Pregnancy after Miscarriage or Loss November 2009

Hi eliselouise :hello: so great to see you and I too didn't realise that you didn't know where this thread was when I suggested you post in here :doh: I am sorry to hear that you are also worrying and I hope the 2nd tri would hurry up for us all so we can relax a little!

I have a question about a doppler, my 1st scan is next Wed but I will only be 6 weeks 6 days, can a heartbeat be heard that early with a doppler? I don't expect him to see much if he does a scan because it's at the OB's office not with a sonographer. The OB had originally said to come in at 8 weeks but he will be away so it was either a week earlier or a week later so I thought the sooner the better and I will than get another scan at 9 weeks with a sonographer... But will it jut be a waste of time going that early?

AFM I think those little acupuncture needles in my ear are really working! Whenever I am feeling sick I rub them and it goes away! amazing... Now I just hope they can stop me from vomiting cause I know it's still early days. I'm also excited that I've booked into do pilates at a physios office 2 x a week, they have small classes of 3 and I've asked to be in a class with other woman who are pregnant :)

eliselouise :) Welcome (hugs), don't worry you are not the only one freaking out! The 1st trimester sucks!

Greens, wow you are close! Could be a couple of weeks yet, tho ;) I hope not.

Feeling pretty ill here today, which is good.... Slept a little better last night, I think I am feeling a little better about the pregnancy, just don't want to get too comfy, yk?

xx
Tanya

Wliselouise share away hun it helps :hug:

Smallfryplus I know I know funny what a month and a few sore spots makes a huge difference.

Cherished hmmm I wonder if acupunctue would work on my belly pain?

Tanya me tooo. Enjoy good sleep it doesn't last!

Well I'm not coping today. Thank goodness for weekly ob appointments. I did NOTHING today and I'm still so sore. My ob said that if I rested it would stop LIER!!!!!!!! I can't even get in the car without wincing so Mum is driving me to ob to meet dh tomorrow and I hate being so helpless.

I've been googling my symptoms but nothing, which isn't makeing me feel any less anxious about it. It's not like Braxton hix more like I'm bruised from the inside. I wonder if Squeak is to blame?

Hopefully I fall asleep alittle earlier tonight 2am sleep 1 hour intervals and then wide awake at 8am! I still think I'll get more sleep when bubs is out. :pray: come soon little one.

Morning greenslw it would be worth a try, see an chinese herbal medicine person who also does acupuncture to compliment the herbs rather than just an acupuncturist... That is if it wont be too much running around to see someone.... Although you haven't had much relief resting I'm sure your dr's orders are for the best and you should stay at home and put your feet up :hug: try not to stress yourself out, your buba will be here soon :dance:

Cherished - I had my 1st scan at 6w6d and no you can't hear the hb. But generally you can see it on u/s at around that time. Usually it can be seen externally (E's was) but you may sometimes have to have an internal scan to see it. You will only see a little bean, but the hb is quite clear. HTH and good luck! :D

Greenslw - Wow you are so close now! I know how you feel about those last weeks too, I could hardly drag my sorry butt up off the lounge LOL But all the very best to you hun, hope all goes well and things start to happen soon :hug:

:hug: to all the ladies in the 1st tri - hang in there! And welcome to all the new ladies. I know I should leave here LOL but I can't resist poking my head in from time to time ;)

Thanks for the pep talk cherrised :hug: I need it.

Well I did some visualisation last night. I also stayed up till 4.30 so I was so exhausted when I fell into bed I must have relaxed. My belly is about 1/2 as saw today as yesterday! so either the relaxing or the visualisation really really helped. I'm still going to talk to the ob about my fear but if it's 1/2 bad I can put up with it.

Hay megs mum can't beleve your bubba is 5 months already. Time flies really fast.

Hey Gals, thought I would crash this thread and say Hi! So good to see all you girls UTD and moving along nicely. Ct wait to see more birth Announcements soon.
Z-star congrats hun!

Cherished - I had my first scan at 6w6d and I SAW and HEARD the heartbeat and Ella was 1.4cm that day. I think it depends on the machine. My obstetrician had a pretty good ultrasound machine but some are not that great.

AFM - Still hasn't sunk in fully that I'm a mummy and Ella is almst 4 months old. I am absolutely loving it, even though shes not the easiest baby as had very bad reflux and is in a lot of pain from that alot of the time. When you girls finally hold your precious bundles you willknow that the pain and heartache we have all gone through to get to that point is all worth it 1000 times over!

Belly hugs and Rubs to all xox

Hi girls, just a quick post to ask if anyone has had anything similar. Every evening for the past 3 days ive had cramping in the same spot (left hand side, lower abdo) the last 2 days it was at the same time and tonight a couple of hours later. It only lasts for about 30 mins at the most but just think its quite odd. I havent had any bleeding but am just wondering if anyone else has had anything similar?? Have tried to get an appt to see my doc but shes on holidays so just have to wait it till the 27th when i have my first scan.

Eliselouise - maybe it's the site of implantation and it's burrowing in further and is causing hurts. I had that too.

