Pregnancy after LT TTC #13

Aaargh, just lost my post! Hate it when that happens! Grrr.

MellyBelly - congrats :confetti: and welcome to the thread!

Lise - great to hear from you and that all is going well. Glad to hear that time starts going more quickly, its still dragging for me!

Worrywart - do you know where your placenta has attached? If its at the back, you might feel it a bit earlier than 20 weeks. FX you feel it sooner rather than later, it is a lovely sensation!

MaggiePie - hope you're feeling better soon :cold:

Renee - sorry to hear that your grandpa hasn't improved, and that work is stressful. Hopefully you can grab a bit of time for yourself to recharge. So exciting that your DH got to feel the bub kick!

Lairdoz - god, the situation at DH's work sounds unbearable, for both of you. DH is right, you concentrate on bub if you can (easier said than done, I'm sure). Thinking of you, sending calming vibes your way!

Marie502 - here's my answers:

Age of mother at time of conception: 36
How many fresh or frozen cycles did it take? 1 (luckily!)
How many cells was the embryo at the time of transfer? 5 day blasty = heaps
What was the problem (unexplained, endo etc) PCOS, endo, ANA
Did you use natural alternatives such as acupuncture as well ivf? acupuncture before/after transfer, chinese herbs
Did you experience any pregnancy symptoms during the tww? Is so, how soon did you feel them? Hardly any - sore BBs as usual from the drugs, strong AF cramping (convinced it was all over!)
How many eggs did you get at retrieval and how many fertilised? 36 retrieved, 24 fertilised (all ICSI)
How many embryos did you get to freeze? 6 (5 x 5 day, 1 x 6 day)

Hope it helps? Like others have said, everyone is different. Keep your positive attitude, its fantastic and will help you through! Best of luck.

Nothing2lose - sorry can't help you, hope everything works out and you get a BFP!

Hi to everyone I've missed and :bellyrubs: to all.

AFM - nothing much to report, DH has been an absolute darling and entertained my great aunts all day! Bless him. I'm driving him nuts, still trying to get him feel a good solid kick, after the half-hearted one he felt the other day. Must calm down and remember that soon, the kicks will be (uncomfortably) detectable!

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Nothing2lose - on the preg test thing, I have always used the tests that say 'test 7-10 after conception' however I have NEVER had a BPF before 3-4 days after AF is due ie day 17-18 (we are talking all three pregnancies here). My first preg I think I was a week overdue before I tested positive, even though I felt I could be preg. And I have charted for all my pregnancies so know exactly when I ovulate. And this is with early morning urine and everything. I know friends who have similar stories. I guess some people build up the hormones quicker than others. So I really hope for you that this is the case and you get a BFP soon, and join us in here!

Welcome MellyBelly and congratulations! Here's to a smooth ride for you and bub!

Worrywart - I think that 16 weeks would be pretty early to feel a kick for a first bub. Mine was about 18 weeks with my first, then about 16 with the second. Don't worry about it and soon enough you will be getting woken up by a kick in the rib or bladder at 3am!

Leabie - thanks am feeling alot better.

Well we have told some of the family. Our DD was so cute, we put her on the phone to the MIL and she said 'I have exciting news, mummy is having a baby'. Then she answered some questions and put the DH on the phone. Didn't get much of a reaction from the MIL, he was off the phone about a minute later! She has always said we are silly for wanting another baby as two is enough and we will be too busy etc etc. I think she is just talking from her own experience but she is quite opinionated about things so doesn't surprise me there wasn't much of a positive reaction. His brother rang today though so she must have gotten on the phone to the others. Then we had my parents over for dinner last night. DD and DS both ran to the door to greet them. DD was so excited she could hardly speak, but eventually got it out. Mum was excited. Dad just said 'I told you so I knew she was pregnant' - he seems to be good at picking when people are it's weird. Also rang sister today (who is due in Jan) and she was excited too! So now just brother to tell then the world... although DD has started telling everyone she sees so will be interesting if brother doesn't already know by wednesday when I see him. Really glad we let DD tell everyone as she feels very special now and involved and important.

Have a great week everyone. Am going to have cornflakes even though it's night time

Hi all

Mellybelly - Congrats and welcome:confetti:! Hope you have a very happy and healthy nine months.

Maggie - Don't you just love MIL's. Due to is living away from both sets of parents we alternate x'mas every year between the two families. This yr is meant to be with DH's family in Dubbo (the hottest place on earth in summer) and since bub is due 28th we naturally won't be going. You would think MIL would have just assumed that would be the case but she seemed most upset the other day when DH had to actually say we wouldn't be there! We have lived in Newcastle now for nearly 5 yrs and not once have they been over to visit, god only knows what will happen when bub is born. :wall:

lise - Hi Glad everything is going well, :jawdrop:can't believe it has been 7 weeks!!!!

