Also, ive just noticed in the b/a's that S'rose had her little boy at 32 weeks.
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Also, ive just noticed in the b/a's that S'rose had her little boy at 32 weeks.
Congratulations Brunette!! I hope all three of you are recovering well! :confetti:
Congrats Brunette and welcome to your new little prince and princess. I can't wait to hear what they are called...
BBL, it crazy here at the moment with one sick child.... she has contracted hand, foot and mouth disease......
Congratulations Brunette!! So excited to hear your news - a little boy and girl! Look forward to more updates.
Congratulations to Brunette -can't wait to hear the names!
Renee - I have noticed for a while that BJ*81 and MissAma are above me on the list but I haven't seen them in here for months so not sure if they should still be on the list given we don't know their due dates etc?
No news from here except I ate too much for dinner - not as much room in my stomach as there used to be!!
Hope everyone has had a great day.
xxx
A massive CONGRATULATIONS :happyforyou: to Brunette on the safe arrival of your twins! Such great news that everyone is doing well, look forward to hearing all about it
Lairdoz, i know i have been going to take them off then i think what if they come back on. I just did a search for both of them however and couldn't find any posts or anything from either of them so maybe they aren't on anymore. I will edit the list and add them in the baby section if they happen to post a BA.
Congratulations Brunette! Such exciting news!! AND it means I am third on the list now!
Agggghhhhhhrrrrrrr
huge congrats brunette! enjoy this time with your precious little ones. :) ox
oh glenny c - that's so exciting!!! not long now.
congratulations Brunette!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow! can't believe you've had your little miracles, it seems like yesterday that I joined and began to watch your progress!
Back from Port Douglas, where the sun shone, and we had a lovely time. DH felt the wee man move for the first time, while we chilled by the pool. He's been pretty active since then. We've even seen my tummy move slightly which was cool. Back to Brissy and the rain and work and furbabies and normal life. Back to work tomorrow........... xx
Hi Everyone!
Long time, no posting. Hope all are well.
Airline, PD is great - we went there on our honeymoon, kind of ate too much and had too many ****tails ... ah, the memories. Don't worry, work will fly by and it won't be long before you're finishing up. Glad to hear your DH felt the kicks!
Renee, thanks for keeping up the list and it looks like you and Chrissy are next cabs off the rank. Thinking of you guys. Hey, any name news from Brunette?
Juniper, re work, all I can say is "hear hear". I can't stand work at the moment, and I've never been work-shy and always liked being busy. I think there's a point where the body (and mind) says Enough already. Something more important is going on. Also, I'm having sore hips/bum at night keeping me up, so work is a killer.
Lairdoz, hope your DH's business is going well and that GT went ok.
AFM, I've been pretty busy with classes (Calmbirth - quite good, though nothing to really rave about) and got a pram. AND, I went to U2! It was so amazing. I am a die-hard fan since I was a kid, like 10 years old. So ... I know it's pretty sad, but I loved it. I saw two other pregnant girls there. I know it's not the greatest for bubs, but it's such a one-off and I was just kind of proud of myself for just going and having fun.
Take care all,
WW
Yes renee any news? Im dying to hear baby names!!!
WW, I'm jealous of you going to U2! My sister and I had agreed after the last tour that I'd fly down to Sydney to go to the next tour with her since I had no-one to go with up here. Then they announced this tour and I didn't feel comfortable travelling so far in the last two months, so I decided to bow out. Apparently she got awesome (VIP) tickets too. :( Last time I saw them was 1993 and it was the night after my last day of grade 12. (Damn, now I feel old...) I'm glad to hear you had fun. What pram did you get?
airline, good to hear you had a lovely babymoon!
Afm, with 13 work days to go (once this one finishes), DH wants me to ask for a day off so he can arrange for the electrician to come and install the lights & fans in the patio. He doesn't seem to understand why I have a problem with asking for it (as much as I'm completely over work). Is it just me that thinks I should be maximising attendance? As it is, I've got 2 more OB appts during work hours.
Eek! Just realised we're supposed to discuss our birth plan with the OB at Wednesday's appt. I'd better get something on paper...
Hi ladies
Have just heard from brunette and all three are doing well. Jack Caillan and Zara Belle are still in the special nursery but if all goes well with the paed this wk hopefully they can go home Friday.
