Long Term TTC, Infertility & IVF - August 2005

Here we are in the EIGHTH month of this year - believe it or not! Hoping for a record number of BFPs this month ladies! [-o<

If you would like to leave your details here for others to view easily and you don't have to repeat yourselves please leave us a msg :)

Name -
State -
My Previous Cycle Length -
Cycle Type -
FF Link -
Months of TTC -
Medications -
Important Dates -

Current from 06/08/05

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Name - Ann
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 38 - 28
Cycle Type - Natural
Months of TTC - 41
Medications - Nil
Important Dates -
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Name - Anney
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 26 - 25
Cycle Type - Natural
Months of TTC - 27
Medications - chinese herbs
Important Dates -
Reasons for Infertilty: aged 43
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Name - Baby~amore`(Trish)
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 26 - 26 - 26 - 24 - 26 - 22
Cycle Type - FET August with Pregnyl for Luteal phase support
Months of TTC - 10 with #2, 12 years with#1
Medications - Elavit, Calcium
Important Dates - 5th August BT
Reasons for Infertilty: R salpingectomy 29/6/05, unknown subfertility
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Name - Baby Bliss (Kelly)
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 34 - 45
Cycle type - in between treatment
Months of TTC - 13 for son, 20 and counting for #2
Medications - 1500 metformin
Important Dates - 8th August prelim appt MACC
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Name - Babydreams (Shazz)
State - Qld
My Previous Cycle Length - 38 - 32 - 34 - 31 - 34
Cycle Type - Full Stim IVF Cycle
Months of TTC - 19
Medications - Folic Acid, Syranel, Gonal F
Important Dates - 10th Aug possible EPU, possible BFP to follow
Reason for Infertility - Dh Vasectomy, PCOS ( for me )
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Name - BBTrail (Ali)
State - Vic
My Previous Cycle Length - 25 - 29
Cycle Type - Down Reg
Months TTC - Too many
Medication - Syranel, Gonal F 225ui
Important Dates - :luck:
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Name - Bee
State - Vic
My Previous Cycle Length – Non existent
Cycle Type - Art Thaw Cycle
Months of TTC - 29
Medications - Progynova x3, Pessaries x2
Important Dates -
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Name - Blue
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 37 - 21 - 38 - 30
Cycle type - HRT FET
Months of TTC - Many
Medications -Progynova
Important Dates - 11th August Scan
Reason for Infertility - PCOS, DH abnormal morphology
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Name - Cailin
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 35
Cycle type -
Months of TTC - Since June 2005 with 3 months off in between
Medications -
Important Dates - BFP
Reason for Infertility - PCOS
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Name - Caroline (Cazzoom)
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 31 - 54 - 31 - 32
Cycle type - Stim phasew
FF Link - http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1cc75
Months of TTC - 106
Medications - Syranel and Puregon
Important Dates -
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Name - Firemansgirl (Leisa)
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 29 - 35
Cycle Type - Natural
Months of TTC -
Medications - Elevit and Folic acid (500mcg daily)
Important Dates - 12th August cystoscopy bladder
Reason for Infertility -
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Name - Humphrey
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 27 - 29 - 28 - 28
Cycle Type - Natural FET
FF Link - http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3e133
Months of TTC - 36 for #1, 11 for #2
Medications - none
Important Dates - FET around 5th Sept