Leabie - It took 22 wks for my DH to feel bub kick (my placenta is at the front) it will happen, and your right then you will want it to stop!!!

Worrywort - I was nearly 21 wks before i felt bub. My placenta is at the front (which they will tell you at 20 wk scan) so it can be awhile if that is the case. It will happen!

:hello:and :bellyrubs:to everyone else.

Thanks everyone for your thoughts. My grandad is slowly improving but i think it will just be a matter of time now. Glad i got to see him when i did. DH has not had his hands off my stomach since he felt the kick. He asks every half hour if it is moving, LOL! He tells everyone he can, so cute! I have spent all weekend painting and am now paying for it with the sorest back! I just can't sit still ATM and feel like i need to be cleaning or fixing something. Weird!!!:dunno:

Renee, how gorgeous your DH feeling the first kick and then asking every half hour if bub is kicking! Not very understanding of your MIL re expecting you to travel to Dubbo to see her in the circumstances, esp when she hasn't travelled to see you guys the entire time you've lived in Newcastle!

Mellylbelly, welcome and congratulations.

Marie, GL with IVF. Here are my answers to your questions:

Age of mother at time of conception: 37
How many fresh or frozen cycles did it take? Five. Was successful on a frozen cycle.
How many cells was the embryo at the time of transfer? Two thawed at day 3, transferred at day 5. One was enlarged blastie and the other was a hatching blastie.
What was the problem (unexplained, endo etc) Hubby had sperm issues post a vasectomy reversal and I was unexplained but likely hormonal imbalance as the first time we had oestrogen prescribed it worked. Plus we tried clexane, baby aspirin and prednisone.
Did you use natural alternatives such as acupuncture as well ivf? Yes - acupuncture and both hubby and I saw a naturopath, but for us we firmly believe it was the oestrogen that did the trick. We were no longer seeing the naturopath or acupuncturist on the cycle that worked.
Did you experience any pregnancy symptoms during the tww? Is so, how soon did you feel them? The only symptom was cramping in my lower stomach - can't remember if lower left or lower right, but unlike period cramping and never felt this type of cramping before.
How many eggs did you get at retrieval and how many fertilised? Ranged from 7 to 15 depending on the cycle.
How many embryos did you get to freeze? We have six frozen embryos

Maggie, poor from from your MIL I reckon.

Worrywart, I think I first felt bubbles/quickening around the 19-week mark and first gentle kicks at around 20 weeks. It is amazing and don't worry you will feel it. I love the kicks my twins give me, though I am not satisfied because Twin 1 kicks all the time and Twin 2 is much more reserved, so I start to worry if she is okay ... and then sure enough I'll eventually get a kick or some movement from her, letting me know she's just fine.

Nothing2lose, sorry never had a false negative so can't help/comment with that.

Hi to Lise. Amazing how quickly time flies, hey? It feels like just the other week you were in this thread and yet Finn is now 7 weeks old!

Leabie, don't worry, soon both you and DH will be feeling heaps of kicks. I love my kicks; it is when I feel most connected to my babies. I have started singing nursery rhymes to them, and I talk to them and encourage them to kick - and they mostly hit my hand like it's a bull's eye every time. Well, Twin 1 does most of the time hee hee. The kicks are getting stronger and sometimes feel like they're pulling my skin up with their kicks. I can see them move too now. Love it!

MellyBelly - welcome, and here's hoping you have a happy and healthy 9 mths.

Marie - my answers: (also my best mate in Melbourne got a BFP on her first round IVF/ICSI - PCOS issue diagnosed during IVF process and DH has very low motility)

Age of mother at time of conception: 32
How many fresh or frozen cycles did it take? 1 x fresh
How many cells was the embryo at the time of transfer? Blastocyst Day 5 transfer
What was the problem (unexplained, endo etc)? Endo discovered during laparoscopy/hysteroscopy and removed, fibroid also discovered and removed (had no symptoms of the endo or fibroid), regarding DH's sperm it was slightly on the low side and ICSI was decided on the day of pick up.
Did you use natural alternatives such as acupuncture as well ivf? acupuncture in the weeks leading up to it all, as well as thru to week 13 of pregnancy.
Did you experience any pregnancy symptoms during the tww? Is so, how soon did you feel them? no pregnancy symptoms and zero morning sickness through pregnancy
How many eggs did you get at retrieval and how many fertilised? About 15-20 from memory, and about 12 fertilised but dwindled down to about 5 decent ones.
How many embryos did you get to freeze? 3

Good luck with your TWW :crossfingers:

Renee - fantastic that DH managed to feel bubs kick, it makes it a bit more 'real' for them and I think a bit easier to share the emotions and excitement. What paint are you using? I'm letting DH paint the nursery all by himself.

