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  1. #1
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    What's the benefit of homework?

    Balance is the key. You should see your child's teacher if you are concerned about the maths. Regardless of what your child is saying. The best thing is to ask. There might be something the teacher is missing. There also may be something you are missing. Talking with the teacher will always help the situation.
    Esp. In year 6.

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    Eta - there are dozens of studies reporting the benefits of homework, just as there are dozens which refute its benefits.
    Sorry, I should have added that I haven't researched it at all myself!! That was only something I read from somewhere else, which I wasn't sure if it was true or not, hence the question marks.
    Though I did just google what Alfie Kohn had to say on it, and maybe it has stuck in my head from one of his books that I read because the article I just found said:

    1. The negative effects of homework are well known. They include children’s frustration and exhaustion, lack of time for other activities, and possible loss of interest in learning. Many parents lament the impact of homework on their relationship with their children; they may also resent having to play the role of enforcer and worry that they will be criticized either for not being involved enough with the homework or for becoming too involved.
    2. The positive effects of homework are largely mythical. In preparation for a book on the topic, I’ve spent a lot of time sifting through the research. The results are nothing short of stunning. For starters, there is absolutely no evidence of any academic benefit from assigning homework in elementary or middle school. For younger students, in fact, there isn’t even a correlation between whether children do homework (or how much they do) and any meaningful measure of achievement. At the high school level, the correlation is weak and tends to disappear when more sophisticated statistical measures are applied. Meanwhile, no study has ever substantiated the belief that homework builds character or teaches good study habits.
    But yeah, you can always find research to support any view. In the case of the OP I think it's clearly not working though.

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    Jun 2010
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    Actually, it doesn't stop at high school or university. DP and I are always doing "homework" for our jobs.

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    Jan 2006
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    I can see the point of going off to figure stuff out by yourself, or finishing off essential tasks. Homework like that would be good, if appropriate (and for older kids). Although, little kids could have homework of coming up with something to talk about at news the next day, or something like that
    Pointless extra work without supervision or correction is another matter.

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    Anybody can find research to support what they believe. The only proper research is peer reviewed research which isn't always open to the general public for access.

    I think kids should have homework, but it should be building on what they have learnt in school. I like what TFB said about it.

    I have friends and relatives that are teachers and honestly they can tell when the child hasn't done any additional work outside of school.

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    I disagree on the positive effects being mythical.

    In the run-up to an examination, doing past papers as homework away from the class, researching the answers, bringing the paper to class to discuss - so, so useful. Using selected past paper questions after a class revision session shows how much has gone in during the lesson and what else needs to be covered. And it can mean 1-2 grades difference. Trust me - I see the children who do the homework get the grades.

    DS has homework and he's 6. He has spellings to learn and books to read. He likes reading books with me. He learns a lot from it. We see the bonus in reading together as he tackles harder and harder books. The one-to-one doesn't happen as much in the school room. Yes, sometimes he's tired and "can't" do it: I read the book to him. It's about enjoyment at his age. He still learns from being read to.

    And learning spellings? Weesh. Tell me that isn't needed, go on, I dare you. We're on the internet. It would take me five seconds to disprove anyone who disagreed with me.

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    I disagree on the positive effects being mythical.

    In the run-up to an examination, doing past papers as homework away from the class, researching the answers, bringing the paper to class to discuss - so, so useful. Using selected past paper questions after a class revision session shows how much has gone in during the lesson and what else needs to be covered. And it can mean 1-2 grades difference. Trust me - I see the children who do the homework get the grades.

    DS has homework and he's 6. He has spellings to learn and books to read. He likes reading books with me. He learns a lot from it. We see the bonus in reading together as he tackles harder and harder books. The one-to-one doesn't happen as much in the school room. Yes, sometimes he's tired and "can't" do it: I read the book to him. It's about enjoyment at his age. He still learns from being read to.

    And learning spellings? Weesh. Tell me that isn't needed, go on, I dare you. We're on the internet. It would take me five seconds to disprove anyone who disagreed with me.
    Cannot agree with you more!

    There is a HUGE difference between the kids who regularly do their homework and those who do not. If you think that there are no benefits to it then you obviously have spent no time in a classroom. The kids who do do it are more likely to be engaged in their work in the classroom and perform better academically than those who do not. Homework reinforces and supports what is learnt at school and it's value is immeasurable. Especially for reading and spelling.

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    There is a HUGE difference between the kids who regularly do their homework and those who do not...The kids who do do it are more likely to be engaged in their work in the classroom and perform better academically than those who do not.
    But couldn't it be the other way around? Kids that are more engaged and more academically minded are more likely to do homework? These are just my thoughts and only from my experience. I was a kid that always did her homework, and got reasonably good grades, but the reason was because I was a goody and too afraid of getting in trouble, LOL.

    I agree with TFB that homework for older kids like practice exams etc is beneficial. You can't really get through your exams without studying outside of school. I disagree with it for the little kids though. A child's 'work' is play. The OP was about an older child anyway though so I'm getting off track now.

  9. #9
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    Cannot agree with you more!

    There is a HUGE difference between the kids who regularly do their homework and those who do not. If you think that there are no benefits to it then you obviously have spent no time in a classroom. The kids who do do it are more likely to be engaged in their work in the classroom and perform better academically than those who do not. Homework reinforces and supports what is learnt at school and it's value is immeasurable. Especially for reading and spelling.
    I am not doubting that homework has it's benefits - but I can't see what they are in this case in point. The child is doing it because she knows she has to, no one is checking that she is doing it right, in fact she is continually learning the incorrect answers day after day. I get that teachers don't have oodles of time on their hands, but if no one does check it, then I still am left wondering what is the benefit of it. Try as I might to help her understand how to work out the math, she just didn't understand it, poor kid, and I sort of have this (perhaps misguided) hope that someone might notice and get her some extra support.

