Yes, I've yelled at my DD, but nothing quite like what I heard coming from that room. I'm sure if I yelled that loud, that I would be feeling like my head was about to explode. I have nothing wrong with a teacher having a stern word, but it was far from being that.
Another mum who was there was laughing at the start, she thought the teacher was role playing or something. I think we were all sitting there with the same stunned look on our faces lol.
I also just wanted to add: Stern words - I think thats fine. Some kids just need to pull their heads in and be put into their place and for some of those kids, normal talking just doesnt cut it.
Sorry but I disagree. No break necessary. Paris has had 3 teachers, and none of them have yelled. In fact our principal doesn't approve of raising ones voice at a child. And as such there are particular guidelines for behaviour and discipline in place. And I have friends who are teachers (one also teaches children the same age as her own daughter, if something would make you yell surely that would LOL) who also say it is completely unnecessary. If they are resorting to yelling then they must not have good policies in place for the teachers to deal with trouble students. And as for getting children's attention all the teachers paris has have their own inventive way that is positive to get a child's attention.
Paris and I have an understanding if a teacher ever ever yells at her she is to tell me straight away. I will not tolerate it. I was verbally abused by a teacher when I was at school, for literally no reason at all and it did scar me for the rest of the time at that school. She was a bully, she bullied the good kids and she bullied the kids who were more talkative, excitable etc. Its not on.
I would talk to the teacher first, and ask if everything is ok, even go as far as to offer other ways to deal with children. Yelling is only ever a response to your own frustration (unless someone is far far away and you are projecting your voice LOL) and that is not a good habit for a teacher to get into.
ETA: I agree a stern voice, or an assertive voice is fine. Children do need to know that the teacher is to be respected and listened to. Screaming like a banshee however is not ok.
It depends what your definition of yelling is and what you are saying. It is different to verbally abusing someone.
You dont know what those kids have done and what has led the teacher to do what she has done and relying on what your child has told you is not always the best thing. Take for instance when you ask them about what they did at school for the day...do you think they tell you every detail on how or why they did something? How are they to recall the exat details and background to a situation thatr isnt even directly involving them?
As Nic said she has only heard it once and the source of her other info is not really a reliable one. \
If she were a good teacher, I am sure that she would have used it as a last resort. I know that I have plenty of other methods that I use to get a point across or to stop a certain behaviour in a positive way before having to resort to yelling at someone.
I kind of agree with Bon. Perhaps she has been copping a bit from these kids and needed to give them a serve.
I think though it could be her undoing though because if these kids are a bit cunning they could be doing it on purpose to stir her up.
I have no problem with yelling.
Uncontrolable screeching on a regular basis, I would have concerns.
The kids are ol dnough to know how to behave, and old enough to deal with punnishment. I was yelled at at school, in a class environment, many many times, and there was always a reason for it. It got our attention and I still remember it, so it has a long term impact.
There is huge difference in my mind between abuse and yelling. Obviously had I been the victim of such abuse, maybe there wouldnt be such a huge difference, I dont know?
I think give her the benefit of the doubt. If you are concerned maybe mention that you overheard the exchange and hope that the yelling isnt a regular part of the class. Maybe that will remind her to be more aware of her levels.
As for the rumors of how she feels teaching the class, dont buy in. and dont allow you views of her to be coloured by idle gossip. The woman is a teacher and human being and deserves to be respected by the parents as well as her students.
Thought I would come back an update. I heard the teacher having a word with the whole class last week. She was really good with them, she was assertive, no yelling or harse words at all.
Then yesterday she was yelling at a student for forgetting to take her homework home and said (read: yelled) to this girl that it was her fault for not taking the homework home,(the girl lost the sheet in the classroom) that she would still have to do it all that night and return it the following day like everyone else was suppose to, and that she didn't feel sorry for her at all and to stop crying!
Then she went on a rant about how if she forgot her work for the class for the day, how she wouldn't be allowed to say 'oh oops, I forgot', how she has to remember to bring her stuff to class, so why shouldn't this particular girl remember to take her homework home? She actually said it wasn't fair that she has to remember to bring in class work and that this student thought she didn't have to remember..
I don't know...I don't like the way she is speaking (or should that be screaming?) to them, and for the record, my DD isn't even getting into trouble, the teacher practically fell over herself the other day to tell me that DD is doing really well in class and she has no problems with her at all!
I do understand and agree that the teacher should be respected by her students, (and yes, parents as well) but just because they are 8-9-10 years old, doesn't mean they don't deserve some respect from her either. Maybe that is just me though? I believe respect goes both ways, you don't automatically 'earn it' just because you are older than someone else.
DH and I had another chat about it this arvo, and he suggested I approach her and ask if everything is ok? I don't think I could do it, not yet anyway... Told him I am thinking of waiting until we have our parent teacher interview this term, and then report cards next term. Then I can re-evaluate what is going on in the classroom. I just don't want to leave it till it is at the point where DD is sick of going to school and hearing the teacher yell at single students or the class in general. I don't want her to come out of this year hating the idea of school and it being a horrible place to go...
We had some really difficult kids at school, but we never had a teacher yell like that.
Raised voices yes, occasionally, but never directed at one child. To the whole class & no more than a few times through the whole of school.
I did see a sub teacher slap a student in the face lightly in year 8. No excuse for that one, but I totally understand why she did it. The student had been really disrespectful through the whole class, then when we were leaving she asked the girl to go to the principle. As she walked past the girl got in her face & called her a s**t.
Although we all knew it wasn't right, not one of us said anything.
I am with you, that the teacher seems to be going too far. There are plenty of things they can do. There is no need for screaming like that.
Send them out, to the principle, detention, lines, in a corner, pickup 10 papers.
What happened to all those punishments we got at school? Do they still do them?
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