Worrywort - I was at 18 1/2 week when I absolutely knew without a doubt that it wasn't just a stomach gurgle or wind, it was my baby. The kicks have been so strong that at 21 weeks I was lying in the bathtub and my stomach moved! Now that is a regular occurance and I can sit at my desk at work and watch it, then I give it a bit of a poke back ;) Brunette, I think it's so cool that you can tell your twins apart!

I've got a big seat of headphones (they look like DJ ones) and at night I've been playing the baby 'Lovely Baby' music which is apparently good for it's development. Brunette, I'd sing nursery rhymes but I need to get up to speed with them it's been so long!! (plus I can't carry a tune so would only do that when DH isn't home):o

Okay, new episode of True Blood is nearly ready for me and DH to watch, must go!!

Take care everyone, and massive belly rubs to you all.

Oh, before I go, how rude are people on trains that sit on the seats for disabled, pregnant, elderly people??!! I had to try to squeeze my fat belly past 3 people sitting in a 4 person seat configuration to try to sit in the spare seat at the window yet the men in suits that were neither disabled, pregnant or elderly just watched!!! :protest:

Chrissy xx

Chrissy, I think those days are gone... One of the train rides last week there was me and another pregnant lady (she was obviously pg, whereas I just look fat) both standing up while teenagers and obviously fit/healthy adults were in the seats... P*ssed me off, but didn't surprise me. I think it makes it all the more special when someone does offer their seat though.

Marie - sorry for the delay. I couldn't easily copy/paste on my phone last week.

Age of mother at time of conception: 34 (just - EPU was 4 days after my birthday)
How many fresh or frozen cycles did it take? we did 5 x fresh and 1 x FET - this BFP was from our 5th fresh cycle
How many cells was the embryo at the time of transfer? we transferred a 2-cell and a 4-cell - don't know which one worked
What was the problem (unexplained, endo etc)? we were diagnosed as "unexplained" for the first four fresh cycles and the FET, but a lap in March this year (with a new FS) showed stage III endo; DH's s/a results were also borderline for the morphology, so our new FS chose to do ICSI this time (previously did natural fertilisation with similar fertilisation rates)
Did you use natural alternatives such as acupuncture as well ivf? I started acupuncture in August last year - I stopped for a few months after IVF#4 but started going again after my lap in March; I'm currently going every 3 weeks (was every week for 1st tri)
Did you experience any pregnancy symptoms during the tww? Is so, how soon did you feel them? I had some bloating late in the 2ww, I also found I was quite weepy towards the end (which was also the first sign I had for my first BFP); I thought I was out of the running though when I had (light) bleeding at 14 & 15dpo
How many eggs did you get at retrieval and how many fertilised? we had 5 eggs this time, 4 fertilised but only 2 divided - we transferred those two on day 2
How many embryos did you get to freeze? we currently have 1 frozen embryo from our cycle in May 2009 (IVF#3), we also had 2 frozen embryos from IVF#1 which we used for our FET (produced transferrable/freezable 3 embies both of those cycles) - we haven't had frozen embies from any other cycle (IVF#2 and IVF#5 we only had 2 usable embies, both of which were transferred fresh, and IVF#4 we had nothing to transfer, let alone freeze), which is why we've done so many fresh cycles

Hi girls
have been checking in every day,but haven't had chance to post as worked Fri/Sat/Sun then slept when home and then scrolling up and down makes me feel more nauseaus!

welcome mellybelly!! congratulations!! My mum's b'day is 9th May, and never a sweeter personality could you find.
worrywort - I too have no patience....that's something I found very very very hard to deal with on the whole IVF journey.

ntl - sorry have never had a false positive or false negative. Good luck though and hope to see you here soon.

maggiepie - it's a shame your MIL gave you that response, as my dh said when I read it to him, 'charming!' cute for your wee ones to feel included though.

Brunette - it's so cool for you to be able to tell which twin is which and that they respond to well to touch. I can't wait for that.

afme - almost 10 weeks and still shattered and nauseaus. Had a moment of feeling sorry for myself - just want to feel 'normal', but then i think of why and it makes it bearable again. I am loving fruit salad that DH prepared the last 2 nights. yum yum yum. He thinks it's funny cos I have to vet everything with my nose before it goes in bowl. the only thing that was no was passionfruit - slightl turned, and tinned mango - texture.
but strawberry, pineapple, apple, watermelon, orange, cherries. yeh!
also liking bagels with philly spread on them. oh and hot chocolate sits nicely. on my week off work now - thank goodness, and seeing my friend who's bringing her 2 dogs over for a play date with mine and her 6 month old twins.
xx

Hi all, I think posts from 30 August have been deleted ... Has anyone else found this?

With placenta brain I can't remember when I last posted and if I posted anything after 30 August which has now been deleted ...