Reason for Infertility - endo, DH has high count of abnormal sperm
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Name - Janee
State - WA
My Previous Cycle Length - 25
Cycle Type - Natural
FF Link -
Months of TTC - 14
Medications - none, started taking Vitex
Important Dates -
Reason for Infertility -
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Name - JoJa
State - VIC
My Previous Cycle Length - 28
Cycle type -
Months of TTC - 54 for Jack, 8 for number 2
Medications -
Important Dates - BFP TWINS
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Name - KeenAs
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 30 - 39 - 17 - 29 - 30 - 27 - 24 - 28 - 29
Cycle Type - IVF ICSI Blast
Months of TTC - 49
Medications - Cronine & Elevit
Important Dates - 12th August BT :luck:
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Name - Lynny
State - WA
My Previous Cycle Length - 37
Cycle Type - Natural
FF Link - http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5d7c6
Months of TTC - 3
Medications - None at the moment
Important Dates -
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Name - Melbo (Melissa)
State - Victoria
My Previous Cycle Length - 29 - 26 - 27 - 25 - 28 - 28
Cycle Type - Down reg (long protocol)
Months of TTC - Since 2002
Medications - Synarel, Puregon, Blackmores Conception, Pg and BF formula
Important Dates - BFP
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Name - Ness4
State - QLD
My Previous Cycle Length - 28
Cycle Type - IVF
Months of TTC - Since Nov 2003
Medications -
Important Dates - September sometime
Reason for Infertility - Pituitory, Thyroid & Adrenal glands do not work
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Name - NZGirl (Amy)
State - NZ
My Previous Cycle Length - 39
Cycle Type -
Months of TTC - Since July 2003
Medications -
Important Dates - BFP
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Name - Special Child (Nola)
State - Victoria
My Previous Cycle Length - 32
Cycle Type - Natural at the moment, looking at IVF
Months of TTC - 33
Medications - Folic acid
Important Dates -
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Name - Shell_l_d
State - NSW
My Previous Cycle Length - 27 - 24 - 27 - 28 - 24 - 30 - 28 - 26 - 27 - 28 - 28 - 27 - 23 - 27
Cycle Type - Clomid & AIH (IUI)
FF Link - http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90983
Months of TTC - 25
Medications - Clomid 50mcg CD4-8, herbs, zinc, folate, Blackmores Pg/bfding
Important Dates - BFP:
Reason for Infertility - cin2 surgery scarring/narrowing, endo, anovulation
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Name -Sheree
State - WA
My Previous Cycle Length -31 - 32
Cycle Type - Next Flare PGD Cycle
Months of TTC - 14 IVF attempts, have done clomid, AIH etc too!
Medications - 600ui Gonal F!
Important Dates -
Reason for Infertility - Severe endo, ACA+ve, PCOS
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Name - Shezabelle
State - QLD
My Previous Cycle Length - 28 - 29 - 42 - 29 - 56 - 36 - 62 (m/c)
Cycle Type - hopefully FSH injections + AIH
Months of TTC - 16 (6 natural 4 clomid cycles over 7 months, 2 AI over 3 months)
Medications - Folic Acid til AI then probably Puregon
Important Dates - 8th August BT
Reason for Infertility - PCOS
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Name - Sushee
State - WA
My Previous Cycle Length - 30 - 29 - 39
Cycle Type - Down Reg Blast IVF
Months of TTC - Since July 2001, 7 failed IVF/FETs
Medications - Lucrin 15ui at the mo, Puregon 200ui ince AF starts
Important Dates - 7th August BT :luck:
Reason for Infertility - Blocked tubes, no chance of falling pg naturally
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Name - *TAM* Tammie
State - WA
My Previous Cycle Length - 35 - 28 - 38
Cycle Type - month off before HRT FET
Months of TTC - 27 months
Medications - None
Important Dates - Awaiting AF
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ROLE CALL FOR IVF/IUI CYCLES:

