chelleg - just a theoretical because I am not sure if you could answer... but do you think there would be so much litigation if an Ob said to a woman something like... 'You have a breech baby / VBAC / etc... These are the risks, this is what could happen (pros & cons) and what would you like to do? I will best support you with the elements you choose...' unless they of course think it is dangerous in which situation they would make their case clear. Do you think that would work better rather than the Ob decide, given the Ob has offered unbiased, factual information? If we can inform women and point them to where / how they can inform themselves, do you think we would have less intervention and women unhappy with the way their births went? I just think women need better access to information to become better informed.