Pregnancy after Long Term TTC - November 2008

[LNB]

Hi Everyone -

Wow ! I was offline for 2 days and so much to keep up on. I've read through all the posts and enjoyed a good laugh out of some of them.

Welcome to Melbel and On_tra_K - congratulations on your BFP's !! I am new to this as well and still finding my way through books and every internet site I can find on early weeks of pg.

I'm not even going to try with personals today but hoping everyone is doing well in this amazing journey to motherhood.

AFM - feeling ok, not a lot of PG symptoms yet and counting the sleeps (8 to go) until our first scan. I've had some weird CM the last 2 days which has me a bit freaked out. Twice now when I've gone to pee (I always blot a bit first to check for spotting, sorry for TMI) and there isn't any, but then when I wipe after a pee, there is a soft pink tinge on the paper, not much , just a little tinge. It happened once on Wednesday and once again today - about 24 hours apart. Now I am checking every 30 mins and for no spotting.

Take care everyone,
LNB

[Gigi1]

Megan- Hope the GD can be controlled hun. Wish you all the best with it. One more thing fo ryou to think about but absolutely no reason for you to think you can 't have a normal pg, birth weight etc. Don't let them make you feel that it is out of your control. You can do it hun and your baby will be beautiful. Take care of yourself and you will be safe. What a git of a Dr to scare you so much. It has so much to do with HOW they talk to you!! I had a bla appointment today too..could have shot him.

MelBel- Hope the HCG is just taking a breather and you have a good surge soon. I am sure you will be ok hun. Wouldn't it be nice if we all hit the 'normal range' for once!! Good luck hun.

LNB- Hope it is nothing to worry about hun...to make you smile- Don't chaff yourself! LOL Many women Bleed full on and stil go on to have wonderful pg. My SIL did too. It is just a shame as it gets you so stressed. Easy sailing for LNB please...that is an order!

AFM- Had a horrid afternoon at the DR. He refused point blank to refer me to a scan or blood tests on the NHS. It really upset me. It seemed my case was not reason enough for him. He had to nerve to say 'if it is not meant to be, it is not meant to be and nature will take it's course'. God i was beside myself. I can't afford to have it done privately and i am feeling really irresponsible not being able to be proactive. If this pregnancy (the beginning of) was risk free....then i would have been pregnant years and years ago. What an insensitive approach to someone who has been trying for 10 years to have a baby. People have ART to sustain a pregnancy and i don't even have the choice to have a natural progesterone if i need it.
I am NOT ALLOWED to have a scan before 12 weeks. So it will be a very long and axious wait for us. He said unless i am in pain or bleeding, he can't help me. So much for preventative care. I was fuming...your Dr is supposed to have you best interests at heart. I was not being rediculus and he treated me like a neurotic pg woman over reacting. Anyway, i will just have to look after myself from now on...i am not going back to him. The pain of it is in the Uk you can't choose your DR....so changing is a huge deal. Oh god, we are hopeful and leaving it in natures hands. He also said to take folic acid...doh...but then made me laugh by saying...IF YOU WANT, you could take a multi vitamin...Thanks for that mate. He has no idea what kind of nutrition i am getting and for all he knows i could be under nourished. What kind of advice is that??? Luckily i have been doing this for years...anyway he took my blood pressure...that is it. No abdominal touch, no temp, no pulse, no Pee in a cup....Am I expecting too much. Nothing to even confirm the pregnancy.
Ok I am mad again now so i better go. There is no point getting myself stressed over this...i just risk my baby...for that idiot, i don't think so!!

Love to you all and up the bum of DRs over here!!
Hm oxoxox

[Shannon22]

Mel - yep i do have GD, thats how naughty i was with the crunchie chocolate. Somehow i can eat a little chocolate and get ok levels but eat a slice of multigrain bread and my levels are skyhigh But it was WAYYYYYY to much crunchie chocolate!
Hope those HCG levels pick up speed, and the dr has only good news for you tomorrow. I have everything crossed... and nope your not normal you fell pregnant by having sex! What is that all about!

Megan - Sorry to hear about the GD that really does suck, i remember the feeling well and definately take Mel up on her offer she has great advice! The main thing that helped me was eating protein for breakfast, two boiled eggs and a glass of milk helped keep the levels down. Boring as bat poo but really made a difference, ask away and i will try and be helpful if i can. But huge cos it is really crap when they ring with the news and doing the *****ing!

HM- i would be soooo peeved, he really has some nerve, what about the emotional effacts of the 10years TTC, i was totally freaked and had several scans to reassure myself. Can you go see another GP and not mention you saw this one? Is it possible to say your not sure exactly how far along you are and get a dating scan? Did i mention crunchie chocolate?? Hope your feeling better soon.

BW - Ahh the shooty pains that make you lift your butt of the chair really quickly are lots of fun, ive had them for ages i think its just bubs putting pressure down there which can only be good for later on.

LNB - Will have everything crossed for you, im sure bubba is doing just fine. I know this might sound silly but i you sure it isnt a pattern on the TP? I freaked myself out once big time with that.