Greenslw - glad the visualisation (or exhaustion) worked for you! Maybe I should try that. I made the mistake of spending a couple of weeks sleeping in an almost upright position and have caused quite a deal of damage to my lower back as a result. Unfortunately, last night, I sleep flat again (on my side of course) and have the worst night sleep since sleeping upright! no more than 2 hours in a block. I was getting up to 5 hours at a time when I was sitting.

Hey, has anyone (greenslw in particular) been having dreams about having already had the baby or about actually having it? Nearly every single night I'm having those dreams. Last night was particularly amusing, my sis (who is really grossed out by pregnancy - long and very funny story) was going to be with me through the whole labour (HA!!) and wasn't grossed out by it. But what was even more weird, was that my tummy was kind of shrink wrapped around the baby so you could see every outline and crease of the baby but not it's actual body if that makes sense. Like vacuum packing but packed in a stomach. Initially she was engaged and I was getting ready to start pushing then I felt a really sharp pain and when I looked down the baby had moved and was then breech. At that point she was looking at me and doing what babies do when they kind of poke their tongues out cos they're hungry. It was the weirdest thing because I could see all the outlines but I couldn't see the actual baby as such. I think I must have had braxton hicks at the time and that was prompting the dream.
Otherwise I'm going well. Though lots of tummy stretching pains and the odd braxton hicks games.

Erybery time flies! Ella is already nearly 4 months :) cool. And Megsmum getting closer and closer to 6 months old... glad to hear you're both enjoying it so much.

Cherished, tinar, twinsis, and I'm working off memory here so I can't remember even the half of you all!! Stay happy, stay safe :)

Congrats Eliselouise! Those twinges your feeling could be anything,but my guess would be that they are a result of bubs growing :)
Great to see you in here!

elise - Yay! I'm glad to finally see you in here. I was wondering when you would pop by. As for the cramps, I've been getting those too in the exact same spot. They are usually on the left but occasionally on the right. I've been chalking them up to stretching pains and gas pains.

Smallfryplus - I'm only 13 weeks and I've already had several dreams I've already had the baby. They are weird because in my dream I know I am only 13 weeks and yet the baby is fully developed and fine. I'm hoping that's a good sign for me.

erybery & megsmum - glad your babies are happy and well.

Greenslw - ouch poor you, hope the pain lets up soon and/or baby decides to make an appearance. i remember being really sore my last month of PG with DS. I sympathize.

cherished - are the needles in your ear those tiny metal balls they put in? I should maybe talk to my natural-path, I'm 13 weeks and on meds and still feeling sick. Glad they are helping you.

Tashy - ha ha a window in our abdomens sure would be great sometimes.


Ugh the worst symptom for me right now is right under my ribs the muscles are really sore and really tired feeling. I can literally feel them stretching and it's super uncomfortable. I don't remember these from last pregnancy, I guess they are much weaker this time around.

ervbery so lovely to hear from you my friend :hug: thanks for the feedback on the early scan, I've been anxious that I will get there and he will be like "what are you doing here so early!" I have no idea how good his equipment is??? Guess I will see in 5 more sleeps heheh :D Hope little Ella settles down soon, thanks for the beautiful words, I know it will all be worth it when I get to hold my baby :loveshower:

megsmum I really hope i can see it one way or another, or at least see 'something' on the scan... and don't leave, I love hearing from you xoxoxo

Greenslw how are you doing hon, visulaising will be a great h elp, glad it relaxed you

Smallfry what a crazy dream! I havn't had any baby dreams yet but I did last time I was pg

eliselouise if you really want an earlier scan you can go to another doctor and ask for a referal I am sur ethey will give it to you and you can take the film with you into your regular doctor when you do get into see them. I'm with sunny and think those twinges could be anything :D

AFM I'm great and still totally excited :hooray: I've booked into do pilates starting next week so hopefully that will stop my back being sore. I've been tired and naseous and HAPPY! and can't wait for my scan next Wed... only 5 more sleeps

erybery wow 4 months OMG that went so fast. so glad you hear you are doing well and so is Ella :hug: :D

smallfry I've tried sleeping upright but it didn't work. I've had a couple of dreams but baby is always in white so no gender clues. It was general stuff like feeding and bathing. Nice though Baby Was happy and healthy.

Twin Sister, My OB said the only thing you can do for muscle pain is panadol and a tight bandage.

Cherished :hug: yaya for 5 more sleeps.

ATM Saw the OB yesterday and she said it was muscle pain so after poking and being rough with me she suggested pandol and the midwife who I love suggested I use my support band I've been using for my hips on my belly. and guess what it worked and I slept. still up every hour to pee but I SLEPT and now feel great. I'm even am going to drive today.

I'm going to be an aunty again two. #3. :leap:

Hello? is anyone there?

ATM just waiting, starting to get real nervous so I'm in project mode big time! no more painting to do, the nursary is done, all things clean and washed so now I'm making some A B C etc flash cards for Squeak. Thought it might be a nice thing to do and keep my mind off scary pain that's coming.

Yesterday and Today when I walked for any length of time BH that made me stop in my tracks and a load of goo in my undies. It's getting really close :o I'm starting to sound like a baby.