August OPU/transfer/AIH/FET

Baby~Amore`
Babydreams
Blue
Cazz



July OPU/transfer/AIH/FET

Bbtrail :pinkstick: :bluestick: :crossfingers:
Keenas :pinkstick: :bluestick: :crossfingers:
Sushee :pinkstick: :bluestick: :crossfingers:

Hey girls, don't know if it's still the Pregnyl in my system, but I'm starting to feel a bit more hopeful now. I shouldn't have been testing before 10DPO, but did, with 2 FUE's.

8DPO FUE HPT, very very very faint grey line
appeared somewhere between 6mins & 1hr after.
It became darker over time & is now easily visible.

9DPO FUE HPT, very very faint grey line
appeared between 5 & 6mins after.
It became darker over time & is now very easily visible.

10DPO CC (CrystalClear) HPT, very faint pinkish line after 5-10mins &
has been getting darker over time, is clearly visible after 20mins.

So each has become slightly darker over time, hubby says I'm reading too much into it, but if it was Pregnyl still in my system, then it would be getting lighter & lighter.

I don't know what to think, time will tell. I'm putting them on FF as -'ves as they didn't appear within the 5mins.

I'll get another CC from the chemist & test again tomorrow morning, if no lighter, then I'll have my BT on Tue instead of Fri, as nurse said I can.

I'd started to lose hope last week, but am regaining it again, hopefully for good reason, I don't know whether to cry or not right now, as it sounds promising, well thats what I keep telling myself.

What dyu think?

P.S. Sat was the anniversary of our blind (double) date 12yrs ago, what better timing, here's hoping...

Hi Shell -

Oooh, I hope this is it for you. Please get your BT sooner rather than later and I hope everything goes well.

Just a note: my two negative HPTs were still in the bin the other day and when I emptied it out, I noticed they had both gone to very very dark positives. I know the package insert says not to put too much store by that but this has NEVER happened before with any other HPT I've done.

Just hoping for the best Shell. Thinking of you.

Mel

Fingers crossed for you Shell! Cant wait to hear about it - plus Im thinking mel could do with a partner because we are supposed to board the pg ark in pairs!

Thanks Mel & Keen. I've posted a picture on 'my yahoo photos', just click my 'WWW' button to see it. My homepage/website is still down, bl**y Kooee, still chasing them to fix it.

Good morning girls

Firstly, Thanks to everyone for listening to my whinging.......


SHELL - Very exciting stuff!! I'm crossing everything for you today xxxx

Just a Q. for anyone who's used Crinone gel in their TWW and I have to warn there is Far TMI coming;

Ok here goes;

I have been getting these, sorry no other way to put it, big clumps of stuff when I wipe that I am assuming is the crinone. It is quite thick and (very clumpy), Sorry again, sounds terrible I know. Has anyone else had this? Sometimes it is even a little discoloured almost a bit like old blood stained. I'm worried that something is wrong.

Thanks

Ali xxxxxxx

Ali,

Oh yes, it's the Crinone Curse. Very yuck and happens to everyone who is on Crinone. I had stuff (TMI alert) coming away for weeks!

Shell, it does sound really good for you. I made a deal with myself not to POAS this cycle coz from ET to BT is only 9 days. I figured that that isn't much of a TWW, and I should be able to go the distance.

But today I am convinced that it hasn't worked, as I always do (and I'm usually right!) so am thinking I may succumb by Thurs. I shall have to see.

One last important message:

KEEN! GOOD LUCK HUNNY I'LL BE THINKING OF YOU ALL DAY!


love
sushee

Keen, good luck today!!

Sush, hang in there, you have two top quality blasts on board, I am feeling very positive for you this time! Remember that Joja and Mel both got BFNs from POAS then got the BFP from the BT. :bluestick: :pinkstick:

Sushee,

Fingers crossed that you get your BFP, you very much deserve it.

Good Luck Keen, thinking of you.

Trish, thinking of you too, friend. Hoping that things are moving along for you.

Tiff

Hello all
Boy does this board move fast!! Can hardly keep up.

Congrats Melbo.

Shell ~ all my five BFP's I have gotten I used 2 - 4 HPT's every time and the first couple of BFP's all looked like them. That last one fo yours looks good to me. I agree they would be getting lighter rather than darker.
Hope this is it for you

Hi to everyone else and good lucks all around.

Not a gret weekend for me. DH was in a foul mood all weekend. It always happens the closer we get to the "making baby" part.
Anyway as for my scan today
I have lots of follies. she did not tell me how many because they are all under 10mm and she said that you dont know how many of those will actually turn into bigger follies or if any will reabsorb.(anyone had that happen?)
So my dose has been upped to 350IU(from 200) and I go back in on Thursday for another scan.
Man I hope there is progress by then.
The longer the process takes the more antsy martin will get.
My Endo lining was 8.

