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M2C- I really hope things are OK...what an awful time you've been going through... my thoughts go to you. You FS does not sound at all understanding which must add to the stress. As for the ectopic...I really hope not. (you can have a sac in your uterus and have an ectopic, but usually there is a lot of pain and cramping with an ectopic).
I hope it was just too early to see anything at the scan.:pray: and everything comes up just fine
Bel- wow you are nearly out of the first trimester! so glad you are in a better place now
Janie..thanks for the nice wishes
everyone else...hope things are going along smoothly for you
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hi girls
and sorry no time for personals (off to play lunch lady at the school canteen for the last time :dance:) Just wanted to pop in and say hello and i have been reading but havent had much time to post as what was suppose to be the end of the chrissi rush last week is dragging on :doh:. My FIL has been sick and we were told he wouldnt make it but thankfully hes pulled through and doing really well, which is great.
M2C: just wanted to send loads of gentle cyber hugs and i can only reiterate what the other girls have said, stay positive (as hard as that is) and we are all thinking of you!
Well catch you all soon, take care :grouphug:
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UPDATE:
Ok fs just rang and said that my levels are still rising, saturday they were 5257 and this morning there 5900. fs doesnt want to wait till wednesday to do scan, he wants to do it tomorrow and he said in a stupid voice " well we better see something tomorrow"
i am scared :crying: and i dont know what to do
i have done so much research over the weekend with people that are experiencing the samething as i am and they waited for 2 weeks before having another scan and they found a baby with a healthy little heartbeat. i am worried that if we dont see any change tomorrow he is going to want to operate or d&C or something like that, but i am worried that we wouldnt of given it enough time, its only been 4 days since the last scan.
but then if i dont go with his advise and i come home and a couple of days later i end up in hospital cos its eptopic, i will be upset cos i have allowed the damage that an eptopic can cause cos i didnt listen to the professional ykwim?
oh god help i need advise i dont know what to do!!!!
do you think much would of changed in 4 days?? what happens if the scan tomorrow shows no sign of eptopic and also no change in the sac, what do i do then???
if it was eptopic wouldnt i be in some sort of pain by now?? or have some sort of sign that something isnt right??? i have no pain or discomfort and i have no cramps or bleeding, everything feels fine.
oh sh*t i just want this night mare to be over, i am tired and i dont know how much more physically or mentally i can take.
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if you were measuring five weeks at last scan, you should be 5w 4 days by tomorrow - at that point, you should see a heartbeat on an internal scan - at the least, you'd see fetal pole etc. they definitely should be able to see more - i would think at this stage the scan would be able to confirm the progress for you one way or another
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Hi ladies
Wow this is a very busy thread ATM!
M2C - I just had to make you the top of my list of ladies to respond to. I support what everyone else has said, maybe it is just too early. I can't speak from experience with these things hun but my thoughts and prayers are with you. Hope the bt shows your levels continuing to rise :pray:
BG - you poor thing - 24/7 MS and nightmares. You must be exhausted. Is there anything herbal that is safe for you to take to help you sleep. I remember my chiro told me about a pg lady who was going through an ugly divorce and he had her on Blackmore's Passioflora (sp?) tablets throughout the whole pregnancy to help with stress and sleeping. Maybe you can look into it if it continues?
HM - you are such an inspiration to be so calm. I had a major panic attack today because I have had a few days of basically no symptoms so needed to buy a HPT while on my lunch break and did it in the toilet at work. Luckily it was a BFP and I was so relieved... I think I need some of your calmness. If only it could be sent over the net ;) Oh and 3 months on Boxing Day - what a great gift!
TL - good luck with moving hun. It is never fun but especially not fun when pg and just before Christmas as well. Hope it is all calm and serene at your house! Hope the checkup went well.
Nixon - the calm birth class is something that I think I should definitely look into. Is it only run in Sydney? Do they do weekend classes? What a reassurance it must be to feel so confident about the whole birthing process.
Bel - you are also sounding so positive and confident. Maybe it will start rubbing off on the rest of us all of the confidence that is going around.
FG - hope the next 8 months flys for you too.
AFM - as I posted above, I had to do a panic HPT at lunch time just to check. Yep, still pg, so that is a relief. I know I should be happy about the lack of symptoms but this all seems so surreal at the moment, and we have made major plan changes to our wedding (which was going to be 22 August 09 - clearly that won't work!) to now the end of February. GP visit is tomorrow morning so hopefully I will have bt results tomorrow afternoon, which will make me feel a lot better to know the levels etc. and have some idea of where our journey will take us next.