Greenslw - everything sounds like it's nearly time. How exciting! I hope it all goes well for you.

cherished - enjoy the pilates. I've just started and didn't realise just how hard it is! It looks like you're doing nothing, but I actually worked up a sweat this morning. I've also signed up for bellydancing starting this week. That should be fun

Twinsister - I hope the MS clears up soon.

I hope everyone else is well.

AFM - I'm concentrating on staying positive. I bought some baby clothes at the Target sale on Saturday - I didn't buy anything in the last pg. Then DH & I started researching prams yesterday. I had a midwife appt on Saturday which went well. I then went to my GP this morning & got my last blood test results. I was so stressed about the numbers that my blood pressure, which had been 120/65 with the midwife Saturday, had gone up to 145/80 this morning. It really brought home to me how damaging stress can be. So I've decided not to get anymore progesterone/HCG blood tests. I'm still taking the pessaries. I've booked the NT scan for 15 Feb, so we'll see how things are then. Meanwhile, I want to stay positive and give bub a stressfree mummy. It doesn't mean I might not freak out from time to time, but I'm really going to try to stop it early and learn to relax.

Cheers

Greenslw hon I must have missed your post the other day, so happy the band helped with your stomach pain! what a relief to get some shut eye... and OMG you are getting so close!!!!!!!! :o

tashy I'm not that excited about pilates tonight I kinda feel like crap so I hope it is worth it! Glad you have chosen not to stress, it will be well worth it and you're right your buba will appreciate it

AFM as I mentioned above I feel like crap, I'm gassy :redface: have a stomach ache, a slight head ache and this morning was in tears at my blood test because the needle hurt, the lady was not nice and I hadn't had breakfast because one of them I had to fast for 8 hours so I was hungry, and sick to boot :crying: normally I don't mind blood tests but I guess the hormones etc just got to me... Only 2 more sleeps until our scan!

greenslw - yay!! Sounds like you're unplugging!! woohoo not long now! How exciting :) It's scary but it will all be worth it on the other side!

tash - it's good to see that you're making a decision to be less stressed. And baby clothes shopping is so much fun! Are you guys going to find out what colour baby you're having? Find a happy place to retreat to in your head when you feel stressed and tense. sending loads of baby dust and sticky vibes your way.

I got told off by my ob this morning hehe she suggested that at this point I'd want to have my baby bag already packed and ready for the hospital and that I'd probably want to have my bag done too. I laughed and said I hadn't even finished sorting out the nursery yet. She strongly suggested that I get my butt into gear and do it all!! lol I have obeyed docs orders and spent a couple hours in there this afternoon, baby bag is almost packed and all the clothes are sorted. Tomorrow I go and pick up a couple of last minute things I need still and then I can finalise the furniture arrangements in there and it'll all be done. Yay!

Twinsis - how's the pain going? Has it eased up at all?

cherished - how's ms? Everything well for you?

Sunny, eliselouise - hope you're both well too

Hello to any other wonderful mums to be that I've missed... must shower children now!

HI ladies,

can I have a really self-indulgent post, even if I haven't been around much?

Here goes:
I know I should be bursting with happiness and excitement right now, as we have wanted this for so long but I am honestly just really frightened I am going to lose this one too. I can't relax and enjoy the knowledge that I'm pg, because I am just *waiting* for the m/c. I can't stop checking the toilet paper for blood. And I'm having lots of crampy sensations that only make me think "this is it". Yesterday I didn't actually feel nauseaus, which only made me think for the entire day that I was losing my pregnancy symptoms.

And part of me is quite angry that instead of holding a beautiful baby right now, that I am having to go through it all from the beginning again.

Last time DH and I were so excited that we really started "planning", like perusing names, buying a few little things, etc. Nothing major, because we still hadn't told anyone, but just enjoying our little secret and the anticipation. This time, I just don't feel excited, and can't even begin to plan. A friend gave me some things (co-incidnetly just after we found out) as she was wanting to get rid of them, and I made DH put them in our loft, I didn't want them around us, didn't want to even look at them, as it was tempting fate.

Sorry for such a negative post, but it's really how I feel.

milly hon, that's totally normal to feel that way after having m/c in the past. There will be a point in your mind that you'll get to where you feel safe to get excited and that is a different point for everyone but, as I've shared only a couple of weeks ago, you don't completely lose the fear, you're able to bring in excitement but I think that there is always going to be fear until the baby is out and in your arms. If it helps, the cramps you're feeling are most likely due to uterus stretching and everything else settling in to look after your baby. I know that won't make any fear go away but still... Nausea, that can come and go so early before settilng in with serious discomfort.

Take care, try to find something that distracts you from the stress so that you can give your mind a rest. Wishing you some peace of mind to help you through xox

cherished - I missed your post earlier, it all sounds very promising for a very sticky little baby there :) I had headaches constantly for quite a bit of time during 1st & 2nd tri. Don't overdo it, have fun!

Hello Wonderful Women!

