Pregnancy after LT TTC #12

Hey. The only thing I'm over is the unknown....all of a sudden I'm a great big scaredy cat. In some ways, I think I'd rather know how much pain there is going to be (which I appreciate is impossible to know) and I would definitely like to know when its going to happen. I dreamt last night that I was having contractions, how perverse the mind is. The other thing I'm over is people asking me constantly if I'm ready or excited, and constantly asking me how I am. I know they mean well, but its doing my head in at the moment, its a bit claustrophobic. Someone told me that the best advice is to lie about your due date, and I'm coming round to thinking that it is a brilliant idea!

I've got 3 of the 5 signs of prelabour - but as this could last weeks, I'm trying not to read too much into it. Docs on weds. Another lady at antenatal had her baby, we're down to three now... I feel like the party has started without me.....

Welcome Yogi Bear. As everyone has said, its perfectly normal to be worried after all we have been through. As for the cramps, definitely normal also. During my last cycle it was the one time i was sure i was getting AF from the cramps and it ended up being the time i was pregnant. The cramps do continue for some time unfortunately which wont help your worrying.
Brunette as far as weight gain is concerned i have heard ladies that have put on 6kgs their whole pregnancy and others that have put on 29kgs so no right or wrong. There are guidelines out there but as long as you are eating right try not to worry to much about it. I have never weighed myself at home this whole pregnancy. I just rely on the obs scales. That way im getting a reading from the exact same scales for the whole pregnancy.
LondonMiss i tend to agree with the others and say just send a general message if you dont like the name or in this case dont know what sex the name is associated with (that is very weird). Very exciting that you have 3 of the 5 signs. Not long before we get an announcement from you! As for finding out others are having their babies and your not, im not even due yet but i found out a friend of a friend was due a week after me and she already had her baby and to be honest i feel cheated like its not fair. Im meant to have mine first :-( Can you imagine if i go overdue.. OMG i will be losing the plot!
Renee enjoy being spoilt at your mum's.
wantbaby#2 how are you going? Got everything ready to go?

Have really been struggling with sleep this past week. Cant get comfortable and sleeping on my sides gives me back pain. Oh and not to mention the constant toilet trips! I just want one night of undisturbed sleep!! I will be having plenty of sleepless nights once she is here so why not let me sleep now?!

Hi lovely ladies!

YogiBear - yep, I had quite strong cramping (AF type) on and off until about 7 weeks, it was quite disconcerting at first as I was convinced AF was coming, then found out I was PG! Totally natural to be worried about every little thing - these babies are hard fought and won. As for the no spotting - I had one mild spot the day before my positive BT, and then one tiny spot at about 10 weeks, and thats it so far. As Brunette said, everyone is different, don't stress if you're not spotting!

LondonMiss - oooh, pre-labour signs sounds exciting (even if they may hang around for a while) - better to have them than not, right?! Good luck for your doc appt on Wed. Love the idea of lying about the due date, unfortunately we've told lots of people already. But on the upside, our due date is not long after Christmas, so hopefully lots of people will still be away and not hassle us like you've been copping! As for the baby name issue you mentioned a few days ago, I usually say "so excited for you on the arrival of little XXX" or "can't wait to meet little XXX" - therefore avoiding commenting on the name, or the sex, if its ambiguous!

Brunette - I'm getting those leg cramps now, how annoying are they? I'm wriggling around like a mad thing at night, trying not to sleep on my back, and every time I move - boom! Cramp.

Lise - saw your beautiful photos, he's absolutely gorgeous! You must be besotted.

CK77 - thats fantastic news about your job, and then getting the redundancy right before the baby comes. Excellent timing! And no impact on the baby bonus - perfect. Yay for your tummy popping out! I can't wait til I look unequivocably pregnant, right now it still looks like I could be either or. PS you ARE tiny, if you ask me!

Hi to everyone else in here, hope you're all travelling well.

AFM - all good here, feeling like the fog is lifting (probably partly because I'm taking iron tablets now for the anaemia!), pants are getting snugger by the day, but the big thing is my BBs have just started killing me again, after being fine for 6 weeks. Think I'm going to get a maternity bra tomorrow. How early did others make the change over? I know its a personal thing, just worried that its so early. I fear that if I buy one now, it won't fit by the end! I'm quite big busted, who knows how big these babies are gonna get?! :o

Hi everyone~ I have been reading up here but wont be doing personals.I will just say regarding the weight gain,i have gained 14kgs and apparently at 35 weeks you stop gaining weight...yay.I now weigh 59kgs and think that may be it.
I had cramping from transfer til about 9 weeks or so for those who were asking.
Im trying to type as my cat has his head on my arm sleeping and my belly almost blocks the lower half of the keyboard..LOL so mistakes will be many.
I have 11 days to go and dh is still working away.Its been 5 weeks now with trips home on the wekend.He is amgry at me becuse when he came home there were dishes in the sink and the house was a mess.He seems toexpect so much of me but im just soooooo tired.By the time i get up,have breakfaast and get dressed,i need to lie down again.I was ready to get shopping done at 11 today but i got so tired i then got back into bed,fully dressed,and woke at 1.30!! I didnt leave the house til 3pm. Anyhow i am trying to be cheerful and energetic but im just a emotional,tired,exhausted slob.Everthing seems to be getting to me.Im not depressed,just soooooo tired,i cant function.Is anyone else like this in the final weeks?
Over and out.Goodnight girls.xx