Anyway, must jump in the shower before dinner. A big hi :loveshower: to all that I didn't get to for personals, this thread is so busy I can't keep up!
Take care all
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Hi M2C
Our posts overlapped. You must be beside yourself with worry. BG's advice sounds very sensible and your levels have continued to rise. And remember, you can always ask for a second opinion if you feel like you are being forced down a road you are not ready to take. My thoughts and prayers are with you hun :pray::pray::pray:
xx
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Hi Ladies -
M2C - I support what all the other ladies have said and will be sending lots of :pray: to you. Take care.
Bel - great to hear you are doing well and the twin bubbas are fine also. The 23rd seems so far away but only 8 sleeps to go !
Chez67 - good luck with your GP tomorrow and good for you for doing the HPT again today, if it makes you feel better - go for it :)
HM - you always have such interesting posts, I love reading them !
Nixon - I'm going to look into the Calm Birthing as at the moment we don't really have a plan or strong opinion on the birthing but the calm birth sounds like it might suit DH and I.
TL - good luck with the move tomorrow - hope it goes well and you get settled in soon.
Huge :bellyrubs: to everyone else.
AFM - DH is jetting his way to Chicago so it is me and the pooch for 3 weeks! The house is so quiet without him and I am already talking to the dog constantly :)
MS was mild today so hoping that what I read about it starting to taper at 11 weeks is true - sorry for BG that you still suffer so terribly with it.
Take care,
LNB
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my ms did start to taper - right on 11 weeks - but it's still hanging around now enough to drive me batty - it's not "omg where's the bucket" status very often any more - but enough to bug me and make daily life so much more difficult
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Oh dear M2C..what a time for you. Depending on each and every bub and moments in their development hun...4 days can mean a major growth spurt or not much at all. Like BG said you should be able to see some change. At the end of the day hun, i would have the scan like he said but he can not under any circumstances make you go to Op or D&C without your consent. You choose this so the power is with you no matter how much he might bully. Unless of course there is an emergency but it sounds like that won't be the case. As for Ectopic, am a bit confused to what date you are at...you would expect to be in pain by 6 weeks. 6-8weeks depending on where the ectopic is...and how much space it has to grow before upsetting things and rupturing.
You are doing so well and try not to get ahead of yourself. One step at a time and one day at a time. It is so so hard babe but you can do this for your bubs. Keep reassuring your baby everything will be ok, it is safe and you are there to take care of it. Be brave hun and try really hard to get some time to meditate and sleep. You really need to rest right now. Try giving your worries to your hubby for a few hours and go to bed for a bit for some quiet time. It sounds funny but releasing that weight off your shoulders for a moment might not sound like it is possible...but it will help a little. You really need to rest you body and mind.
Oh just remember...saw this show on BBC1 the other night that was so so interesting. Did you know that human mammals have the most intrusive, destructive, and parasitic placentas in the animal kingdom. It is just incredible what that placenta will do for a good food source and life line for our babies. The show was about the 'war' that the mothers body and growing baby will go through to each survive the process of pregnancy and birth. I don't like the word war but it is how they explained it. That placenta eats into the side of your womb with vengeance and destruction to get what it needs and to the extent that it likes to be swimming in rich blood. So it will damage the wall to get a good pool of blood to sit in and grow with. The hormones and other processes going on affect our bodies massively but most of the time this stays in fine balance. Sometimes it is a little off and it is touch a go but it is truly amazing how it works.
Good luck for tomorrow and i sure everything will be fine. Try not to be attached to the scan results and know that in a couple of weeks all will be a different story and that little bub will be growing great guns. It is still very early for you hun so try to go easy on yourself.