What cute names! how exciting and such great news they will hopefully be able to go home on Friday:)
Juniper - great news, only a few more weeks to go and you'll be on holidays ;) Don't stress too much about your birth plan apart from the basics of what you want. I found myself repeating everything at the birth to make sure anyway, but the OB will generally just want to know drugs/ no drugs and intervention choices etc.
WW - fab news about U2 (and the classes, if only to give persective on what you like and don't like I found?). I have to admit I have only been to one concert in my entire life that wasn't a sit down formal thing. Never saw the point of paying all that money to have to stare at someone's back all night, standing up - but I think the big concerts are the exception to this!!
Airline - great news you had such a fab time - well deserved too!!
Hi to everyone :)
AFM - Just got rung up by the OB this morning as my glucose levels were fine (I am a pretty small person with no history of GD last pregnancy so I was very, very low risk). HOwever I have got anemia which I didn't have last time but apparently can happen more often with subsequent pregnancies. I think mainly because no-one looks after you like they do your first pregnancy and I spend all my time feeding everyone but me!
Explains why I have to have a sleep each day at the same time as my DD, just going to get additional iron supplements and hope that does the trick which I am sure it will.
Hey Juniper, I also saw U2 last time in 93! I think I was in year eleven, so not too different. My cousin slept out in the Arts Centre car park to get tickets. I was convinced that Bono would choose me to go up on stage (as the "innocent" girl btw - don't know if you remember, but he would sort of choose some young looking girl and then some other buxom siren on that tour). Anyway, needless to say, I wasn't chosen, much to my confusion. But I was super-close to the stage! This time it was a seated the whole time and just bopping the head scenario. GL with birth plan chat. I hate those chats, because I have ridiculous anxiety about doctors. Ugh. I'm sure you'll keep a level head though.
Great to hear Brunette's names - Zara and Jack. Gorgeous.
Lairdoz, great news about your GT though not so great about anemia. My grandma had anemia with all her pregnancies (all thirteen of them!). And she's pretty robust even now. I also was on Ferrograd C for over a year. Watch your digestion and maybe include more fibre? For me it was the opposite effect, though, but I have odd digestion.
Thanks for the update Renee, such cute names! Hope she can take them home this week.
Jack & Zara - so cute and names that will carry them through, not like names that suit babies and that's it, then they just sound silly when older!
Airline - did DH love feeling the baby for the first time? The problem I had is that baby would stop moving whenever DH would put his hands on my belly so he kept saying that it wasn't a baby in there at all, just beer :shakehead:
WW - good luck with the birth plan chat.
Lairdoz, I was anemic and am now on Ferro F. Finding that I'm no longer needing that catnap during the day. I think he said my level was between 100 and 105 which is not too bad, just a tad lower than it should be.
AFM - I tried to discuss 2 things at my OBs appt last week 1) having DH assist with delivery, 2) cord to be left pulsating for 90 seconds before clamping. Got a NO on both. The first I can understand for insurance reasons, slippery baby and all. The 2nd? well the OB pretty much said he's been doing this for 20 years and indicated his wall of medical journals and then said that he doesn't tell other people how to do their job (as in, little ole' me shouldn't be even suggesting that option 2 is a good idea). he said something about the blood can make it's way back to the placenta which is a bad thing... He then went on to say that if I get to 6-7cm dilated and stall he'd do a c-section!!!!! :o I asked if he could perhaps give me more time to progress on my own (like take a walk around the hospital grounds, do some squatting exercises etc), well I got a NO on that one too. I even tried to say that I can understand the need for c-section if baby is in distress but if baby is not in distress what is the harm... then I got the "I'm the expert" talk again. Also, he mentioned cutting me. I once again asked the silly silly question on whether there is the option to wait and let me stretch naturally -ha! fat chance! "I've spent 14 hours in surgery fixing a ruined vagina because someone wanted to tear naturally, so I am only saying we would put a small cut there for your own benefit" (14 hours my patooty. Soooo I walked out nearly in tears.
My next appt is tomorrow morning. Yay, I can't wait....NOT. If I am lucky enough to have number 2, I will use him as my fertility specialist as I have a couple of embies on ice, but once that is done I will not be using him as my OB.
Crap! Sorry to hear that CK! I can understand why you'd be so upset by the end of that appt. :comfort: The cord issue is the reason I'm nervous about discussing the birth plan with our OB tomorrow. I plan to ask for 3-5 mins, based on what I read on the WHO website. I don't think I should get much objection from the other things I want, so that's the only one I'm worried about. I hope tomorrow's appt goes better for you.