Yes, I'm in a semi-permanant state of tiredness. I can't stand the whinging when I don't do the housework, so I've started doing it first thing when I have the energy, then it doesn't matter if I fall asleep. So after breakfast I wash up and tidy and stick dishwasher on etc, then have a nap or read with feet up or something, then I make dinner mid-morning and put it in the fridge. That way I can snore all afternoon to my hearts content if I like and he's nonethewiser. I'm not doing any shopping though, I've discovered Coles Online and its a revelation; no point making yourself more tired traipsing round shops if you don't need to. Maybe check it out? If you stick your belly out, you practically get the delivery man to put it all away for you too : )

Remembering to shower is harder for me... really ought to do that... in fact, I will strike whilst the thought is hot and go and do it now. belly rubs to all x

Londonmiss~I will have to check out the coles online.Especially as i wont be able to drive for 6 weeks after a c section,i will need to get food somehow.DH is taking 2-3 weeks off starting from the day bub arrives (23rd July) so he can help then,but then i will be left to fend for myself. Showering is getting difficult..i need to get DH to shave my legs for me when he comes home on the weekends!! I hate to think what other parts,i cant see or reach,look like.Must be a forest down there.:o
Well its not long now for you.How exciting.I keep having dreams that my "girl" baby is a boy.Its driving me insane.It must be my subconscious fear that i will have a boy after having spent well over $1500 on a girl...nursery,clothes,pink bath,fluffy rug,crystal drawer handles etc etc. Have you got your names sorted? Didnt you like Dannii Minogues name choice? I thought it was nice.I LOVE the name Edward. My chosen name for our daughter starts with an E. I like normal,classic,feminine names for girls and for boys something unique for a first name mixed with a classic,masculine name for a middle.Just my thoughts.My cousin has a boy named Brayden and i have a cousin named Jayden..both which are names i would definately have last on my lists.Apart from those names there arent too many i dont like.Oh,i dont like 'hippy'names for girls....yuck!! I never comment on peoples name choices though...i keep it to myself.LOL.

Lise~Your son is simply beautiful.I hope my bub has gorgeous hair like yours.I love dark hair.I worry about having a completely bald baby! Not a fan of baldies,and i havnt had indigestion so maybe mine will be bald.Lucky i have bought lots of hats!! LOL.




Hoping everyone is doing well.im still trying to function like a normal human being.Have to try and do some more sculpting today before bub arrives as i wont have time to afterwards and im sure DH will start whingeing about that too!!

LOL - yes I'm pretty much working off a list of names that (unintentionally) have been used for British monarchs, and if any american rapper has used it, it's instantly disregarded : ) I love the name Edward, but DH rumbled me and realised I like it in part because of Twilight so I'm afraid he's scrubbed it off. Just been on the phone to a friend due 10 days after me and she's going to be induced before me. I think I am still going to be pregnant in 2013 and have been confused with an elephant's gestation period. I'm going to distract myself by baking a cake... any inspiration or recipes welcome.... ?

Londonmiss~Your so funny...elephants gestation? You will have your bub before you know it. :)
Edward is my fathers name and therefore my son's middle name.I have a obsession with french names.My father was english(born in bristol),my mum is australian and we have welsh,french blood too.So english and french names are my favs.
Enjoy the cake.I had a craving for vanilla cake batter last week,but of course didnt make it or eat it.I sat down with 2 slurpees instead which was a huge mistake.The sugar rush was sickening!

Elephants take 22 months!!! I could still be in this thread in 13 months time.....

thinking of you LM sending labour vibes to you

Leabie i bought two Bonds maternity bras (very comfy) early on, by your stage im sure as i had a big surge and my normal bras were very uncomfortable. I made sure they fit well but with some room to grow. And funnily enough i have been able to wear them till now. I found i havent had any huge growth since.
wantbaby#2 59Kg that is amazing. I was more than that when i started! I like what you said about no more weight after 35 weeks. I was under the impression that you continue to put on upto 500g a week. As for being tired, yep me too. I always feel like a nap around 10.30am and then again around 3pm but unfortunately im still working away so its not an option. I too have DH shave my legs but as for other areas, i leave that to the waxing ladies at the salon.
LondonMiss can you imagine having the gestation period of an elephant?! OMG we would die!

By the way, did someone say cake?? Mmmmmmmmmmm

Big thanks to LondonMiss, Brunette, Paula & Leabie for your reassurance about cramping, i am feeling a lot less worried now and taking it as a good sign that things are happening as they should in my tummy!!