Shan

[Kahlan]

I got my latest HCG done today and so far the results are as follows:

4w2d 172
4w5d 615
5w5d 2085

Melbel, if it helps, 85% of women with normal pg only has hcg level increase every 72 hours so yours might just be o.k. Hang in there hun.

AFM - feeling ok, not a lot of PG symptoms yet and counting the sleeps (8 to go) until our first scan. I've had some weird CM the last 2 days which has me a bit freaked out. Twice now when I've gone to pee (I always blot a bit first to check for spotting, sorry for TMI) and there isn't any, but then when I wipe after a pee, there is a soft pink tinge on the paper, not much , just a little tinge. It happened once on Wednesday and once again today - about 24 hours apart. Now I am checking every 30 mins and for no spotting.

Take care everyone,
LNB

LNB I am sorry you have to go through such anxiety. For any consolation, my sister had light bleeding for the 1st trimester for both of her boys. They are both born healthy. Apparently it is very normal to have some spotting during pg.

HM, how dare the gp! I am surprised that the gp could be so insensitive! I agree with Shannon.. see if you could go to another dr.

AFM, had my second bt at 5w2d. HCG level at 8910 and P4 at 66. I told the nurse that I am very surprise the hcg level is so high. 7 days ago it was only at 316. She said it was all fine. I didn't argue with her but thought to myself, it is increasing greater than the doubling every 48 hours theory (which if true my level should only be at ~4000 mark). I can't be carrying twins as I only had 1 embie transferred... identical twin??? Has anyone has identical twin through AC??? or could it be molar pg???? I am doing my own head in

[Gigi1]

Kahlan...I wonder if it is twins hun,...those levels seem nice and high. I wish i could compare with you right now. Maybe the less i know the better. Yep My dr is an idiot. I would have to put a pretty good case together to change drs...not usually allowed. I just don't want the stress.

Shan...Thanks hun. I know, other friends have suggested a fake it a bit, but i just don't want to do anything negative that might tempt fate. Best i can do right now is get some quotes. See if i can get a second opinion by ringing the fert clinic...see how i go from there. Why oh why can't this be straight forward...a BT is not going crazy.

Love to you guys xoxox

[Kahlan]

hi HM,

Perhaps not knowing is a bliss... In truth I have read that even if the drs know something is not quite right with the pg they can't do much for us anyway... then it becomes a sit and wait game of which most is of anxiety... With my recent bt result, I am just going to accept that things are going well and wait for my scan. I have the option of doing a 7w scan but am contemplating doing an 8w scan instead as the 7w appointment clashes with work committment. Not sure yet. The sonographer that I have been referred to is a also a gyn and ob so would be able to give me interpretive results straight away so I am not keen to change the appointment to fit the 7w scan and just end up having someone else. What would you recommend?

Anyway, good night everyone. Talk more tomorrow.

[Gigi1]

Kahlan, Sounds like the 8 week is the way to go then hun. I will send you a link in your PM for a video of 8 week development.
You are right, we just have to believe that everything is going to be fine. I can't help but have a glimmer of the thought...if i lost this baby could it have been prevented? I will be fine. I fell strong and the spirit of our bubba feels strong too.
Love to you hun

[on tra_k]

nope your not normal you fell pregnant by having sex! What is that all about!

Shan - you crack me up ... too funny ... and Mel - how wonderfully traditional of you (no disrespect intended of the huge journey you had, the banter between you and Shan has me )
LNB - good luck with your scan next Tues ... hope it gives you a bit of peace of mind ... can't wait until mine, still too many sleeps to count!
Mon - OMG - that is so amazing . You must be totally freaking out!
Kahlan - I looked up the stats on id twins the other day because I figure that's the only possible chance for me to have twins (only one embie transferred and on a stim cycle so no eggs there). Couldn't find too much other than a mention that ICSI, ov induction etc. can increase the occurence of monozygotic (identical) twins and that twins are identical in 4% of cases of IVF twins (occurs when one embie doesn't implant but the other splits)
Nicole - hope your scan went well
Nic, Tiggerlinda, BG, Janie71, Bel, buliej, HM, scooby, BW - hi, hope you're all going well. Hi to anyone else who I've missed ...

AFM - have told our parents the news and sworn them to secrecy ... we'll see how long it lasts! No symptoms yet ... can't believe how slowly the days are passing ... but I'll enjoy them while they're symptom free! I'm sure the initial bliss will pass soon and I'll stop thinking about it every minute of every day!

[Megan]

Well Done Mon!! That's amazing news!

[Gigi1]

Hi everyone....

LNB -Glad you are doing well hun. That news is just great.

Mon -Will say it again my girl...i am so down right proud of you. It is simply wonderful news and I am still on cloud nine for you. It has been a long time coming!! Love to Mass, Crik and Crok

Hi to everyone else and hope you are all doing well, bellies growing strong!
HM xoxoxo

[tiggerlinda]

and to all

Ok Time for me to Try and Catch Up

Mon - We are so excited for you the twins and DH

OnTrack - Gald you have told the parents and can share the excitment with them

LNB - Hope the spotting eases for you. I had spotting right up to 12 weeks and bubs is growing quite well

Me of to the Brissie TTC meetup this moring and we make it to the 19 week mark tommorrow so 8 Sleeps till scan day