Wish I could say I lurk on a regular basis but unfortunately I have just emerged from the self-inflicted cyber purgatory of having to catch up 2 months plus of the PAML thread while inflicting endless guilt on myself on a weekly basis for not being able to keep up better – let me be the poster girl for the cyber impaired communicator:wall:

So much fantastic news to congratulate people on :dance:–

Mollycat – lovely to hear your Matilda is with you now – a name with a lot of character

HannahD – what an amazing labour – the fast and furious ones just take your breath away don’t they! Welcome to Amelia Grace! I hope you have great joy in your journey together

Zstar – when they want to come they just come – fantastic to hear Billy is doing so well – you just have to marvel at how ferociously emotional such a little baggage can make you

Babymiracles and WTH – sorry to hear that you have both been battling with silent reflux with your little ones – Sabriyya (DD) had that and a very unpredictable gut and it was not fun – I remember the fretful feeds and lack of sleep vividly now – which is funny (sadly) as at the time it was more an uncomfortable blur – I hope both your bubs respond well and come to move on from the condition quickly

Erybery and Chappas – seen you doing the odd lurk – hasn’t time passed so quickly? – hope your first Christmas with bubs was a hoot!

Welcome to all of the amazing, brave women I missed the privilege of travelling with on this incredible road – Indi1, Tina R, Twin Sis, Tanya, Rachie, josh’smum, Kellym, milly 5, Sunny09, cantwaittobeamum, Cherished1, tashybabe and eliselouise85 – it is so hard sometimes in the earlier days having faith and just being in the moment – and the more we try and comfort ourselves with information – sometimes the less innocent and accepting it can make us. When I look back at my posts and blogs in the first trimester last year – they are full of me reliving the previous miscarriage and the fear that its shadow cast over my new pregnancy – I felt (and still do feel a bit guilty now) guilty that my thoughts couldn’t be exclusively with my growing baby and them alone – but it was a part of my grieving and the letting go – and until you go through each sad ‘milestone’ of the previous m/c/s and get beyond it – it seems that that is when many people feel their faith renew and relax into the experience as genuine and of its own integrity. My heart goes out to people who have experienced late losses as this is a real challenge of strength and I hope if this is the case for anyone here they have the love and support of many positive people in their lives.

Appreciate the progesterone issues – I could fall pregnant but a shortened luteal phase (care of low prog) made it difficult for me to stay pregnant – I had to work hard to extend that luteal phase raise the levels to a good strength to keep my last pg – good luck to all here working with this – it is so worth the effort!

Greenslw – wish you had a cooler run for the last trimester – it is seriously not fun – I remember the few times I visited rellies in Adelaide it could be brutal in summer and freezing in winter (esp. in the Barossa) – must be those fierce Southern winds – hope your time off work allows you to get done what you need to do nesting wise – I always get caught out one room short of being organised! I don’t go back to teaching part-time until next January but we will be seriously povo in the meantime – my last bub so I just can’t think of missing out… Squeak is going to have such a great mum in you!

Smallfryplus – I really enjoyed hearing your jellysprog is an active little girl – I sympathise with the sore feet – I had really sensitive feet this last pregnancy and unfortunately it has continued with the bf-ing keeping the softening hormones in the building – not fun when I jump up on the tiles in the morning but it passes as the day goes on – Hope something gives you relief or it disappears on jellysprog’s arrival!

Josh’smum – I am sorry to hear that your mum has been diagnosed – my partner’s mum has been in treatment for breast cancer for two years now and is on her last two treatments before check-ups and hormone therapy – I hope that the prognosis is good and she responds well

Tashybabe – good luck with your homebirthing plans – it is always a challenging choice as it is interesting how other people receive the news. I hope you have a wonderful relationship with your midwife. My DD (now 4) and DS (4 months) were born at home with two different but equally talented and compassionate midwives and I had beautiful births (full on but just such an initiation into womanhood) which I will always treasure and which my daughter was lucky enough to experience and be a part of (she gives great backrubs and is a great water runner). I hope your experience is a rich and fulfilling one.

Jenushka – hope everything is going well for you and your family!

Meg's mum - I loved hearing how you are going - you were always so positive and such a great support!

Oh and Cherished1 – I don’t think you’re a hippy – I did a sage smudge after my m/c in 2008 and before I fell pg in Jan 2009 to try and free the house and myself and that process did help me feel that my new pg was essentially an independent, fresh event deserving of its own happiness – even though I had those dark moments from time to time.

AFM – Joss is now 4 months old and attempting to dive bomb off anything raised and spends most of his days cracking himself up (and us for that matter) – he looks like a little old man when you put hats on him and we have discovered he looks good with a velvet butterfly sitting on his bum (sorry – mum’s been doing some ‘creative’ photography – but he is a good-natured model) – Sabriyya is running around the kitchen tweeting at 9 o’clock at night because a yellow honeyeater has flown into the kitchen from the patio – otherwise she is looking forward to Kindy next week one minute and is clinging for dear life in the next trying to be a big girl but still wanting to be our baby. My DP did the mowing this arvo with Sabriyya on his shoulders and Joss in a sling on his front – do I need to say more… And somehow I actually feel much saner this time – although how much of my brain has disappeared with two placentas is a concern – recently four of us (all mums – taught on Palm Island and travelled o/s together – haven’t been together in 7 years) sat around having dinner a few weeks ago and not one of us could think of the word for those candle thingies that go on walls (Target later taught me it was a ‘sconce’) – so it is all good :lol:

I promise to lurk more often – I’m waiting for the rest of our thread crew who went through together to have their little ones and then I promise I will stop bombarding these epics…

Happy and healthy pregnancies to everyone here and huge family hugs to everyone who has that blurry, sleepless laden joy and bewilderment that makes our children so incredible to us!