Wow quite a few of you here about to meet their bubs real soon...how exciting!!
Talking about weight gain - i have put on about 4kg since i started ivf 4 years ago and i just could never shake it again. I am only 6 wks pg now and my belly looks like its about 4 mths! (maybe i'm still bloated from the last cycle?) TBH, i wouldn't care if i was the size of a house after this pregnancy as long as this bub arrives safe & sound i dont care how fat i get!

Thanks again for your support, its so lovely to relate to others who understand with all that we have gone through to get to this point.
Have a good day everyone xxx

Hello all,

Thanks for all your congrats and good wishes re Finn! We've been home a couple of days now and he is just so good - we have to wake him for most feeds! I do wonder how long this will last though, i'm sure I can't be this lucky for too much longer... ;)

So I thought i'd write a bit about his birth if anyone is interested in the details - skip to the next paragraph if not!

As you know I saw my OB on Tuesday last week and she did an internal - I was 4cm dilated and my cervix was looking favourable so she did a membrane sweep around 2ish (which hurt quite a bit I have to say, way worse than a pap smear) but otherwise I was still booked in for 8am Thursday to have my waters broken. About 8pm I noticed I was cramping (just like period pain) every 10 mins, nothing painful and certainly tolerable. I tried to go to sleep around 10:30 but they were too strong for sleeping though still not hurting. By midnight they were 5 mins apart and I had to start using some pain relief options - the bath, fitball, massage etc. I called the hospital and they said to call again around 3 mins apart or when the pain was too much. By 3am the contractions were painful and I thought I might need some more help so we called the hospital again and were there around 3:30. When they did the internal I was 7cm dilated, so I had a bath but I have to say that it really didn't do much for me by that stage. I had some gas which helped a bit but after a bit I asked for some pethidine also, which (at least temporarily!) was just bliss! By around 7am I felt like I needed to do a big poo with each contraction so they did another internal and I was fully dilated though the baby still hadn't engaged. I was really hurting at this stage so they broke my waters around 7:45 and I immediately went into full on labour - contractions just one after the other and so so intense. By this stage the pethidine had worn off and it was too late for any other drugs so I had to do the second stage drug free - quite a challenge (well for me anyway). Because Finn still hadn't engage I had to push for what felt like hours and he still wasn't coming, so finally the OB came and we decided the vacuum was the best option, though I still had to push. Eventually at 9:30am Finn was born, with some second degree tearing. Quite an amazing experience, though I won't lie and say it didn't hurt i'd certainly go back for more if it meant another gorgeous baby like Finn. I'm so completely overwhelmed by how much I love him already, I thought I knew how much I would love him before he was born but i'm still surprised.

Anyway, enough of me - just wanted to say that although I won't really post in here on a regular basis now i'll still be be lurking and popping my head in to see how everyone is going. I can't believe that in a few more weeks we'll have even more babies, so so exciting :D Sending big labour vibes to everyone close and belly rubs to everyone else xx


lise xx

Oh LISE~ You bring tears to my eyes.Your story is so inspirational and you have done sooooo well.Im so happy that he is your world and that you love him soooo much already.Judging by the pics,he is definately one to steal your heart. I wish you all the best.You were so exhausted and over it all,by the end and to hear how happy you are is just wonderful.Keep in touch in here.Looking forward to seeing more of Finn on fb.xoxox

Lise, wow is all I can say about your birthing experience. You nearly made me cry, too! (Although TBH that's not hard in my hormonal state ATM hee hee).

Leabie, I also bought a maternity bra quite early on. Let me think ... I must have bought two at least a month ago, maybe more. My boobs have gone up a cup size and did so quite early, such that I couldn't fit into my normal bras, all of which were underwire and apparently not recommended while PG. My boobs have been sore all throughout my PG. Funnily enough, I thought soreness in the boobs was just an early PG sign. How wrong I was!

Wantbaby2, I agree with Paula, to be 59ks after gaining 14 ks, you must have been soooo tiny to begin with! Not long to go now, hey? How funny your mind playing tricks on you re the sex of the baby. FX it is a girl so you don't have to buy new baby boy clothes etc!

LM, as always, you have managed to make me laugh with your elephant gestation comment. Love it! Hope that with 3 of the 5 prelabour signs you are not too far away from meeting your precious little bundle. How do you feel about banana cake? I'm going to make one this weekend with citrus frosting. Yummo!

Juniper, I've seen the rooms at the Mater as my DH's sister recently gave birth to her second child there. They are really nice.

Paula, FX you get a good night's sleep tonight. I have been going to bed exhausted and really early but waking up extremely early - like 2 am or 4 am and not being able to get back to sleep. I agree with you that it's very cruel since we'll not be sleeping well for years to come, no doubt. I think it is mother nature preparing us, but it is very cruel and wrong!

lise thanks for sharing your birth story with us. You did such an amazing job! I am loving all the photos of your stunning little boy on fb. Keep them coming :D

Hope everyone is travelling along nicely! :hello:

Hi all

Lise - thanks for sharing your experience. What a good little boy it sounds like you have, i hope that lasts a little bit longer for you.

Leabie - I have been wearing maternity bras since about 9 weeks. I have size 12DD boobs without being pregnant so i was finding the underwire was cutting in way too much. I agree with paula i but the bonds maternity bras and the singlets with the built in bras and have found them the most comfortable.