Renee, thanks for the update!
Brunette, I love the names you have chosen! I hope you're all doing well and will be home very soon.
Lairdoz, sorry to hear about the anemia. But good news with the glucose! I hope the iron supplements help you feel better.
Brunette: Such nice names, although I'm pretty baised towards Zara seeing I have a Tara. I hope the SCN stay is short and you will be able to take your bundles home shortly.
CK: Your Ob sounds like an arrogant so and so. No matter how much "experience" he has, you are still entitled to the birth that you want. If I was you I would wait until I was pretty close to delivering before the midwives in your hospital ring him to do the delivery (unless there are complications that he needs to do something sooner). I know we pay these guys lots of money, but not if you don't get the birth you want...
Lairdoz: I got anemia with Tara but it wasn't noticed until my 36 week bloods and I started taking iron supplements but there wasn't enough time for it to kick in before she was born (38 + 3), so I was having daily BT's for 3 days after delivery to make sure I didn't need a blood transfusion and also it delayed my milk coming in until day 5 and then it was gone by 3 weeks. I was on the supplements for 3 months post birth as well. Hopefully they got yours in time so that your body can absorb all it needs before delivery. This time around for me my iron levels have been good but I'm still taking extra iron supplements (along with preg vitamins, calcium & folate) to make sure everything is in good order.
Big belly rubs to everyone else...
I've got my hospital admission appt on Friday, I rang this week to book as I'll be 18-20 weeks during the Xmas, New Year period and wanted to book in a time. So they told me how about this friday... um, I'll only be 16 weeks on Saturday.... but they didn't seem concerned so at least that will be out of the way and if anything unforseen happens at least the hospital will be expecting me. So hossy booking this week, 16 week ultrasound next week (hopefully we will know the sexes) and then Ob appt on the thursday before Xmas. All this on top of having to finish up my Xmas shopping, getting a sick girl better and trying to get some sleep... Unfortunately these guys have already decided to give me hell at night as I can't sleep on either side as I end up squashing one or the other, I told DH I might need to get a reclining armchair for later on as I don't think sleeping laying down is going to be an option.
CK77- Who is your OB? Just wondering because I have a sneaking suspicion we're seeing the same guy. Dr Titiz? I have broached the delayed clamping thing with him and got a pretty negative reaction as well. I haven't broached any of the other things as I don't feel he's receptive. I just keep in mind with the cutting and C-section stuff that no matter what he says, it is my choice (and DH's) and I can refuse anything. I have written in my birth plan that I do not consent to an episiotomy and I will be asking the midwives to delay calling him as long as everything is going fairly well.
CK - I can't believe your OB appointment, what an awful experience! There are ways of telling people things -for example your DH surely could take the baby out once it's past a certain point and place on your tummy for example. That way he's not saying 'No, you idiot I am the expert'- I am not as on top of the clamping side of things,but again even if he wasn't comfortable doing it, he could find a diplomatic way of doing things. Episiotomies are exactly the same - they are sometimes necessary and yes you rely on his expertise, but he could acknowledge your comments and say he will do what he can to avoid it but of course you would need to trust that he would prefer to cut you than have you tear. Sounds like a lovely guy... If our empthay makes you feel any better - you have it from me :)
Kelly - Thanks for your feedback on iron levels - I am always very receptive to drugs and have only taken one iron tablet and had my first day without a midday nap in months! My levels were pretty low apparently which my Mum has told me she was the same with me (I'm the second kid for her) and my sister had very, very low iron levels all pregnancy which didn't respond to iron supplements or infusions. GL for the scan - can't wait to hear (if you are sharing) the sex of your twins - how exciting!!!
Juniper - one less day at work to go....
WW - Thanks for your feedback too - it's obviously very common in pregnancy being low in iron. Was worried about constipation as I couldn't eat any more fibre or drink anymore water if I tried!!
AFM - Feeling much better today and didn't have a nana nap at lunch so iron supplements have already kicked in! Much bigger this time than I was with my DD and already needing a heave-ho to 'roll' over in bed and I have at least (I hope) 11+ weeks to go....