Much love
Karen van

I'm not sure how long I will be here (hopefully 9 months!) but I will stick my head in and introduce myself anyway.

I have been lurking for a couple of days, ever since I started getting nausea and tired last week and I realised that we were UTD again. AF is due today, but so far has not shown herself. The 11 (yes 11!) positive pregnancy tests done over the last few days is probably why! My DH keeps wondering why I am doing test after test when we already know the results, but I need to keep seeing that line getting darker.

I have had 3 miscarriages and have 3 healthy children. The last miscarriage was a blighted ovum back in September and due to other things, we had to wait until now to TTC. Well it has happened again (getting pregnant is the easy and fun part) and I am SCARED TO DEATH!!!!!

Mily, you could be in my head with your last post. Every time I go to the toilet I expect to see blood. I look at the paper in every light just in case it is just a smudge. I just know that it is going to be there. With the last miscarriage, we got to 9 weeks before we found out that there was no baby. There was a sack and a placenta, but no baby. As there was a placenta my HCG results kept going up and I had all of the symptoms. I thought at 9 weeks I was home and hosed.

The first miscarriage was a missed miscarriage at 6 weeks which wasn't picked up until 11 weeks, and the second was a scan revealing at 6 1/2 weeks that the baby's heartbeat was slowing and then stopped. Testing of the material revealed chromosomal abnormalities with this one, so although I was upset, I knew it was just mother nature taking its course.

This time however, I am a mess. I am crying all the time. I am yelling at the kids. Every twinge or pain is the end. I really wanted to just switch off for another 8 weeks and deal with it at the 12 week mark. If the baby was there and still alive then I would acknowledge it. But with the MS and tiredness, it is hard to forget. And just because I have symptoms doesn't mean that it is all OK. I had wicked MS with the last one right up until the D&C.

I guess I am just relieved to know that I am not a head case for having all of these feelings and that there are others out there going through this.

Hopefully I will be here for the long haul, but the voice in my head says to not get excited.

:stickyvibesgirl: to all of us who are going through this.

Kirsten

karen van - good to hear from you :) And with two little ones I'm incredibly impressed with the thoroughness of your post!! I swear you've managed to cover more than I can ever even remember when i'm posting! lol Great to know that everything is going so well and I love the image of your DH mowing the lawn with two hitchhikers!

kirsten - welcome and congratulations! I :pray: your baby keeps growing stronger and stronger and that you can stay in here for the full 9 months. It's very good that you have some answers for what has gone wrong in the past and even better that you know that you can create beautiful happy healthy babies as you've done so three times already. Let this one be the next sticky one for you :stickyvibesgirl:

AFM the foot is mostly good now, I think the podiatrist was right when he said I had caused damage from too much walking, combined with an ankle roll just before Christmas. Seems the swelling in the joints has gone down and for the most part it's all good now.

:stickyvibesgirl::bellygrowing::stickyvibesboy:

Just a quick one girls as I'm at work and dont' want to get busted!

Karen van what an amazing post :hug: and thankyou for being so inspiring

Smallfry get your bags packet love <insert smack on the bum icon here> hehehhe :lol:

Greenlw any action??

kirsten "welcome" & sweet Milly you will get through the 1st tri and than start enjoying without the stress and worry, take comfort in your dh and try to enjoy the pregnancy (as much as you can anyway)

AFM I'm hormonal in a lovey dovey way and feeling sooooo inlove with dh :inlove:

cherished - does it count that I packed baby's bag yesterday? :rofl: I'm getting there... slowly I guess I keep thinking that I'll be able to do it when I go into labour and will just put a list together now of the things I need. Things don't move all that quick for me. But still... it is evil to leave it so late isn't it?!

tashybabe wow busy time for you. bp is high too, do you have a relaxtion plan? Do you paint? Shop? Cook? Garden? time for a plan I think. Sending you some calm vibes, but I know the first 12ish weeks are the hardest.

Cherished :hug: blood tests are awful, I had this look of joy on my face after my last one. I HATE THEM. Goodluck for tomorrow's scan. PG hormones are loads of fun aren't they ;)

Smallfryplus :lol: your ob sounds like a concerned ob, I don't think mine would even ask. It is nice when nursary is done.

Milly :hug: indulgent post away any time.

Karen Van well done on the mega post :clap: can't belive it's 4 months since joss arrived. Nice to hear you are feeling saner. Can't wait for that

Kirsten welcome and I :pray: you are here for a long time. Thank you for sharing your ups and downs the pg journey can be so bruital.

ATM keeping my mind busy and trying very hard to take it easy. I still managed to fuss on the pc for hours and do a load of washing.

I just got stuck on the phone to TELSTA! there are down sides to being home aren't there! :rolleyes: No more picking up the phone!

greenslw - oooooh 5 days to go!! I dunno about you but I'm getting pretty excited about hearing your BA!!! Woohoo!!