Yogibear - sorry im a bit late but i also had the weird cramping early on in my pregnancy. this may sound weird but after awhile and especially now when i get cramping (feels more like stretching) i know why, it usually happens on 1 or 2 days a week so i figure that is when the baby does its growing.

Londonmiss - so glad we are not elephants:lol:Good luck with everything i hope you don't have to wait too much longer!

wantbaby - GL with your scultping!!! It really sucks to have to think about that sort of stuff sometimes!

Paula - Hope you have been sleepping a little better. I get tired now after a full day, i can only imagine how tired you must be feeling. Not much longer to go now!!

Brunette - How are the twins luv? I have put on 2-3kilos since finding out. I put that down to having days where i can't eat cause of MS and then on the days i can all i want is hot chips with lots of salt!!!

CK77 - have you felt bub move yet?

Hello to all the other beautiful ladies i have missed today hope you are all well;)

AFM - back from my relaxing week but still have the rest of the week off cause of school holidays! My tummy is just strating to pop :dance:and depending on what i wear some days i actually look pregnant not just fat!! The MS is still sticking around, i think i will be one of those people who have to deal with it all the way through, i do get about 4 days in a row where i am pretty good then it build to a day where i can't get out of bed! My girlfriend had a little girl on tuesday and i'm off to visit her today, it has made me want time to go a little bit faster so we can meet our little bundle. There are so many sales at the moment but since we are not going to find out the sex of the baby there is very little to buy, everything is either blue or pink. I already have a fair bit of white. Have a lovely day:D

Hello all. Sorry for what will be a me-post... well still here and still running to elephant time. Had an obs visit yesterday and am pleased to report I won a bit of a discussion with her. One downside of the public system is getting different obs, but frankly, I'm glad I only had her once - she just really ruffled me. I don't know if I mentioned some time ago when I was 28ish weeks I had a commercial scan - you know, nothing useful just pretty pics for my mother in law. At the time, the lady said, "I'm sure it's nothing, but you have three fibroids, one is quite big you might want to mention it to your doc to investigate". I knew I'd had a couple when doing IUI so it wasn't a surprise. I've mentioned this fact at my last three midwife meetings, but they've seemed v unbothered about it. Yesterday's ob says "well where is this alleged fibroid, is it anywhere important?" I don't know I said, I'm an energy consultant not a doctor... She went off on one about these commercial places giving you bad news and not providing reports and so on. I said, I appreciate all of that, but al they did was draw my attention to it, and leave it up to you if you want to investigate it (personally I thought they handled it rather well but anyway). So the doc said "I'm sure you don't have a fibroid". So, I'm afraid I got rather shirty, and said "well of course thats your call, your the doctor, if you are sure it's nowhere important then lets pretend I never mentioned it". She looked completely flummoxed and said, "but are you sure you don't know where it is", and I said, again, not my job: either it worries you or it doesn't, it's' not up to me to make that call. Then she felt my belly and said I had a two centimetre one. She asked if I agreed, and I said no, I saw one with my own eyes that was considerably bigger on the 28 week scan but if she was absolutely sure, then I was happy to go with her judgement. Then she looked more panicy, and sent me for a scan. Where I am pleased to report (well kind of) that there was a 2x4 cm fibroid and a 10x 7cm one AS I BLOODY WELL SAID!!! Thank fully they are on the top and it doesnt' matter, but it could have made a big difference if it was in the way of the cervix so I'm so glad I pushed her on it.

What really irritates me is that I clarified that situation because I can speak good english, am well read and can articulate my requirements. What if she'd pulled that "doctor knows best" crap on a 18 year old girl just arrived from India and unable to commuicate her needs ??? It really annoys me that sometimes you have to push back. Yes, I don't have a medical degree, and yes I'm sure that LTTTCers who think they know more about the reproductive system than a doctor are deeply and profoundly irritating to them but come on! Anyway, alls well that ends well. I am engaged and it is apparently up to my own body to start something off now... so I might be right, I might be still here in 2014!!!!

Nothing more to report really. Hope you are all travelling well and going ok. Sorry for the lack of persies. xxx

Lise - sorry I did mean to add thank you so much for the birth story. I find them so useful for the mental preparation... I hope you and Finn are doing well xx

Renee shame about your MS at least you do get some relief days though. I have a lady in my belly buddies thread who has had severe MS her whole pregnancy and is even being induced early because its that bad. Had some weeks were she lost over 4kg the poor thing! MS can be really nasty. Hopefully yours clears up soon for you. Yay on the belly popping out! Always good to finally look pregnant and not just fat.. LOL :D
LondonMiss good on you for standing up to that woman!! :clap: I wish i could do that but at times i fall into the "He is the Dr so he must know best" category which i know is totally wrong but i just struggle to speak my mind at times and stand up for myself, in general not with the pregnancy etc. I looked at your ticker and got so excited for you... One day left! Although you dont feel like things are progressing its got to be a nice feeling to reach that due date and know that the end is definitely near.