Oh well, how is everyone? I'm getting kicked as I type this and the kicks are starting to get uncomfortable. Over the last few days the swelling has also hit my fingers which is quite uncomfortable as I get tingling throughout the day and also at night which feels like a dead arm and forces me to wake up and roll over. Aaaagh the joys of being UTD :)

Hi Ladies! Welcome back, we have lost 2 weeks of info and data and everything! I lost my cool new avvy :(
Oh well how is everyone, i had my 12 week scan yesterday it was awesome!!!

Brunette i imagine getting kicked by 2 is a bit different than just one! Tell them to calm down! LOL

Jaki, the 12-week scan is brilliant, isn't it? Hard to believe that in just 12 weeks a baby is practically totally formed, when only eight weeks ago it started out as two cells! Yes, when the two kick together as they have been lately you really know about it. One is kicking under my ribs and the other is kicking down low. Ow!

Hi Everyone,

How's everyone going?

Jaki, great news about your scan! The 12 week scan is just brilliant. You can really see the whole picture.

We had our scan yesterday and everything was looking good! It was such a treat to see the baby.

We didn't find out boy/girl but I just think it's a girl. I mean, I think that's what I noticed on the scan, but I shouldn't have looked really ... My DH was adamant that we don't find out, but I suddenly couldn't help myself but try to figure it out. Also, I had a kind of strange experience, basically just an anxiety that I would have trouble being a good mum to a daughter. This is really hard to talk about (I've had a few tears last night). It's just because I've always struggled with my own mum and I've had 3 younger brothers, who I looked after quite a bit when they were little and I guess, I just can't imagine or see myself with a little girl. Plus, whenever I play with friends' little girls, I just feel nervous, like they're judging me or like they're not having any fun with me. But whenever I play with little boys, I just feel relaxed and unselfconscious. This is weird hey?

I am horrified btw that I seem to have a "preference". I've always felt a lot of anger towards people (esp those who had it easy conceiving) who express that preference. Now I feel a lot of anger towards myself!

Deep down, though, I'm really very happy and scared and excited. It seems a lot more real.

Also, sorry for no other persies, I am confused and don't have a good enough memory right now given that all the messages are gone!!

Take care ladies,
WW

Brunette, I tried to reply to your post last night but something went wrong and I lost the site again... If you subscribe to BB's page on facebook there's an explanation of the problem and the missing data (short version - server died and hadn't been backed up for 2 weeks). Sorry to hear the twins are making you uncomfortable. I hope they're a bit nicer to you today.

Jaki, congrats on the great 12wk scan!! Hopefully they've got a copy of you avvy on file somewhere (ie hopefully it wasn't only on the server).

WW, great to hear the scan went well! Try not to be too hard on yourself for having a preference (however small). I have no doubt you'll love your little baby just the same no matter what sex it is! DH & I have wanted a girl for a long time, but we'd honestly have been just as happy with boy (now that I've found out we're having a girl I'm actually hoping if we're lucky enough to get #2 at some point that we will get a boy). It's more important to us that we have a healthy baby to take home. The only people who upset me are the ones who are so bitterly disappointed in the sex that they resent their child.

Ah, I've just figured out what an `avvy' is. I didn't want to come across as not being in the know so I didn't ask ...

Juniper, they are not being nice to me today either. I am just the punching bag to these littl'uns. Wait till they come out, I tell you ... I am going to give them a slap and a kick. Just joking! Don't call child welfare services on me :)

WW, the fact that you're already worried or questioning whether you are going to be a good mum to your bub already makes you a good mum as far as I'm concerned. I've done the same; worrying if I am going to be a good mum to two, but at the end of the day as long as we try our best that is all we can do. You will be a great mum, don't worry. Glad to hear your 12-week scan went well.

Hi all,

Glad I wasn't the only one having problems with BB. One day I wrote a big long one then lost it, don't you hate it when that happens.

Brunette - those naughtly babies! Do you think it is aimed at you or are they actually arguing with each other? Maybe they are trying to assert their dominance on each other before they come out. I am imagining them in the car in a few years time... 'Mum, so and so hit me!' I hope they settle down soon, but it is probably unlikely you poor thing. When do you go back to the OB? Hoping the next US is more reassuring for you with the PP. And what is an 'avvy' I haven't figured it out yet.

Worry wart, I get you with the gender thing. I always imagined myself having lots of girls. With #2 I was pretty certain that I was having a girl, and when HE came out I was quite surprised. It took me a few minutes to digest but seriously, when that bub comes out the feelings you have for them they could be an alien and you would still love them instantly. You will bond with your little girl and when you see her you will probably wonder what you were worried about. This time is tricky for us, as we have one of each we are happy either way, but DD really wants a little sister and is convinced the baby is a girl. So for her sake I am hoping its a girl, but then I feel very guilty thinking that. So you are not alone worrying about this..