(just had to get that out of my system... I've just sat and indulged myself with almost half a tub of connoisseur cookies and cream ice cream... have been wanting that for 6 months now and resisting it! Sugar rush now!)

Smallfry :leap: enjoy the icecream, it really helps heart burn too, so it's almost like medicine! ;)
I can't wait either :pray: soon,

Mmmmm.. icecream! Everything give me indegestion atm!! Can't wit for the next few weeks to be over!! Cummon 2nd tri!! Had a bad day yesterday, was in bed at 7:30!! Feeling ok today. Had all my hair cut off this morning... so much lighter!!

Green, your baby is almost ready to meet you! How exciting!!

hehehe last night I consumed an outrageous amount of food! Equivalent to about what I have normally eaten over two or three days and just in one sitting!! (admittedly the sitting lasted several hours and involved several trips back to the kitchen to find more food!!)

greenslw - I have an awesome ob. She likes to make sure all bases are covered. It's funny that she goes into such detail sometimes because I found out she doesn't take first timers (not sure why!) yet she goes into that amount of detail. It's great, everything is explained. She's great...

cherished - how're you going today? U/S yes?

kirsten - how many tests are you up to now? ;) I only did one this time, when it showed BFP I didn't want to do any more just in case they didn't show BFP! lol funny how our minds work differently. Are you feeling any better today? It's a long road and I pray it will be a good one for you :hug:

tanya - indigestion sucks. Does ginger tea or ginger/b6 tablets help? And 7:30 in bed!!? I WISH! I Can barely get the kids to bed by then let alone me. Not sure I could sleep that long anyway, seems whenever I lay down I'm awake 5 minutes later to pee. It drives me batty. And if I spend too long in bed, I end up with really sore hips so I figure late nights are the way to go, then I'll be tired already when the baby is born and accustomed to hardly any sleep! hahaha

Milly - how are you hon? Everything going ok? thinking of you :hug:

sunny, twinsis, tashybabe, eliselouise, I hope you are well, sending :bellyrubs: to you all and keep those wonderful :bellygrowing:

have I missed anyone? Oh boy, I hope not but I'm sure I have! Now where's Dory? And tinar? hope you're well xox

Tanya :D for hair cut, I did the same but a month later it grew back to the same length, gota love hormones. 2nd trimester was great for me. If pg was like my 2nd trimester I'd have 10 babies. Maybe it's good it's not.

Smallfry :D love the rolling feast. Did you have company? I feel like lots of food all at the same time but when I get to the kitchen I loose my enthusiasm and end up with crackers or a glass of milk. Effort minimal, but if I had a personal chef :D

Very exciting news from DH..... His boss has come to the party with his hours come April :D so he'll be able to work longer 4 days a week and have Thursday off to be a daddy. I'm so so so happy. I decided that I can handle 2 days in child care but no more and now I don't have to. :dance: It is so nice to see work places being flexable with men and women, although my boss said "no" to a day at home, but for a good reason I guess being the boss it's important to be at work. blah blah blah. I'll still have some "mummy days" I reccon.

greenslw, that's great news about DH and time off. I did the work longer thing for a day off for a while until they finally allowed me to go part time. It was tough but well worth it. As for your boss not letting you have a day at home, that kinda sucks. It seems quite unfair! I mean, bosses can have a day at home. There's no reason why not. It's a matter of trusting the team. Would they allow one day a fortnight?
My rolling feast was mostly on my own. I had dinner with the kids in the evening (DH was playing golf) then went to the supermarket for supplies while he ate (kids were in bed) and when I got home, started in on icecream, apple crumble, pineapple and rockmelon! It were so good :) :) :)

tanya - how short is short? how long was it before? I just had mine cut a week or two back, it's finally all one length again now. A nearly shoulder length bob. Totally lacking in requiring any time other than brushing it in the morning now! Perfect for a new mummy :)

SFP, it's short... like no way am I going ot get a pony tail from a looooon time!! :) It was down about to my underarms.... so a big chop :)

Awesome, Green! Good to hear daddy will have some extra time with bubby too :)

Feeling very yuck atm! DP has gone to sydney so he won't be back until tomorrow night. I have a SANDS meeting tomorrow night... not sure if I can go now :(

Hi ladies,

Thanks for your replies. Not that it's nice for any of us, but it's so good to know I am not alone. Thank-you.

Small-fry - thanks :hug: and I'm glad your foot is getting better! Oh, and icecream is an ESSENTIAL! ;)

Karen van - thank you for your post.

kristen - hugs. You too sound like me - I thought my last angel was a sticker too. My boobs swelled so much I even had a blocked milk duct, and MS to boot. Although I had some bleeding, I experienced no cramping at all and I even had a scan the day before, saw the heartbeat and got the a-OK. I am just hoping that "third time lucky" rings true for us.

Cherished - thanks hon, and I'm jeallous that your hormones are "lovey dovey" mine are teary and emotional! Oh, and the MS has kicked in with a vengence!!

Hi Tanya & Tashybabe and anyone else I've missed!

OK, so I may have done a few (4 OK) more tests and the line is getting darker thank goodness.