Been feeling very ouchie on my back last few days which is no fun but taking it all in my stride and just enjoying counting down the days! I have come to realise after being asked so many time "Are you getting scared?" that im not so much scared about the pain of giving birth because as i see it, its for a good cause and i have wanted this baby for soooo long that to go through that knowing that she is arriving any minute is nothing. What is scaring me is the pain afterwards. For example stitches from tearing or possible episotomy or if i have a caesarean, the scar and healing time etc. Anyone else have views regarding being scared etc?

Paula, any pain will be temporary. The joy your baby girl brings will be forever. ;) Fear of pain seems normal to me and no doubt I'll be the same when I get to that stage! I was scared of how painful the recovery would be after my lap. I did everything I could to prepare and in the end it wasn't as bad as expected. It did hurt, but I barely used the pain meds (panadeine forte and voltaren) they sent home with me from the hospital because it was tolerable without them. I guess my point is that I used the fear to motivate me to prepare things beforehand so that I had an easier time when recovering.

Gotta go. Just found out the report-from-hell is preventing me from taking a day off tomorrow as planned (again) and I'm really p*ssed off now... :angry:

Hi all you beautiful ladies!

Thanks Paula, Brunette & Renee for your input on bras - I'm a 14D so found the same problem with the underwires Renee. Luckily I found some comfy ones the other day at Target - 2 for $35! I'm stoked, as the ones at Myer were $45 each and not nearly as comfortable. I'm slightly concerned about a lot of the mono-boob bras out there though, where they make 2 BBs merge into 1?! Tried a couple of them on, oh my god, I looked like my nanna! :lol:

LondonMiss - am dead pleased that you stood up to that OB! Way to go :dance: Hopefully she'll think twice about dismissing another patient so easily. Its a pet hate of mine, doctors that don't listen to their patients... had a doc tell me once that I had wind and I should take De-Gas, when I actually had endo and PCOS, don't get me started :angry: Fantastic news that the fibroids aren't in the way of anything. Hope time is not ticking away too slowly for you... I'm sure it is, though! One thing is for certain, that baby WILL come out.

Paula - I'm already having fears about 2 things - tearing, and having to have an epidural. The former is understandable I guess (although I'll be doing everything I can to prevent it!), as for the epi - I've always had issues about needles and spines, makes my teeth go all tingly with fear! I've just had a girlfriend become dreadfully sick from a botched epidural too - spinal fluid leak, headaches from the leak, infection when they tried to fix the leak, on and on - she ended up back in hospital twice in the last week. So I'll be doing everything I can to avoid having an epidural, I reckon. (Ask me though when I'm in labour, could be another story...) Sounds like you are enjoying the last days/weeks of your pg, how wonderful! You sound radiant.

Renee - that's no good that MS is still hanging around! You poor chook. Good that you can get a few days of eating in though, before the next bout. :crossfingers: it'll pass soon. Had some friends who lost their MS around 16-18 weeks. And yay for your belly popping out! Envious, I'm still just looking fat :) KWYM about not being able to take advantage of the sales, we're not finding out either, and have soooo much stuff that people are lining up to give us (both boy and girl stuff), we don't need a thing! D'oh.

Juniper - BOO to the Report from Hell ruining your day off! That sucks. Hope you have a nice relaxing weekend to make up for it.

Hi to YogiBear, wantbaby, Brunette, and all that I've missed, hope you're all cooking away nicely!

AFM - not much to report, all seems to be going well. The cat is well and truly out of the bag now in terms of announcing our pg, have had a few messages from people who've heard it 2nd hand and are miffed we haven't called them! God, the pressure starts early, doesn't it?! Waiting for my belly to pop, some days its bigger than others, and I get excited, then it goes back in a bit, and I just look fat again. Ah well, soon I'll be whingeing that its in the way, so I can't complain!

Have a lovely weekend all. Must away and attend to our lamb shanks that we're having for dinner... yum...

Hello everyone, hope all are well

LondonMiss - how bl00dy annoying that doc!! But great news that all is ok and the fibroids are not going to cause a prob, thank goodness. If there is only one thing i have learnt from this whole ivf/ttc business over the years it is to not put all trust in one doctor and to definitely trust your own instincts. Its certainly made me stronger to stand up and voice concerns to doctors, especially when they think "they know it all"!!

Leabie - must be so exciting telling people about your pg now...i cant wait to feel confident enough to announce it to the world. Although I think i will hold off on telling immediate family for a good while into 2nd trimester as they haven't been very supportive of our journey over the years and we feel they just dont deserve to celebrate in our good news for a while (does that sound selfish?)

i am feeling reallllllllly happpy :) at the moment, i had another bt today and hcg has shot up to over 13 000 (it was 1340 last thurs) so am feeling a little bit more confident about this pg ...well, for now anyway, i am sure i will still worry!! :lol: Only 5 more sleeps til the 7wk scan next tues and am still praying to the almighty powers above that we see a healthy little heartbeat :crossfingers:

If only we had a crystal ball to check if things will be ok?!!