As for the parenting thing, believe me if you are worried about whether you will be a good parent or not - you will be. People who are 'bad' parents don't think about things like that. Just do what you can, and be forgiving to yourself as no one is perfect. You will be great, have faith.

AFM - we are going to the coast this weekend, the in laws are having the kids for two whole nights and we are staying at a hotel. Only the second time since having kids we have been away from them, and the first time was one night for an engagement party so didn't have time to ourselves. I am planning on sleeping in, and just doing nothing!

Keep well everyone

Hoorah! We're back on the air!

Brunette - maybe the plus side to having to put up with the double kicks is that they'll be so crowded in there soon, they won't be able to "pack a punch", so to speak?! Fingers crossed at any rate.

Jaki - yay for the 12 week scan! My DH sat there through the whole thing saying "holy sh*t!" repeatedly (how classy, who knows what the sonographer thought of us :redface:) because it just blows you away, all the detail.

Worrywart - sweetie, its no wonder you are feeling anxious about a girl, with how you grew up. Its mainly a matter of what you're used to, though, you haven't spent much time around girls by the sounds. As everyone else says too, you're going to be a fantastic mum because a) you are conscious of your role as a parent, and b) you've fought damn hard for this baby! When and if the time comes that you have a daughter, you'll find your way. Don't forget there are lots of resources out there to help us new mums too - books, classes, people to talk to etc.

Juniper - happy half way! :dance: Hope you're feeling OK sweetie. You're on the downhill run now...

MaggiePie - an "avvy" is an avatar, the picture that some people have at the top of their message. Have a great time away this weekend! How exciting, dirty weekend :D Hope you have a nice relax, and enjoy the sleep ins.

AFM - all good here, I'm listening to the neighbour across the road with her 6 kids (the youngest 2 are twins) playing/fighting/screaming in their front yard, and just enjoying the peace and quiet in my house! :lol: I've really popped out over the last couple of weeks, but strangely its on one side more than the other? :o Went to a party on Saturday night, and EVERYONE patted my tummy, it seemed. I took great delight in telling them they were just patting my stomach/dinner, and that the baby was further down... I'm so mean! :D

Hope you're all keeping well!

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I took great delight in telling them they were just patting my stomach/dinner, and that the baby was further down... I'm so mean! :D

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Lol, I'm the same! I've only had a couple of people put their hands on my belly, but both of them did it up high so I told them it was just my flab they were patting... ;)

MaggiePie, have a great time on the weekend!

Leabie, my stomach feels so tight that already with all the growing and stretching that has been going on. Hopefully (but also scarily) there are plenty more weeks yet to go. I am going to be huge! I feel like I am carrying low, which is kind of good because I haven't been getting too much indigestion and only recently been getting kicking under the ribs. Love how you observe the madness and chaos of your neighbour's 6 children from the solitude of your home! Why do people keep touching pregnant women's stomachs? I havent' had it happen too many times to me thank god.

Maggie, as Leabie said, an avvy is an avatar. Enjoy your weekend with your DH. You deserve it as you two haven't been alone for ages!

Leabie - I get it constantly at school all day from many grubby little hands, i even had a mother the other day come straight up and rub my stomach who then said God it hated it when people did that to me!! Well you didn't give me a chance to say hands off lady!!!

Brunette - I hear you on the low kicks but not the high ones yet, I guess one has to go up and one has to go down!! Very cute:D

Maggiepie - Have a great weekend away just you and DH. Enjoy the "alone time"!!

WW - You will be a fabulous mum, like the others have said just by thinking that already shows that you are more than ready. Many people have a preference as to what sex they would like, but at the end of the day when your baby arrives you won't even care about that fact and just be overjoyed he/she has come into your life. Sorry that was very Dr Phil.

Jaki - Yay on 12 wk scan. My 12 wk 3D pics were better than the 20 wk ones cause b8ub can fit on the entire screen and we got some great ones. 20 wk ones were just of the head and not as clear.

Glad to be back on BB, thought i was going crazy for awhile. Bub is going nuts lately and i think i am starting to get cankles come the end of the day especially after work.

LOL Leabie, thats funny. My DH kept repeating, 'is he ok, so everything is there, its all normal?' I was like, give her a chance!!!!

On the touching tummy thing, i am showing very early and i am very big! So all the people i work with are constantly touching it! And i kind of dont mind but im like, your touching a layer of fat, even tho it nice and round ;)

Thanks to everyone for the encouraging comments! The feeling has passed thank goodness, and I'm just excited again. Last night we were going over names for boys and girls and I suddenly felt that anxiety lift and was just so happy to be having a new person coming along!

My bro and SIL found out that they are having a little girl. So if we do have a little girl, it will 100 per cent girls on both sides of the family (on the grandchild level).