Love and wishes HM xoxo
LNB- Thanks hun, that is a wonderful thing to say. I am so chuffed for you that MS seems to be taking a holiday for you...hope it is a long one. It might come and go for a bit until it is gone. I find that is what is happening to me too. Yeah Sorry BG! xox
Chezza!- Oh babe that calm will come, give it time. Know that it is coming. I have been blessed with a pretty good ride and nothing much else to think or worry about so we are in a good space for it. It is so challenging when that is not the case. When i had my miscarriage i was beside myself with worry. This time it just feels different and i can't deny that feeling which is nice. I just try not to question too much and think...this is how it is for me. There is comfort in knowing that we are all different. My thought are with you and i send you lots of calming vibes hun...so expect them to hit you real soon. LOL
Love and rubs to all XOoxoox
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Hi everyone, just a brief post from me today:
M2C - hang in there, hun :comfort: It must be very scary. Remember that it is early, and there is no cause for your OB to be taking any action if there is nothing to indicate anything amiss. It's so hard when you don't know what's happening properly, but your levels are rising, and I'm praying so much that this next scan that you have shows you everything you need to be reassured. Don't let that OB of yours be a bully, especially when you're feeling so fragile and sensitive. I'm angry that they are not helping you at this time when they should be! Hang in there, you're doing so well, just one day at a time, and I hope the scan is much more reassuring - I believe in you and your bubs!! :hug:
Chez - so hard not to panic when those symptoms just do a vanishing act early on - that happened to me a number of times early on and I was totally at panic stations - it's the only thing you have to rely on. Just remember to be kind to yourself and know that it's ok to feel like you are. The HPT was a great idea, and I hope the BT results are also really reassuring for you, hun.
Nic - just wanted to say good luck for your scan hun! I hope it's absolutely wonderful!
Bel - so pleased your feeling calmer and that your little ones are doing well and the spotting/bleeding has calmed down now too - how wonderful! Can't wait for you to reach the next milestone.
Big hello and bigger belly rubs to TL, HM, LNB, BG, scooby, BW, Nicole, FG, Bel, dusty, Devon, Kahlan, Janie and anyone I have missed - it's just brilliant that the thread is so full!
AFM - I've had two stretch and sweeps in the lead up to my induction date on Thursday (2nd one was today). I'm currently 1cm dilated and 70% effaced, which is quite exciting because it means that induction is going to be so much easier now, if I don't already go spontaneously in the next couple of days. Lots of cramping, did have some mild contractions on Friday overnight that stopped, so bubs is really getting ready to roll now! Hoping something may happen overnight after this stretch and sweep today. Having reflexology again tomorrow, and hopefully by the next time I post in the thread, little CB will be here (praying!)
Take care, everyone, thinking of you all,
Miss C :hug:
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M2C - Hand in there - you have a lot of positive vibes heading your way. Just do what ever you need to do to take care of yourself.
Chez - re the Calmbirth: You can do weekend courses in Sydney or I know you can do a weekend course in Bowral as well - I couldn't tell you if there were courses in Canberra.
Peter Jackson is the guy who 'invented' this particular course and even though it is likened to hypnobirth it is not (or so I have been told). Basically hypnobirth came about as a part of a self hypnosis course - it was one module on birth where as the whole Calmbirth course was specifically designed around birth and pregnancy. I hope I got that right.....My DH said he thought some of the ideas were a bit 'out there/new age', but he said he really, really enjoyed it and learned a lot because these ideas get tied back to a scientific reason which helped him understand the value in the techniques.
LBN - Good luck with it - I really can't say how good the course made me feel about everything. I was waking up with nightmares about giving birth (this at the 12 week stage) and just thought I have to do something about this to get some control back and to get rid of this fear that was turning slightly into panic. The best part is that the earlier your do it the more time you get to practice the techniques - visulaisation, relaxation, breathing, etc. It's not a course where you go for 2 days and that's it - you will have to practice the techniques, but most of them will help with everyday situations anyway.
Miss C - I hope we don't hear from you today/tomorrow because little CB has decided that it is time to come into the big wide world. Best of luck hun.
To everyone else - hugs and belly rubs
M-wha
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Miss C, sounds so exciting! I'm glad things are working out for you in terms of getting CB out with gentle encouragement rather than an aggressive induction. I'm a little sad that at the stage we'd need to be trying these things my acupuncture clinic will be closed over Christmas. I'm in there today, and I'm hoping I'll remember to ask if there's anything I can do at home by myself to encourage Munchkin out in a timely manner. I've woken in extreme pain this morning and can barely walk from all the bits and pieces he's pressing on, so I'm really hoping they'll help me, rather than lecturing me on why getting to 40 weeks would be better than 38! OB appointment on Thursday, so I suspect that if one won't help, I'll be begging the other to do something!
