested to learn more about this book. However, I will share some of what I do know & my own personal experiences.

    Firstly a new house is known to be far more "toxic" than an old one! This is because many of the materials that are used commonly to manufacture homes emit gases... Floor polishing, painting, the cabinetry are all known to emit toxic gases. Even lounge suites especially those that have beeen treated with stain proofing etc.

    We know that these gases can trigger autoimmune responses in adults and children - so it does make sense that the same could happen (to my way of thinking) to a baby.

    I personally had four children & then began to lose baby after baby after baby. It was discovered it was due to an autoimmune response & I had developed an "antiphospholipid like" illness... We know there is often a trigger for this. Also we know that often it occurs after someone has built a new house...

    Of course it would be erroneous and rash (excuse the pun! ) to lay all of the reasons at the feet of these toxic emissions. However, there is enough concern that it raises lots of eyebrows. This chemical is formaldehyde and it is emitted from particle board, wood panel products etc. If you look around the average new home there are a LOT of these toxins being emitted. This is to name but one. But I believe it to be a big offender....

    Many excited new parents buy new particle board furniture, recarpet and paint... These, unless a toxic free alternative is used are all carcinogens and toxic...

    So, a new environment isn't necessarily a safer one...

    The link with formaldeyde emissions and SIDS is not new - it's been suspected for a long time... As with other childhood and adult cancers & autoimmune issues. The rise in autoimmune disease has been substantial - some argue it can be related back to the introduction of the particle board products being used largely in house building and furniture building. Formaldehyde emissions from carpets, paints to name a few...

    So, just wanted to add what I do know about this...

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    My neice had a brand new mattress in a brand new crib using brand new linen in a brand new dress - all in a near new house.

    I simply cannot see how toxicity could have played any part in her passing. My sister is OCD about germs and cleanliness. She wouldn't even let my kids stay in the same room as her kids when we stayed with her.

    And considering these toxic gasses "cannot be detected in post mortem exams" - its hard to called it proven.

    toxicity comes from more then just mattresses

    immunisations are full of toxic substances....and babies get a hell of a lot of it in their first year of life http://poisonevercure.150m.com/ingredients.htm]Toxic Ingredients
    __________________________________________________ ___
    Birth
    *Hep B:

    1–2 months
    *Hep B:

    2 months
    * DTaP: Diphtheria, tetanus, and acellular pertussis vaccine
    * Hib: Haemophilus influenzae type b vaccine
    * IPV: Inactivated poliovirus vaccine
    * PCV: Pneumococcal conjugate vaccine
    * Rota: Rotavirus vaccine

    4 months
    * DTaP
    * Hib
    * IPV
    * PCV
    * Rota

    6 months
    * DTaP
    * Hib
    * PCV
    * Rota

    _________________________________________________

    Im not posting this to scare anyone from immunizations, but simply to recognize that they do infact contain substances are toxic, so we need to be aware of the dangers and make informed decisions for our children and minimize the risk factors if we possibly can.


    I have immunized my kids btw... i just waited until they started school.

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    We have men (and women!) walking on the moon since the 1970's, and we have sattelites orbiting the planet right now, and yet they expect us to seriously believe that they can't find a cause for why babies keep dying in their beds? Nonsense.
    Are you kidding me? You really believe that because people can walk on the moon we should have the answers to everything in life? Yes i agree that sometimes vaccine companies can push their products with more than just our babies well being in mind, but saying that researchers don't really want to find a cause for SIDS is drawing a pretty long bow IMO.

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