WW, that's sweet that your little bub might have a female cousin around the same age to play with. My first cousin's wife is pregnant with their first child. They're overseas ATM so not sure exactly how far along she is, but I was thinking it will be nice at Xmas and family gatherings to have another relative with a child of similar age for our twins to play with. Glad to hear you're feeling less anxious about being a mum. Totally understandable, esp for first-time mums and I'm sure we've all been there. I know I have :)

Renee, damn those cankles. I'm getting used to the sore feet and slight swelling in my ankles, but it's this godawful pins and needles I've been getting since a week ago in my right hand only that is doing my head in. It's numb during the night and wakes me up and I have to move position, and even during the day it's horrible tingling - even now as I type it's tingling away. I just hate it. It's carpet tunnel according to a physio who did a cameo appearance at our antenatal class today. How's that woman's form putting her hand on your stomach when she hated others doing it to her when PG. Honestly, some people!

Hi girls

I will be MIA for a week or so as my grandfather passed away over the weekend. I will be in Sydney for the rest of the week.
Good Luck to everyone who is having scans or tests done this week. Hopefully i will be able to catch up on the goss when i get back.

Sorry to hear that, Renee.

:hug: Sorry for you loss Renee. Take it easy.

Sorry to hear that Renee. :comfort:

Hi girls,

Renee, so sorry to hear about your grandfather. I hope the week goes as well as it possibly can. Try and get some rest, it will probably be really busy and obviously emotionally draining.


Brunette and Leabie - thats for the avvy translation! Brunette, did the physio mention that wrist splints can help the carpal tunnel? They will help to keep the wrists straight at night and prevent flexion which makes it worse. Any physio practice will have them and they are usually quite successful.

On the tummy thing, I am a bit funny about people touching me at the moment as I am only 14 weeks so not really that big in the scheme of things and have lots more fat than I did for #1 & #2. So I just feel like they're grabbing fat! Luckily it's only my sister etc who have done that so it doesn't really matter. I hate it when randoms go for a grab though, this time I am determined that I will just rub their tummies back and see how they like it. I mean, what is it about a pregnant belly that means open slather??? With #1 I remember having this random lady in the shopping queue just come up and rub my belly.

Our weekend away was such bliss. Although couldn't sleep in, was nice to lay in bed, sit around reading, go for slow walks on the beach etc. And we had some great food each day (eg Indian and Spanish which we would never take the kids to). Two nights was enough though, was missing kids by then and happy to pick them up. Now just have to unpack everything... Would highly recommend to everyone with kids that they get away at least once a year to have some couple time. We have a strong relationship but felt like the weekend has sent us back to honeymoon mode!!! Have booked the in laws in again for next year, will obviously take bub as will still be breastfeeding but am sure it will be just as good.

Have a great week..

Just wanted to quickly pop in and say how sorry I am to hear about your grandfather, Renee. Our grandparents are such an important part of our lives, it's such a sad loss, but he will always be with you :)

Hi to all you lovely ladies - I'm laying low yet again because I have cold number #5 for this pregnancy......hopefully (she says!) I will be back on track by the beginning of next week and back into the marital bed because my coughing keeps my poor DH awake (he offered to sleep on the couch but I actually enjoy sleeping on our couches as they are so comfy!).
xxx

Hi girls

hey there not feeling flash today so just a quick note.

Sorry about your grandfather Renee.

Am feeling so ill and tired today. To boot I have a terrible backache which had me on the verge of thinking I had 'flu symptoms' and needing to rush to emergency in case of listeria. So all in all its been a bit crap. Sorry for the stuck out bottom lip.

Hope you're well.

Maggie, yes the physio mentioned splints for carpal tunnel and I picked one up on Saturday straight after antenatal. I only need one because it's only my right hand/wrist that is affected. It has really made a difference. I've also heard acupuncture helps so I might see if I can get in this week. I had a good laugh at you rubbing random strangers' tummies in return for just touching yours without asking! Classic - I love it and I think it will work :) It is nice to get away with just your partner, isn't it? While these babies will be my first, my partner has three children from his first marriage and I know how much I appreciate our time together. No doubt that will be harder in a couple of months time! So must plan to rope in my mum for some alone time, even if it's just one night for dinner to start with while the babies are little.

Melly, hope you're feel better soon.

Gosh Lairdoz, you have had a bad run with colds this PG. Take it easy, drink plenty of fluids, get some vitamin C and zinc into you ... no doubt all the things you know about and are doing :) I find that taking Berocca Performance a couple of times a day is really beneficial.

Question for those who have had heartburn/indigestion before: what is safe to take and what is effective? I have only had a mild case a few times, usually after eating, but I got it this morning in bed before having breakfast and I figure it will be a regular occurrence now that the twins are pushing my internal organs upwards!

Hi girls,

Brunette, on the heartburn thing, I know that Rennie's and Quickease are ok. Not sure about other brands but there are some which aren't ok so maybe ask the pharmacist when you get them.