M2C, I think everyone else has said it all. :hug: Hippymum especially, your body your decision on whether you go to surgery or not, and if there's ANY question of doubt in your mind, insist on waiting a few more days and having another scan first if that's what your FS is suggesting. I'm hoping and praying that it will be a moot point and this scan will bring good news. Take good care of yourself.
I'm feeling a little stressed and flustered this morning... as we may just be moving within the next few weeks... as if being heavily pregnant over Christmas wasn't bad enough, we'll throw in a complete house move as well! Eek! :o Apart from that, it's just too painful to sit for too long, so I think I'll be popping in and out with short posts rather than sitting down to a long one...
BW
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M2C- sending you a big hug...i truly understand how stressful this time of limbo and anxiety is...it's very draining emotionally and physically...i so hope things are OK for you. I think you would have some pain by now if ectopic...but I guess none of us are experts, that was just my experience. I hope you receive some clarity and answers soon.
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Hi Guys....may I join you?
I have been really scared to join or announce PG till we had BT back today. Numbers are looking healthy, so I am taking a leap.
M2C - hope you have some answers today :hug:.
Chez - congratulations! :dance:
HM, TL, Dusty, Miss C, Bel, BG - so nice to see you here!
I'll try to catch up on everyone really soon :redface:
Rach xx
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Welcome Rach and huge congrats to you!
Miss C - it is all sounding sooooo exciting. Can't wait to hear about CB's arrival!
M2C - I am so sorry for what you are going through. I agree with everyone else. Don't let your FS bully you into anything that you do not feel comfortable with. Get a second opinion if you need it. But hopefully, you will see that HB on your scan.
Sorry I haven't had time to do personals for everyone, but must do some more work quickly before home time. It sure is hard keeping up with how many people are in here now! :bellyrubs: to you all.
Janie xxx
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Hi All,
M2C- I hope things are ok for you. Am thinking of you and praying everything is going smoothly.
MissC- You must truly be beside yourself with happiness and excitement right now. I am thrilled to hear all is going so well for you xx
Sorry for the lack of personals..
AFM, just came out of hospital again. Another big bleed on Monday night. Babies are fantastic, just their mummy who is not coping right now. FS says bleed is coming from the edge of the placenta. I just want this to stop. It is so hard to stay strong when you are bleeding.
We had a really good scan though. Babies measuring spot on, HB's excellent and both are really busy in there. We are 12 weeks tomorrow, so I just have to keep being positive and strong for our little ones. FS says I will probably bleed more, but he is 99% sure everything will be ok.
Yesterday was 2 years to the day I was admitted to hospital with my ectopic and would you believe I was 2 rooms away from the room I had then! I pray the next time I'm in one of those rooms again, is with my 2 much loved babies in my arms.
Am on TOTAL bedrest now. Nothing round the house even. Oh well!
Am thinking of you all. Will be back to chat soon
Hugs Bel
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:welcome: Rach so exceited to have you here with us :leap:
Well OB visit at 24 weeks went well yesterday good heartbeat and tummy was feeling good. (Appts seem to be 5-10 mins hope that is normal)
We moved now I have to unpack but need leave that for awhile as the back is sore from bending over and the OB yelled at Mummy :( for doing too much and told her that Daddy had to do most of it and lift the boxes to a height where I don't have to lean
Christmas Tree goes up tonight!!!!!!
:bellyrubs: to all my friends in here and on BB
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Hello all,
Only have time for a short post - so sorry for the insufficient personals...
M2C - I really hope that all is going ok for you today and that your scan is ok. :hug: and :crossfingers:
Bel - I'm glad that you FS is positive on the outlook for your two precious little ones - it must help you get through this very difficult time. They are fighters though and you are very strong and will get them through.
Rach - welcome and congrats on the numbers moving in the right direction...wishing you a wonderful :bellygrowing:
Miss C - wow you really are getting up to the 'business end' of things. hope all goes well and to plan. good luck.
AFM - busy with work. feeling very tired and lower back is killing me - not helped by driving. starting to feel hungry and a bit ill for very short periods during the day, so hope that is MS, and bb starting to feel a bit sore...so hope that everything is pointing to a heartbeat next week. Wishing I could ask for a BT to check that my levels are rising...but dont want to look too pushy/silly...I guess I will just have to wait.
To everyone that I've missed - which is nearly everyone :wall: hope that all is going well.
Thinking of you all.
FG