Have a lovely night ladies, big hi to you all xxx

Paula~ Talk about being scared? I just got home from my LAST ob app.My time and date is booked for sure now for my c section next friday and ihave my admission forms,zantac(to reduce stomach acids) and antibacterial shower wash.Im ready to go and now that i am im sh****ng myself!! My dh kept looking at me and holding my hand all the way home and questioned me regarding being nervous.....i told him that the baby can stay where she is as i am too scared of the actual surgery.I know i have had one before but i also had a negative experience with it all.
I need to do some serious meditation and relaxation techniques from now til then...hopefully i will relax.

Yogi Bear~Thats great news about your hcg levels.FX your scan goes well :) xx


Leabie~ I have a stack of $12-$15 bras from Kmart that have been great so far.Im only small but my cup size went from an a to a c so finding 10c is hard but the brand is Bub2b.
Its good finding some that arent too expensive.I stopped wearing underwires since the very beginning and put one on for a little lift last week and OMG they hurt! Im not sure i can ever feel comfortable in a underwire again.

Everyone else...belly rubs to all and wishing you all the best.
AFM,i had my final...yes,final appointment today.Bub is lying head down but on her side and is not engaged at all.She is resting with her head slightly on my left hip....crazy!!
It seems i have babies that dont know how to engage!! My son never engaged either!! Anyhow i have my instructions,shower gel and zantac tabs and am booked in for next friday at 7am.Im soooo nervous.Im excited too,but still nervous. Dh and i have been arguing about having his parents there that afternoon.I dont want them there til the saturday but as im having my mum bring our son in,he thinks its unfair.Problem is,i dont get along with them that much.They arent emotional,caring,sensitive people and like someone else just mentioned above,never really supported our IVF journey,never asked about it or offered any assistance whereas my mum,(who is my best friend) was there every step of the way.I told dh several times how i feel and he tells me tonight at the app,that he couldnt say no to his dad as he will be down in sydnet=y for work that day and wants to come and meet his grandchild.Im so upset about it.I mentioned to dh that i was particularly uncomfortable with his dad being there as i will be recovering from a c section,will have a catheter in til sat morning,trying to breastfeed AND will probably be soaking through several pads!! He doesnt get it!! My dad died when i was young and i still wouldnt even want my OWN father to see me like that! I feel mean but cant get over it.Any ideas??? maybe i should run away and have the baby in the forest where no one can find me til IM ready to show my "exposed" self???
Well thats my whinge.Will keep you all updated.x0x0x

Wantbaby2 - I'm sorry to hear your dramas. It's funny isn't it how your body is assumed to be a bit more public property than before isn't it. I think it's perfectly reasonable for your inlaws to want to see the baby and for your husband to want to show him/ her off. What's not reasonable is them not making the mental leap of how that might make you feel at that early stage. I don't think I want to get my boobs out in front of my male relations full stop - I didn't last week so why would I next week? I think you should tell DH to take the baby to his father if there is a waiting room or something, there normally seems to be a sort of general area, and leave you be for an hour. If the baby needs feeding in that time, well sorry grandpa, time for him to go and get you all a coffee whilst you at least get a chance to cover up with numerous muslins and stuff. I'm assuming the catheter kind of comes out under the bed clothes, and attachs to the bed? So it shouldn't be too embarrassing hopefully?

Yogi Bear - no, perfectly reasonable! LTTTC does make you more selfish, but I think that it's a natural instinct and not a bad thing. You are focused on the outcome and results, everyone else isn't. I'd enjoy the secret whilst you can and lie about your due date....and leabie, peoples reactions to such things tell you so much about them. I was telling my neighbour yesterday about photos and stuff and told her they would be all on facebook (with two international families, you have to!) and she said, but I can't use facebook and more to the point didn't want to be shown. My father in law is the same, he wants me to "just post a few pics from time to time". But I can hazard a guess on where getting them separately printed out photos and taking them to the postoffice with ID to send to the UK, filling in customs forms etc, is going to be when I have a new born, and its just in the list below washing nappies! You just do things the way you are doing them, and if people choose to be wierd/ precious/ self centred then so be it. I'm explaining some of my actions, and why, and if people still choose to do things the way they do them, then the one thing this journey has taught me is that I can't do anything about that, and more to the point, I've got better things to be doing than worrying about their inflexibility.

On the subject of bras, I have found the Elle McPherson ones the best, firstly because they are lovely and look as sexy as a normal bra, and don't just feel like udder carriers like some of the plainer ones. Secondly because they have 6 rows of hooks and eyes, so if like me, your actual boobs are not varying too much, but the size of your back has, they are great because you don't need to buy a new one. They are more expensive, but I recommend buying at least one for 'date nights' or wearing out.

D day and DHs blackberry informs us that we're having a baby today between 8.30 and 9, as it's 8.24 I'd better get ready for 6 minutes of dramatic action!! x

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D day and DHs blackberry informs us that we're having a baby today between 8.30 and 9, as it's 8.24 I'd better get ready for 6 minutes of dramatic action!! x

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:rofl: How did the 6 minutes of dramatic action go?