    Perhaps the real issue is lack of parental involvement? But not every family does have the time to contribute to supporting homework, for whatever reason, right or wrong.

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    Perhaps the real issue is lack of parental involvement? But not every family does have the time to contribute to supporting homework, for whatever reason, right or wrong.
    Disagree. DH and I both work, DH full-time (sometimes overseas for up to 2 weeks at a time, usually about one week a month) and me four days a week (plus some evenings and I bring work home). I leave the house before DS wakes up some mornings, when I pick him up it is time for making dinner, eating then bedtime. Liebling can do some homework while I cook (my day off, Liebling cooks with me). We chat about school over the dinner table. We read school books at bedtime. He will read to me, I tend to pick stories he will need to know by senior school to read to him. So classical tales, from myths and legends to Treasure Island and Wizard of Oz (he just picked this from the library) to Roald Dahl. Stories that everybody "knows" by the time they are adults, but often haven't read and get wrong. And Greek Myths because if he doesn't get a Prep education but does go to private seniors he will seriously be on a back foot.

    It doesn't take much to sit down in the holidays/Saturday mornings and do a bit of maths or French (again, trying to get him a proper education in the state sector). DH and I are fairly time-poor when it comes to family life, but it is NOT hard to spend a few minutes talking about school and homework. Every family can do this.

    I set a half-hour homework a week for children age 9-13 at the moment; this is their Science work (they have other subjects on other nights). Parents have complained about reading homeworks set by the previous teacher, they want their child to write something down so they can talk about what they're doing, they want their child to actively do homework. Seems you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

  11. #11
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    I actually quite like homework. I think that the benefits far outweigh any objections. Children can learn to work on their own. Apply the tools that they learnt today and refresh them in their head. It also gives them life skills (developing independence and taking responsibility for example).

    FWIW DS1 never "got" math. He was always in the "dumb" class (his words, not mine). Until we met a teacher in year 9 who realised that he wasn't dumb but rather quite intelligent. He's doing a double-degree at uni (Engineering and Science) not bad for the "dumb" kid huh?! I helped out where I could and if neither of us knew an answer we googled it - how did my parents get through our schooling years without google?? I encouraged him to ask his teacher if he didn't know an answer. Most teachers (if not all) were quite happy with an unanswered question or two, provided that they could see that he had attempted it and, asked for their help in completing it.

    Sorry....I'm rambling.... and all over the shop today!

    DS1 was telling me the other week that his lecturer at Uni said that the optimal time to re-read notes etc from a class/lecture for retention of knowledge is 5 days later. I'm not sure if this is transferable to young little minds though.

    I think it's important that they are given homework from a young age to give them the tools to cope with it as it increases and the expectations become higher.

    Sopdet, what you say too about I have friends and relatives that are teachers and honestly they can tell when the child hasn't done any additional work outside of school. It is obvious and I see this with DH's children. DS1 has often helped DSD over the phone with her homework and, when they were living with us, she was doing a lot better. Sadly, homework/schoolwork is not highly regarded in her home and the results at the end of the year are rather telling. DSS and I struggled a lot last year while he was doing a course at CIT. He kept telling me that the homework/assignments were bull**** and that there wasn't any point. I argued that there was - no homework, no assignment, no results, no certificate, no job! I dragged him kicking and screaming, resisting at every opportunity, through that course.

    TFB - awesome comments

  12. #12
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    Disagree. DH and I both work, DH full-time
    TFB I was trying to write a diplomatic post as I am not a parent and to say I think parents should make time for homework when I've not been there would be judgemental. I can't put myself in the shoes of the parent and say what they should or shouldn't be doing as I just don't know what their homelife involves.
    ETA the family has 3 school aged and 4 non school aged children.

  13. #13
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    Balance is the key. You should see your child's teacher if you are concerned about the maths. Regardless of what your child is saying. The best thing is to ask. There might be something the teacher is missing. There also may be something you are missing. Talking with the teacher will always help the situation.
    Esp. In year 6.
    It's not my child, it's a child from work.

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    I haven't done, or read any studies, but I see the benifits, as much as it drives me up the wall when DD1 doesn't understand & won't accept my explanation, then has to ask her teacher anyway

    DD1 is spelling a good year & a half above her year level. The benefits of reading every afternoon IMO. The rest of her schooling is at the level it should be, but with maths I think she'd be a bit behind if she didn't have some to do at home as well. At home they have more time to try to figure out & understand the questions. They can ask a thousand times without feeling silly.

    There is also the responsibility & time management. Its their responsibility to get it done on time. DD2 still needs to be reminded, but DD1 knows & does it herself. She also has a diary & out of 5 days will choose the 4 days to do set tasks on, then has a days break. She put what she's doing on what days in there every week.

    DD2 will get there. It'll be a bit more work for her, but one day she'll get there She also needs alot of extra help that they try their hardest with in the class room, but she still needs alot of help at home too.

    DS has his sounds & started readers at the end of last year (4yo kindy). In the younger years I really don't see anything wrong with that little head start. Reading is the base to every aspect of learning, including maths. The best thing you can do for your child is get them involved in books & reading as early as possible.

    Ausgirl - I think in the case you're talking about you're right. Its a lack of parental involvement. DD now usually goes off to her room to do her homework, but will ask if she needs help. If I can't help her I tell her to ask her teacher before school & she'll get that one on one help there. But DD is self motivated too. She wants to learn it & get it right. There's no way she'd put in an answer she knew was wrong. I've always been here to help though. She knows that.
    Last edited by ~clover~; March 13th, 2013 at 12:20 AM.