Chrissy, that appointment sounds like hell. I can sort of relate, though my own experience doesn't sound quite as bad, but when I raised the fact that I'd been to an "Active Birth" class (this was a month or two ago- very eager beavers) I got a lot of defensiveness from my OB. Which was to be expected because of this antipathy between independent midwives and OBs. I also got a couple of comments that rang in my ears for days (and made steam come out of them), eg "Labour's hard work you know?" Um, yes, I don't think it's up to a MAN to tell me that, you know? Anyway, as everyone else has said, your consent is the final decider. And I know there's lots in favour of delayed clamping, but there's also a fair bit in favour of the synt and the immediate clamp. Also, stress-wise, I don't know, I think it can help to sort of "give in" in a manner of speaking and trust people. Anyway, things will turn out how they do, and I'm sure your OB is going to look after you, and you'll be taking care of the real work and will always be the ultimate expert on your own experience.
Okay, I really have gone into a rant on that one!
Hi to everyone else!
Hi all,
I'm finally back in this thread - and hopefully for good this time!! I had my BT yesterday (18dpo) and my figures were 1404 for HCG and 911.4 for progesterone - so well and truely pregnant!!
I will catch up on all the posts soon, but just wanted to say HI!!
Mum 2 Be- Congrats!!! Best wishes for a H & H pregnancy!!!
M2B: Welcome and hope you have a h & h 9 months. Wow your numbers are HUGE, did you have 1 or 2 transferred??? My numbers at 16dpo was HCG 351 and Progesterone 95 and we are having 2 bundles, hence my question as your numbers are off the charts.....
KellyD ~ We had 2 transferred!! I have another BT next tuesday and then a scan on 22 December, but yes, I think the numbers are really high too!!
Ooooohhhh, more twins??????? Exciting!!
M2B, welcome back honey congratulations that is great news!!!! All the best for a happy and healthy nine months!!
Congratz M2B, WOW to those numbers! Mine were 107 at 16DPO, sooooooo WOW!
Glenny, I've PM'd you re my OBs name ;-)
I just don't know where I stand in terms of being able to put my foot down and say NO to an Episiotomy or even a c-section? Is it really my choice or does the OB have the final say (because of legalities)? (again, I understand if baby is in distress). Thanks ladies for the suggestion of having a word with the midwives about only calling him up when I'm pretty much good to go, I think when the time EVENTUALLY comes I'll run with that and see if we have success.
Juniper, I'll have to jump onto the WHO website and have a look at their recommendations. Good luck with your appt today.
M2B - welcome back :leap: FX for a H&H 9 months. Were you hoping for twins or just hoping that one of them would be sticky?
WW - I'm guessing that your Active Birth class was about pain management techniques in the lead up to the actual pushing? I'm hoping that all of that labour time is without the OB anywhere in the vicinity, so even though your OB was a bit defensive maybe they wont actually be there when you're employing most of those skills?
KellyD - I hope your DD is on the mend from hand, foot and mouth disease, poor thing :sick: You sound like you need a holiday away from it all at the moment, such a busy lead up to Christmas.
Lairdoz, that's excellent news that the iron supplement has kicked in so quickly! Good that it was picked up with plenty of time to go.
AFM, had my weekly appt this morning and I have group B strep, so will be getting antibiotics during my labour to prevent that being passed to the baby. It was funny actually, my OB delivered the news "you have GBS" with a big smile???? Even DH after the appt said it was like he was congratulating us, strange!
So today, I will be spending time in front of the telly, as I've pulled both groin muscles kicking the soccer ball to my dog (it's been my 1hr of exercise each day), and I'm having trouble getting around because of it. See, just goes to show that exercise is BAD!!
Take care of those bumps ladies!!
Chrissy xx.
Congrats M2B - that is FABULOUS news just in time for Christmas!!!
If it makes any difference, my stats on HCG at 18 dpo was 1800 (16 dpo they were 529) and there is only one in there, so there I am proof that there is no real way to tell if it's twins until the ultrasound. I was (as was my FS) fairly sure it must have been twins as my levels (as occurred with my DD two years ago when I also had crazy high HCG levels) continued to be WAAAYYYYY above anything I could find for singles, let alone twins!
I hope you are enjoying this magical time as you deserve and welcome!! :)
CK - I agree that exercise (or rather I should say Sport) is bad - all those injuries! Hope you are feeling better soon.
xxx
Chrissy, i have strep B also and have had since 28 weeks. Doc said that nearly 30% of all pregnant women have it. Rest up that sounds painful. I have real bad lower back pain today so i don't know whether i want to sit, stand, laydown GRRRRR!!!! I think it is bub moving down as i have a big space at the top of my belly now especially when i stand up.