Cazz

Hi all,

Blue ~ to answer your earlier question - I have not more frozen bubs left so have to go back to IVF

Ali ~ I had the same problem with crinone gel I know its gross the things we have to go through - If you get a BFP :crossfingers: then be prepared to continue with the gel, they don't want your baby to go cold turkey on progesterone

Good luck keen :luck:

Cazz ~ you'll be surprised at how fast your follies will grow on a higher dose good luck

:bluestick: :pinkstick: for everyone

Thanks Ness & Sush, that puts my mind at ease, it's not so much the grossness (if that's not a word it is now) it's just the stress of not knowing whether it is normal or not. Is even the discolouration normal??


Sush - I know how hard it is to stay positive and I think sometimes it's easier for us to be negative just so we're not setting ourselves up for a fall at the end. But you have such an added advantage knowing that your precious embies already made it to day five really strong & healthy. There's no reason why they shouldn't continue. I'm sending you more :pinkstick: even though I think you've got it in the bag!!!


Ali xxx

Ali ~ yes discolouration is normal the gel that you are seeing was not used by the body and is coming from the uterus so it brushes past the lining on the way out

HTH

Thanks Ness :D

Sal, Tiff and Ali,

thanks so much girls for the positive vibes. I guess after 7 cycles without even the shadow of a BFP, I can't help but be a negative nelly.

Funny story: I just tried to book a post cycle review with my FS, and his receptionist said that the notes he's made are that I shouldn't make an appt with him until after my BT (which he's never done before) for a OBYGYN appt! He's got a really wry sense of humour, so I think it's his little playful joke on me for the month!

I will try to be more positive. And will probably POAS on Thurs!

love
sushee

Hi just a quick post from work as I'm snowed under. Good luck Keen. I'm out this month as AF turned up on Sat - 8 days after tfr :smt102 Have a good day everyone!

So sorry Bee :(

Bee - I'm so sorry honey. Take care of yourself :hugs:

Ali xxxxxxxxx

Bee, what a bummer. *huge hug* Will you do a back-to-back FET next?

Ali - it does seem that it is the crinone that is causing all that yucky stuff... I have had a little as well.

Sush - Cant believe you only have 9 days to wait until BT - I have 12! You can hang in there and no peeing, k? Dont be thinking you havent been successful yet, you are still just as likely to be pg. Sounds like your FS is feeling positive for you!

Cazz - I had some follies reabsorb last cycle... apparently. Sending you lots of **follie growing dust**

Shell - I checked out your photo and I have to say looks pretty good to me!

Have a quick question for everyone - how long were you using the progesterone pessaries for post transfer? My clinic has given me enough for 7 days only. I dont feel that is enough. What do you guys think??

Thanks to everyone for their luck and well wishes! We actually made it to transfer - YAYE! So here I sit with a strong little embie on board.

Also as for the 4 embies that we were told had stopped growing? Well we got told today that 3 of those 4 have despite it all actually decided to keep in growing meaning we have 10 embies! Now with one on board we are hoping to be able to freeze the remaining 9, but wont know until tomorrow afternoon because they are not at freezable stage as far as they are concerned.

But feeling hopeful and positive right now.... just wish the wait to BT was not so long!

Bee, honey Im so sorry... :hugs: wish you had an explanation for that. Thinking of you.

Oh Bee, I'm soooo sorry, hope u get that BFP ASAP...

Sushee, I was feelin very positive, up until early-mid in the TWW, then all of a sudden I felt like it wasn't going to happen, now this. Hopefully expecting our 1st, which to me is just going to be extra special, so hence why I'm getting sooo excited, sorry if I've brought any of u down, I know u all deserve BFP's, so lotsa sticky vibes to us all. Hang in there. I know many of u have been thru TTC alot longer than I, so hope u ALL get BFP's ASAP.

You too Keen, u need to put some more sticky vibes, goodluck symbols etc next to your name on page 1, although you won't need that luck, as this mth is going to be it for u & Sushee too.