Bugger all: I am going to be the worlds first lifetime pregnant person. At least I will make lots of money in sponsorship and get to eat lots of cake.

LondonMiss, I swear, if our friends and family are anything to go by, the normal duration of a pregnancy is 41 weeks. We've known very few people who delivered on time or early. Most of them have been induced at a week late. Lol, "lifetime pregnant" isn't an option. Bub has just about outgrown that living space already!!

ETA: Damn! Now I want cake... :P

Paula, I think it's totally normal to be scared about labour. Fear of the unknown has got to be the worst, I reckon. The labour sections of books are the only sections I haven't been able to read, because I don't even want to think about it yet!

LM, Good for you on standing up to your OB. I thought it was hilarious how the more you said it was up to her, the more she panicked and finally sent you off for a scan. Good news that the fibroids aren't in the way. D-day today, huh? As others have said, lifetime PG just ain't an option. FX not long to go now.

Wantbaby2, It's a shame your DH doesn't get that you aren't up to seeing everyone straight after having a CS. I've already schooled my DP that if I need to have a CS (my OB says it's 75% likely that I will have too) then he has to be the "gatekeeper" and tell people when we are ready for visitors, and I doubt that will be when I'm in hospital recovering. We're thinking of saying just my mum and MIL, because quite frankly I don't think anything will be able to keep my mum away LOL. I totally hear you on not wanting people there other than your mum who has supported your entire journey. Maybe DH will come around, and if not then LM's suggestion is a good one I think.

Hi to YogiBear, Leabie, Juniper, CK, Renee and all the other ladies that I've missed due to my "placenta brain" as my cousin calls it :ROFL:

Just wondering if LondonMiss has seen any movement today?....oh how exciting, cant wait to hear the good news!

Juniper you are right. The pain will all be worth it when you think about the joy these little ones are going to bring us all.
leabie i too have a family friend who suffered severe migraines from an epidural for two week starting from the very next day after delivery. She couldnt even lift her head off her pillow to look after her baby. So scary.
Yogi Bear great news on your BT. Only 4 more sleeps till your scan. Scans are always so exciting!
wantbaby#2 Yay on being all booked in but i can only imagine how scared you must be feeling. Having a set date and time and also knowing exactly what to expect as you have been through it before must be very scary indeed. Im sure you will do great. I wish i was having my baby next Friday. My in-laws have been overseas for the past 6 weeks and get back next Saturday and i have been praying that my baby would be born whilst they arent here as they havent really called to check in on me and havent really been as excited as what my parents have been towards my pregnancy. When they left for their holiday they just turned to me and said "if anything happens, good luck with it!" I do get along with them but they are just those sort of people that can be very insensitive at times and really tick me off... i cant even really explain it to be honest. So to be able to say "You werent even here for the birth of your granddaughter" would be very satisfying. Geez i sound horrible but there is just lots of history there.
LondonMiss i have a feeling your baby will be here sooner than you think. Cant wait to read your announcement! :D

Feeling a heavy kind of feeling on my cervix when i walk around. Hopefully that means that bubs head is still in place as i have been feeling pokes in the centre now too not just on my left side which is making me think she may have moved. Looking forward to seeing the Obs on Monday to see what he says.

Yeah I second what YogiBear said...... LM, how's things going? One of my sisters was telling me that she was about a week early for all three of her babies, so I'm hoping that I'm going to buck the trend of first babies being late and follow in big sis's footsteps as I do NOT want a Christmas baby!!

Leabie, I'm currently thinking that when the time comes for me to decide on pain relief, I'll hopefully only ask for some gas - at least then I can feel when I need to push rather than the epidural where you lose sensation and get told when to push. But who knows, when push comes to shove I might cave and ask for every drug they've got!!

WantBaby#2, sorry that DH isn't coming around. I agree with LM, see if DH can take bub out to the in-laws... but then again maybe on the day you'll want to show off bub and will be okay with them ducking into the room for a quick visit with grandchild.

Re bras, I've only grown a few centimetres and appear to still be fitting into my existing bras. As mine don't hurt I'm still in underwires, although as my boobs are now touching my belly the underwire is starting to rub a bit on the top of my belly. My belly starts to pop from right under my BBs, I think everyone's belly kind of sits differently (as What to Expect informs me!) at this early stage.

Still haven't felt bub move yet, although last Friday I had a kind of gurgle thing happen and I coudn't put my finger on what it was, so possibly that might have been baby, possibly wind - ha ha!
Brunette, how are you going with double trouble, any movement yet?

So, Planning & Management Fee - it's due soon, it's $1900. A friend is only being charged $1200 and a friend of hers is paying $3000 apparently!! Is this not a set fee?

I grabbed a Kiddopotamus SwaddleMe on Ebay today, around $10, then after winning the auction realised it was light blue. bugger. I guess it doesn't matter too much, they're only sleeping in it. (unless of course I end up having a boy then it's all good!). Hmmm, may be spending too much time on Ebay lately.... gotta go, Ebay item ending soon!!!