Lairdoz, hope the cold settles soon. I am just starting to get over my sinus infection which has hung around for 14 weeks so I feel your frustration. Just try and take it easy.

Melly Belly, hope you are feeling better soon too, rest up.

I went for my Dr's appointment today, got to hear the heartbeat on the dopper, all good. Risk of downs syndrome etc was very low 1/15000 for scan and 1/50000 when combined with blood test. These are lower risk than for my other kids (not that they were high) so feeling really good about that. Well must get to work, lots booked in this afternoon...

Brunette, Mylanta is safe. I've got a bottle of the liquid at home (supposed to work quickest, but has to be kept in fridge once open) and a box of the tablets in my desk at work.

Lairdoz, look after yourself and get better quickly. :comfort:

MaggiePie, yay for great results! Glad you had a good weekend away too.

Renee, so sorry about your grandad. Hope the next few days aren't too stressful.

Lairdoz and MellyBelly, hope you two feel better soon. Lairdoz, recurrent colds are so frustrating, esp since you prob don't want to over-do the vitamins and I think echinacea is out whilst preg. I really love the steam-inhalations myself, just boiling water, really really hot. That's if you can breathe it in. Plus no sweets, I reckon. Maybe you're not a sweet-tooth like me, but too much sugar can really compromise your immune system. Melly, you stick that lip out - why shouldn't you be grumpy feeling so average? Don't feel bad.

Maggie, really glad to hear about your scan results. Your weekend sounds awesome.

Brunette, yes, I think it's so lucky that s/he will have cousins of the same age. I am really close with my cousins. We're already thinking of our 5 year old niece as babysitter! And as for your carpal tunnel, was that a pre-pregnancy thing? Maybe exacerbated by pregnancy? I've been waking up with a numb hand (right) too. Weird. Also, really sore thighs and legs ... anyone else had this?

AFM, DH felt baby kick the other night. It was a miracle. So lucky, because to me it felt like quite a tiny ticklish movement, but he had his hand in just the right spot and he said it felt really distinct.

Belly rubs to everyone,
WW

Maggie, those results are amazing. It makes me worry a bit about mine; we couldn't have combined bloods because of twins but it was about 1:600ish for twin 1 and 1:400ish from memory. Still the result was termed low risk and they never recommended an amnio or any further testing ... so hopefully they're okay. Thanks for the info on relief of heartburn.

WW, never had diagnosed carpal tunnel prior to PG but I do a lot of typing and have had problems in my right hand and it's pretty weak, so probably not surprising that I've now got it. Just hope it goes away after PG and I don't need to have it operated on. Do you get the pins and needles and swelling in your right hand, too? Did you have any problems prior to being PG? That's great that your DH got to hear the baby kick. It's so nice when the babies stop being shy and kick others instead of just us, hey?

Juniper, thanks for the tip about what's safe to take for heartburn.

ok so we're back online again! stupid me kept trying to access from my favourites....then I got an email saying there was an update on the thread....so I googled and got into forum that way! doh!

Renee - so sorry about your grandfather, I was close to mine also when I lost him and it is so difficult. hugs.

I have to go for brekky - NOW - but just wanted to say hi and will do persies later. After 7 weeks of nausea I've been sick twice this last few days...once just liquid (tmi) and last night proper sick.... ;-(
Had scan yesterday and all good, nuchal scan today. xx

airline, GL with the nuchal scan! Can't wait to hear how it goes!

Worrywart, so great that your DH felt bubba kick, that would have been so special for him.

Brunette, I am sorry I have made you worry about the numbers. From memory one of my other kids was much higher odds but still in the low risk category. If your Dr isn't worried then there is no reason for you to be (makes sense but i get where you are coming from). Interestingly the Dr told me that based on my age the odds were 1:300 but the test results override that number. On the carpal tunnel thing, if you are still doing alot of typing etc, I would go and see a physio and actually get some treatment. It does have the potential to get alot worse in preg, esp if you are doing typing etc. Most carpal tunnel never needs surgery if treatment is started early - although the ortho specialists will always want to rush to surgery. I am a physio and although it's impossible to diagnose how bad it is over the computer to me it sounds like its worth it. If you speak to your Dr they may be able to do a enhanced primary care plan and this will get you 5 visits where you can claim back about $45 a visit from medicare, or if you have private health you may be covered. Anyway just a thought. And how is the heartburn going? Since our weekend away eating lots of spicy food I have been into the Rennies!

Airline hope your nuchal scan goes really well today. You poor thing with the vomiting, maybe it was something you ate? Hope there is no more of that.