Keen - It does seem a bit strange that you only have seven days worth. I have 15 days worth & have been told that if I get that BFP will most likely continue on the crinone for a bit longer. I would definitely be asking questions about that one darl. BTW great news about your embies, it must feel sooooo good to know you have all of those precious extras.

Take care

Ali xxxxxxxxx

hhhmmmm thats what I was thinking too Ali. Might just call doc and request a prescription for some more crinone...

Keen ~ This is the latest info from the Dr's and that the progesterone is now done for everyone. Crinone gel in the morning and pessaries for night (is that what your on?), thats what I was on and I had them all throughout the TWW and beyond. On my 7th attempt (1st FET) I fell pg (later m/c) but after BFP I still had to do gel and pessaries. The reason is - an embryo produces progesterone - so the Dr's have decided that if they flood the body with progesterone then the embryo will get comfy and stay (touch wood) - you are taken off them around 8-10 weeks pg - so as not to make the embryo go cold turkey from no progesterone.

Be warned I had horrible back aches with this - its natural to have back aches when pg because of the production of progesterone. I also found that these drugs mimicked alot of pg signs so be careful. Worst of all if you are not pg (hope this is opposite for you) then you will not get AF straight away. Progesterone holds back AF, so you don't get it until about 1 week after stopping gel and pessaries.

HTH

Bee ~ I am so sorry AF found you :flower:

Bee, so sorry for you, that seems quick for AF, is it. Did you have any hormone support.

Sticky vibes to those with embies on board.

And good luck to all the waiters, but I guess we all are in a way aren't we.

Take care

Bee, I'm so sorry AF arrived. I am amazed that it came so early (??) What's that about? I hope you're doing back to back FETs. You still have some snowbubs don't you?

Keen, Yay on finally getting to transfer! OMG, I knew we were meant to be cycle buds!

As for progestorone support, I used Crinone for my very first cycle, but am now only 200mg pessaries 3 times a day. Lots less yuck, but yuck all the same. The clinic used to give me 60 tabs previously, but have reduced them to 45 this time (smaller bottles), so I have enough for 15 days. Doesn't sound right that you only have enough for 7 days.

And while I know I shouldn't POAS, I don't think I'm going to be able to resist. I am truly scared of getting to that phone call full of hope, only to be told that it's no cigar again.

love
sushee

Ok, you guys have convinced me that my initial reaction was right and I will contact Doc tomorrow and request more Crinone - even if I have to pay for it on top of what we have already spent. I am currently having it twice a day, but only have enough to last me through to this Sunday. Does anyone know about how much it costs?

Sush, I know what you mean about POAS. I have a feeling that I will this time seeing as I have to wait so long!

Keen - Sorry can't help with the cost but I'm only on the crinone once a day and that's it as far as luteal support.......... I just wish every clinic did it the same as it would save a lot of worry & confusion

Ali xxx

:help:

i am losing my mind i'm convinced now !!!!! i rang the clinic regarding the amount of injectibles in the Gonal F vials they gave me i was told there was 1200iu in each well i got to this mornings injection and i only had 50iu so i had to mix up the other vial to get the other 150iu i shouldn't have finished that first vial till tomorrow so i am missing 350 iu :smt102 and i am so sick to death of being spoken to like i am being stupid getting answers is not only a career but near impossible i have paid a crap load of money and invested my heart and soul into this and just feel like i should just give up now and save myself the heart ache ](*,)

Shazz.... seems pretty straight forward - you are right and they just dont want to admit a mistake! You're right you are paying a tonne of money for their service, its about time they provided a proper one.

I hate how when you speak to these nurses they make you feel stupid. Even though you should be able to ask anything and get a straight answer.

Hope you get some answers Shazz, just doesnt seem right that they are not listening to you!

Bee - Hugs.

Shazz - Ring the clinic again and put your mind at rest, do not be put off by the nurses, they make mistakes ALL of the time.

Sticky vibes for all those with BOB!!