The only disturbing thing is this dull ache I have in my abdomen. It isn't really painful, more uncomfortable. You'd think after 6 pregnancies that nothing would be new, but I must say, this has never happened before. I am VERY concerned and keep expecting to find blood when I go to the toilet, but as of yet, none. I was going to try and hold off going to the Doctor for as long as possible, telling myself that if something was going to go wrong, there was plenty of time for it to happen before I actually acknowledged the existence of this baby. I think I am telling myself that it will just be a period if/ when it happens, but after I go to the doctor I know that any bleeding will be a miscarriage. So off to doc tomorrow to see about the discomfort and a referral to my ob.
I am 4 weeks 1 day. Would anything show up on a scan yet? Not necessarily wanting to see a HB, but knowing something was actually growing in there would be a relief (had a blighted ovum last time and go to 9 weeks before anyone realised there was a sac, placenta, and symptoms but no baby!)
Hope everyone else is hangin in there. Last pregnancy the ms was so bad I went and got a prescritpion for some maxolon to get me through. Only took it a couple of times before we mc'ed but it seemed to do the trick if you're really desperate.

See ya
Kirsten

Evening all hope everyone is doing well.
Sorry i dont get on very often with personals but just a bit too busy at the moment.
Kirsten i know exactly what you mean about the dull ache in the abdomen, ive had the same thing since about 3 weeks. Feels kinda like period pain and i keep thinking theres going to be bleeding when i go to the loo too. But ive got to 9 1/2 weeks and had a scan last week and everything is fine, good size healthy heartbeat so im assuming its just quite normal. As for seeing anything on a scan i think you would be a ble to see the sac and the foetus in it but no heartbeat visible until about 6w5d i think. Good luck at the docs tomoro, will be thinking of you
Tanya everything is giving me indigestion at the moment too, never had it before and now its just terrible. Hope you start to feel better soon, not long now till were in the 2nd trimester WOO HOO
Smallfry the feast sounds very yummy. Ive found im hungry all the time but i start to eat and then im full after not much at all, very frustrating.
Greenslaw not long now, how exciting. Thats great about DH being able to have more daddy time, hopefully you can sort something out with your work to so you can get more mummy time also.
Cherished YAY to being all lovey dovey, i wish i could be i just dont want to be touched at the moment, im so grumpy and tired and its really annoying i feel sorry for DP having to put up with it. Hopefully it will change in the 2nd trimester and ill be feeling lovey dovey too :)
Karen van good to hear that everything is going well with your little one, and WOW what a huge post, where do you find the time :D
Milly hope your feeling a little better today it is extremely hard to enjoy being pg after what we have been through but we just have to try and stay as positive as possible and hope for the best. Have you had any scans yet or seen the hb? I had my first scan last week and since then i am feeling a lot better and a lot more positive. Hope you can start to enjoy it soon too :)

Hi girls, We are just back from our celebration dinner which was lovely :)

Smallfry scan went great, HB was 133 and bubs measured 7 weeks, everything looked great so we are so happy :) the OB even printed a little pic for us :D

Tanya I say come on the 2nd tri too (for all of us) it will be here before you know it, so hang in there.

Greenslw that is wonderful news about your dh :dance: I keep thinking I will log and and read that you are off the hospital to give birth!

Milly my hormones are also emotional and teary but they come from feelings of love lol

Kristen hope everything is ok tomorrow hon

eliselouise so nice to hear from you I've been wondering how you are going, chin up I'm sure your DP understands that hormones are at play not you

goodness me...I have to stop reading posts every day without replying - there is so much to catch up on.

Cherished - I still get a kick out of seeing your name in here...same way I feel bout any of my ttc friends

Elise - my DH was lucky to touch me in the first trimester lol...then again, he was nervous as well in case nookie would hurt bub lol. Second trimester has been better but its rare that I initiate anything more than sleep!

Kirsten - They are your stretching pains :) get used to them! They are here to stay till your bubba joins you for cuddles. Unfortunately I reckon they get worse...I'm at my parents and mum keeps asking if I'm ok, apparently I'm grimacing lol. From my knowledge and experience your to early to see anything but a sac and maybe the start of the foetal pole, I've had HB from 5wk3 days but that was with an internal scan - You'll be fine :grouphug:

Milly - I know what its like, so hard sometimes to stay positive and - annoyingly - so many early preg symptoms match AF (like the pains!) but just try to take a breath and enjoy this bub

Tanya - my hair is 3/4 way down my back - i don't think I could bear to cut it

Greens - that is great news bout your DH and work! My DH is his own boss which means - if he doesn't go to work we have no money :(

Smallfry - I miss being able to eat! I just don't seem to have the room anymore...sob

Hello to all the other ladies as i am sure I have missed some of you.

AFM: I am just exhausted which is why I rarely post. Whoever said you have so much more energy in the 2nd tri LIED!!! well, ok, I do have more than the 1st tri but by 3pm at work I am starting to struggle.
My job is being adverstised for the time I am away and I have to apply! I am in qld gov and am only a temporary employee - if I apply and get it they appoint me permanently and someone else temporarily (so confusing sometimes!)
25wks - where has the time gone.
A little over a week ago I had nothing more than a few outfits I'd been given - then a shopping monster overtook me and I now have bassinet, pram, clothes, nappies, bottles, breast pump, nappy pails, change table/bath, bibs and some other stuff! IT WAS SO MUCH FUN :dance:

:bellyrubs: to all you yummy mummies!