Take care ladies, belly rubs and back massages to all (yes, it's starting to throb, do I have another 22 weeks of this???)
Have a great relaxing weekend.

Chrissy

sorry - still here! Had a superb induction massage earlier and had two or three contractions (I think) and then it's all bloody stopped GRRRRRR. My arse was like a pin cushion with needles in it, and the massage was amazing, one of the best I've ever had. She said that starting the contractions is no more difficult than "open your mind and your @@@@@ will follow"

so I'm off to think about my ***** : )

CK77- The management fee varies depending on doc. Basically you're paying their insurance indemnity- so the more the fee- the higher their insurance premiums (and usually the more claims have been made against them). I'm not saying that docs with higher fees are rubbish- claims can be made for a variety of reasons- not always doctor malpractice. $1900 is pretty good, that's what mine is. I've heard of docs charging up to 5K for theirs.

Hi ladies, just thought I would drop in and introduce myself. I have been ttc #3 for 2 years and did a test yesterday and there was a very faint line - repeated today and there is a definate +ve!!!!
Yesterday I was panicking about the whole thing, today I am excited thinking finally this is really happening after all this time. Will make Drs appointment for this week. Am due in March.
Fingers crossed this one is very very sticky!

Hi All,

Haven't posted in a bit. First, a very late but hearty congrats to Lise and MITF on the births of your beautiful babies! Secondly, LondonMiss, I wish you the best of luck that your little one decides to come out soon -- and quickly!

Welcome to MaggiePie, and a big "hi" to everyone else.

What's new with me is that I had my nuchal scan last week and all, thankfully, was well. It's amazing how well developed they are already even so early along, and it's amazing how clear the scan is. The sonographer put it on 4D so I even got to see baby wriggling around for a while. I didn't realize that they do 4D at the early scans, so that was a nice surprise. Also, I finally get to meet my OB tomorrow. I hope I like him!

Hope you all have a nice rest of your weekend.

KitKat72

Chrissy, I thought I hadn't had any movement yet but on another thread a lady who has already had one child said for your first it's normally not until 18 weeks that you feel movement. That said, she said it's easy to mistake movement for wind (hee hee), a pulse or little bubbles. I have had all of these so maybe movement? My DP reckons he felt a kick the other day - wants me to tell my mum that he felt the first kick, but I think he's just trying to wind me up! No, the OB fee varies depending on the doctor. I didn't know it depended on claims and indemnity insurance (thanks GlennyC). My OB fee is $1600. I have read of others being $3000. It sucks because it used to be covered by Medicare and you could claim 80% of your out-of-pocket if you had reached the extended Medicare Safety Net, but thanks to Rudd he capped the fee and you can only get a little over $400 back! Sucks. Ebay sounds like fun. I had a friend visit today who refers to herself as Queen Ebay. She told me how many bargains there were to be had on Ebay. I must have a look at it soon.

AFM, I had a remedial massage today. It was great. My therapist recommends mandarin essential oil for minimising/preventing stretch marks. Must get me some of that. It smelt so nice.

KitKat, great news on your nuchal scan results. It is amazing to see how much the bub has developed in such a short time, isn't it? Hope you like your OB! Did you find out your baby's gender at your scan? If not, are you planning to at your morph scan?

Hi Paula, keep us informed as to what your OB says at your appointment tomorrow. Bubs wouldn't be engaged already, would she?

Hi and welcome Maggie.

Ah, Brunette, I did not realize they could tell the gender that early! And funny, I was wondering about that since the images were so clear -- but for some dumb reason I didn't ask (I guess b/c I was under the impression it was too early), and I believe the radiology place's policy is not to mention it even if they see something unless you ask. Drats -- because while I know that a lot of people want it to be a surprise, my DH and I actually do want to find out. I guess now I'll have to wait another 6 weeks until the morph scan! Oh well . . .

PS. And funnily, after I e-mailed one of the 4D videos to my mom, she asked, "Did they tell you it's a boy? Because it looks like a boy . . ." and I told her it was too early, so she said she must have been confusing the umbilical cord for the boy bits. Funny, b/c I saw some things that I thought were boy bits too, but assumed they couldn't be that visible that early! Now I'm wondering!

KitKat~Gender cannot be found out prior to 16 weeks when the genitals become fully developed.The only way to find out before that time is by amniocentesis.You will need to wait til the 19-20 week morphology scan and even then,they can be wrong....ask LISE about it.She was told a girl then later at another scan,found out it was actually a boy!
2 Friends of mine,also were told one sex to give birth to the opposite!! I have had it checked 3 times to be sure from 19 weeks onwards and by 2 different obs,to confirm im having a girl and have seen it on the scan for myself up close..but i still worry i'll have a boy after it all.best of luck with your morph scan on finding out.

Hi all just coming in on the sex determination question. I have been told that if you are told it is a boy (when the genitals are fully formed of course after 16 weeks!!) that you are pretty much certain it is a boy but if they say a girl then hold off on buying pink as it could still be a boy. They can never be sure of a girl as those bits can hide and also be too small yet to see. A few of my friends have found out the hard way that lesson!!!