AFM - such a nice day today weeded the garden then started spreading some compost and forgot to have morning tea, then had a big sugar low and still recovering. Mental note to self - eat every 2 hours. So thought some computer time would make me sit down at least. Well must go and pay bills.

brunette - my girlfriend had twins and was told that one of her babies would probably be downs (don't know no.s) and they were both born fine, so if your doc says it's good, go with that xx

maggiepie - hope you felt better later on yesterday after your sugar low. watch that compost!! I haven't done any gardening...and it's showing, so we've roped mum & dad to come and help next week as I feel bad DH is going to to have to do the majority - pruning, whipper snippering etc. We have 2 lots of overseas visitor in Oct/Nov so want to get it ready.

worrywort - how wonderful for your DH he must've been grinning forever after that event!!

afme - had the nuchal scan yesterday at a dedicated x-ray/ultrasound place and was very impressed. Firstly I didn't have to wait like I did last year ( I pee often when I'm not pregnant....I get tense and terse with the full bladder thing!! hate it), the sonographer was lovely (again not like place last year, who barely said anything - except there was no heartbeat) and we were in there for about 40 minutes.

Part reason for that was bub wasn't playing ball ie lying in the right position for the measurement of the nuchal. It was flipping over, lying on its' side, squirming, but eventually she got a few measurements. She was very thorough and explained everything. We heard the heartbeat 162/min which was lovely (first time) saw 2 halves of the brain, the nasal bone, a very clear hand with thumb and 4 fingers, the stomach, umbilical cord, feet, legs, arms etc. Results are today. We are feeling good about it not too stressy, which has been our natural outlook on the whole pregnancy (not like us normally I might add! :-) ) Will post when I know.

Been having some very strange dreams....but in all of them I am pregnant. Last night though I dreamt that DH told me it was over, and I was sooooo upset and crying and it was horrible. I woke up and told him, he reassured me, then I fell back into a different scene but same dream! Awful. Very vivid.

Anyhoo, gonna go take the dog for a walk then later I am off to see the kids film Despicable Me with my 9 and 10 yr old neighbours. Hope you all have a good day xxx

airline, good to hear your scan went so well and that your experience was much better than last time! I hope the results are just as good!

MaggiePie, I hope you're feeling better today and have snacks on hand... ;)

Hi lovely ladies!

I too got fooled by the change in web address for this forum - kept going to the old bookmark I had! Hopefully all is sorted now.

Renee - sending big hugs to you :hug: I was so sad to hear about your grandfather. Hope the funeral went as well as a funeral can, and that you're doing OK.

MellyBelly - hope you're feeling better sweetie. Pregnancy isn't always sunshine and smiles, is it?! Sometimes you just feel a bit miserable.

Lairdoz - hope that latest cold is going away, you poor chook!

MaggiePie - your weekend away sounded like absolute bliss :D Glad you've booked in next year's one already. What fantastic NT results you got, they are amazing! Especially getting down from 1:300.

Brunette - you poor thing, the carpal tunnel thing sounds downright annoying and painful. I'm with MP, go to the physio if you can, hopefully that will bring you some relief. And don't worry about your NT results - remind yourself that you have only a 0.1-0.2% chance of downs, thats tiny! Plus, you couldn't have the BT, which no doubt would've brought the odds down even further.

Worrywart - yay for DH feeling bub kick!

Airline - hope the MS is doing OK. I threw up only once during mine, and it was around the 12 week mark, from memory. Glad you had a great scan! So pleased you had a nice sonographer too. Had to laugh when I heard about your dream (even though its sooo not funny) - I had a dream 2 nights ago where I walked in on DH with not one but TWO women. Its awful isn't it? I've had a few dreams of DH cheating, read somewhere its quite common, with our changing bodies, changing identity etc.

AFM - all going OK, I feel like I'm blowing up like a balloon though. DH's boss asked me the other day if I'm sure I'm not having twins!? Luckily I stopped myself from decking him... not a good career move for DH! :shakehead: I've scored heaps of maternity clothes lately, I feel better not having to squeeze into my old clothes anymore. I know I should be embracing my changing shape, but after a lifetime of dieting, I have the occassional moment of panic when I hop on the scales these days. The panic passes quickly though when I feel bub kick, like its saying "Oi, cut it out, Mum!" :lol:

PS How funny, I just saw this week's ticker... how ironic!

Hey girls...the results are in and it's good, low risk.
For those who may not have had it yet this is how they worded it and it's quite self explanatory. The first result is 'background risk' based on maternal age alone and then the 'adjusted risk' takes into account the scan and the blood test results.

Trisomy 21 (down syndrome) 1in 297 my result 1 in 1042
Trisomy 18 1in 741 my result 1 in 14 820
Trisomy 13 1in 2320 my result 1 in 46 398

We also got all the films so we can see the 2 halves of the brain, and the nasal bone, and a great profile etc.

Very pleased, and another milestone to quietly celebrate. Off to vacuum, and phone ma & pa and let them know. xxx