When I was pregnant with the 3 that stuck, I had wicked heart burn. Even a glass of water was enough to set it off sometimes!

So to all of you soon to be mums who are struggling with heartburn, here is my secret. Zantac. Extra strength. Lasts 24 hours. My ob recommended it and said it was fine to take at any time of the pregnancy. You can get it in the supermarket and it is fantastic. I tried the Rennies etc, but they didn't even get close to fixing it. Check with your Ob though as they never seem to be able to agree on anything sometimes!

I am soooooo tired ATM though. Every afternoon about 1:30 or so I just want to find a nice quiet corner and curl up and go to sleep. With a 6, 4 and almost 2 year old, this NEVER happens. I did fall asleep on the couch watching Dr Phil the other day though. Felt a bit better when I woke up but it's not like I can sack out every day!

Thanks for the reassurance guys. I have everything crossed (which is making it hard to walk):rofl: It is nice to know that you guys understand what I am going through. My mum had 5 pregnancies with 5 healthy children and neither my sister or SIL have had a mc, so I don't really have anyone I can talk to about these things. They just say it'll be OK to forget about it for the next few months. HAH! IF only!

OK, going to go to bed now. Thanks for listening to my rant!

Kirsten

tanya - oooh short short :) I keep doing that and then growing it out... couple of times have shaved it off for charity from about armpit length. I am fortunate to have very fast growing hair as I get bored with it frequently. Hope you're able to get to your meeting tonight and that you're feeling a little better today (not too much better though because that would just be stressful).

kirsten - so 15 now? That's an excellent number and it's really encouraging that they're continuing to get darker!
I found the same thing with losing mine, I didn't mention the first time to my family when it happened, only DH as it was before we were married and we weren't planning, I had murena (IUD) in and it failed - fell out and I didnt' realise. By the time I realised, I didn't realise it was too late, went on the pill and somehow that triggered a m/c. The bleeding and pain wasn't like anything I knew before so I did a test and it was faint but positive so I knew it was a m/c. Second time we were trying and we told everyone when I got a BFP at 5 weeks. It was easter weekend and we were visiting DH parents and my Dad interstate so thought we'd tell them all in person... two days later I woke up and was miscarrying. It was awful. People around me didn't want to talk about it and didn't want to really aknowledge it had happened. It was kind of, well, so early it doesn't count or it must have been a normal period and not a bfp... yeah... right! That's when I discovered bellybelly and joined up. I've found it amazing to be surrounded by such a supportive group of women who all understand where I'm coming from and provide words of comfort at just the right time in just the right way. It's been an incredible experience.
This time around, I somehow knew from the beginning that it was going to stick. I don't know why. I still had quite a bit of fear but something felt right that, retrospectively, hadn't felt right when I m/c at easter. Really hard to put my finger on it and realistically, it could just have been that easter was a baby boy and this is a girl and my two term pregs were girls so it just felt 'normal' to me!
I'm rambling again now and totally off topic... sorry!

tinar - great to hear from you :) and I'm really pleased things are going so well and that you've done a monster shop for baby! It is so much fun isn't it?!! I love nothing more than wandering into a shop intent on picking up baby stuff!
How incredibly weird having to apply for your own job! My sis in law works for QLD government. I hope you get the job!
Eat little and often. Or do the sustagen thing like I had to for ages. It's only in the last week (literally) that I've found myself wanting actual food instead of just drinks.

cherished - I've been the same through this pg until recently. Hormonal in a cuddly affectionate way. Problem is that DH is incredibly paranoid about BDing so it's been a struggle! lol
Fantastic scan results too :)

eliselouise - glad your scan has helped you to feel more comfortable. The moody will come and go. A girlfriend and I were chatting the other day and concluded that if we were our partners, we'd kick us out cos we're such moody cows!! lol

childers have just woken... better go tend to them :)

Have wonderful day everyone and special hello's to those I've missed this time! xox

I posted this on the blighted ovum thread a few days ago but am yet to get any response and am impatient so I thought I would post on this thread that seems more active


I had a chemical pregnancy (self diagnosed could have been a 5 week m/c) in July of last year and got pregnant again straight away.

We were really excited and even had a scan at about eight weeks when the dr told me it was all fine (although he could not see a heartbeat!)

In October at about 11 weeks we drove to the nearest big hospital for our scan (about 3hours away) only to be told the sac was empty - it was a blighted ovum:crying:.

I had a d and c straight away and was told to wait a couple of cycles before trying again.

It took about a week longer than normal for my period to come back and then my cycle had changed but I have just found out I am preggers again after only really trying for one month! :leap:

I am almost afraid to get excited until I see a heartbeat and am trying to keep a lid on all my plans until I know this bean is sticky!!

I know it is hard for people who haven't been there to understand but I still get annoyed when any of the few people who know the details fail to recognise that the BO was a fully fledged preg there was just no baby!

It has given me great hope to read everyone's success stories and find such a supportive online environment so thanks heaps for posting!