Wow Renee! sounds like you are progressing along nicely :-) They say back ache is one of the signs...... I think my baby has moved down only slightly, but I certainly don't think I've 'dropped' as such. I just did a bit of quick research on GBS and apparently it's best to get the IV Antibiotics at the onset of labour (or at a minimum 4 hours before deliverying bub). So does that mean I should head to the hospital earlier than I ordinarily would have? Did you have any info on it?
CK77- I couldn't PM back as your box is full but thought I'd post my reply here- I've found that as well but have to say I've spoken to him about cord clamping and episiotomies and he's never been so arrogant with me. He has actually said that noone will do anything I don't want them to do. I think maybe he just has no social skills at all- prob comes from his training etc in Egypt- the whole doctor knows best thing. I think maybe he comes across worse than he actually is sometimes. I'm usually only in there for 4 mins or so as well but I find that if I have questions- he will answer them. I figure if he's been doing this for 20 years he's probably seen things go quite badly and that's likely to make him more eager to intervene. I'm just trying to focus on finally having that baby we've wanted for so long and let go of my idea of a "perfect" birth.
Renee- Exciting! I have "dropped" as well. my tummy is a LOT lower than it was before and I have a lot of back pain now. Also stabbing pains on my cervix like little OJ is trying to test the exits!
M2B, congratulations!!! :confetti: I'm so thrilled to see you back here! Now, you are absolutely NOT permitted to leave again (well, maybe in 8 months time)!
Lairdoz, yes, 1 less day... Not that I'm counting... Much... I'm glad to hear the iron is helping already. :)
WW, I mentioned to my OB that I was reading the Birth Skills book and she was actually quite supportive of it.
CK, I can't remember if the paper had an actual recommendation or if it was more of a discussion paper. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll send you the link (although I thought someone posted the link to this thread previously which was how I found it). I need to do a lot more reading on the subject, but don't have the time at the moment. I just thought the 3min delay the paper discussed was a bit of a compromise between the group that advocates waiting until it stops pulsating (up to 45mins) and the group that advocates immediate clamping. I also see it as another part of the birth that is dependent on how things go (eg if there's a lot of bleeding then immediate clamping may simply be necessary). Oh, and I agree that exercise is bad!
Wow, it sounds like we've got a few bubs racing towards the finish line! Exciting times ahead!!
Afm, we didn't end up seeing the OB today since she was at the hospital delivering. And we don't see her next time either because she's on holidays. The MW did a scan and the good news is that bub has turned! Her head is down near my right hip, so she's almost in the right position. BP was down (lowest it has been all pg) and I'm ignoring the MW's scales because my scales at home say my weight is still stable. But I will be good and cut out the sugar (except for some Christmas indulgence) just to be safe... I'd been a bit less strict recently and I really should be more careful.
Chrissy i'm not too sure, no one has mentioned that to me. Just that i will have the antibiotics during labour. I have a doc app tomoz so i will be sure to ask. It is hard to be able to time 4 hrs before giving birth however. What if you have a real fast labour, it wouldn't matter what time you were at the hospital! Will let you know if i find out anything.
glenny, yes it is getting exciting. Can't wait for this little monkey to join us. Stabbing pains hurt hey! Bub enjoys moving its arms and hands while its down there which makes it even more uncomfortable, but funny at the same time!!
Hey all,
Thanks for all the lovely welcoming messages!! It's amazing reading all the blogs - it looks like everyone is almost at the end of their pregnancy!! All of which I have to look forward to!!
Its great to see that all the pregnancies are progressing well and are dropping when they should be!!
AFM - I'm just tired - all day!! I guess that is normal though!!
M2B, with those hormone levels, I'm not surprised you're tired! I'm still so excited about your BFP! I can't wait for your scan! :hug:
Chrissy, i asked the doc about the antibiotics and she said there is no timeline. It would be ideal for it to be in your system when bub is born but sometimes things can happen so fast you don't get it till late. She said it is so common these days that many women don't get the antibiotics in labour cause there is such a low chance of bub getting it. I personally wouldn't be happy with that cause there is still a chance. Hope that helps a bit.
AFM just had doc app and bub is posterior, which isn't ideal, hence the lower back pain! She seems to think i may go early but not to take that as a def!!