Ali,
I went through with Micheal Gronow,
Not fantastic manner but great results.
Bec

Hi all,
Bee, I am sooooo sorry AF has arrived. Sounds like work is keeping you too busy to even have time to think about it. I know you will be back to try again soon.
Shell, looking good. Hope you get to be our first august graduate (there is going to be at least 3 this month \:D/ )
Keen, Keep that bubba safe and sound for 9 months.
shazz, sounds like those vials are messing with your head. Hope the nurses listen to you this time.
I had my IVF appt today and was pleasantly surprised. The doctor was really nice and by the end I was feeling like we were just having a chat over a cup of coffee, rather than a doctor's appointment.
Poor DP got a hard time about smoking and was very embarrassed when I talked about how we didn't BD much. But he was very happy as the doctor agreed that timing BDing puts too much pressure on and that you should just do it 2 or 3 times a week, when you feel like it. So he says he is now only doing it when we want to!
She said my eggs were likely the problem, as previously I had no probs. getting pg. but was happy to have a go at IVF with my eggs but we are going to do a day 2 blood test, which I think tests FSH, to see if that is looking OK. If that looks OK, we may do a cycle with my eggs but if it is not OK we will probably do a donor egg cycle.
Only problem of course is finding a donor. The anonymous donor list is closed as it has a 5 year wait so the other options are a known donor ie. friend or relative or an unknown donor ie. advertise for a donor. Both DP and I feel more comfortable with the known donor option but of course as we are both in our 40s most of the people we know are that age so we are both wracking our brains trying to think of people we know under 35 and preferably in their 20's that might consider being a donor for us. She says a donor egg cycle with a donor under 35 has a 1 in 3 chance of working whereas, with my age it is 1 in 500 so it is like, why would we bother with my eggs?
so looks like I will be hanging out with you for a bit longer. :D

So Sorry Bee - it is so disappointing to say the very least. No words can comfort but your friends are here.

Ali & All I only had 14 days worth of Crinone and I got AF before I finished it - it doesn't always delay AF.

Keen - Congratulations with your little cub -hope they are snuggling in for long hibernation.

If you get a script there is apparently a chemist near Merrylands that sells it cheaper than most clinics I wil try to PM the lady I met online and ask her.

My clinic said you don't need it after 14 days (starting from ET) because embryo makes their own but if i get BFP I will be inisisting on staying on it.

Anney - wishing you all the best as you weigh up your options

Shazz- keep ringing them I wish they didn't give you so much grief - you already have enough to worry about - you need not worry over this too. I hope you get straight answers.

I've got my 1st BT Friday to detect Ovulation and I got the okay to have Pregnyl for luteal phase support so I much happier.

Hi Ladies,

Bee - I'm so sorry about AF. It's just not fair. :hug: Thinking of you.

Anney - That appointment sounds like it went very well and the doctor seems wonderful. I hope the results of this two day blood test are good because it would be so great to be able to do that first cycle with your own eggs. Good luck with it all.

Trish - Thinking of you for Friday with the BT and I hope this cycle goes really well for you.

Keen - YAY at having a little cub on board! Wishing you a speedy TWW with a nice big fat positive at the end of it! Hope you've stuck some extra sticky vibes up there for yourself.

All the Crinone discussion prompted me to ring my own clinic and ask what the go is. I was on Crinone from the day of transfer to the day of the first BT. One gel application a day which I put in just before bed. I asked the nurse if there was ever an occasion when they would prescribe progesterone for longer. She said that if the patient had bleeding, they would certainly do that. If not, they had found it was best to let the pregnancy get on with making its own progesterone. It's funny how every clinic seems to have different practices.

Sush - sending lots of sticky vibes to you and I hope you and Keen will be graduating very soon. Can completely understand the urge to pee on a stick. It is so hard to resist.

Going to head off to bed now so I'll bid you all good night.

Love,

Mel

Name Firemansgirl (Leisa)
State NSW
Previous cycle length 29-35
Cycle type natural
Medications Elevit 1 per day and 500mcg folic acid per day
Important dates cystoscopy bladder 12th August

Anney ~ I am gland that you have found a doctor in which both you and DH are comfortable with - I hope that it is just a small problem with the eggies that the doc can fix - good luck

Trish ~ good luck for your test on friday

I have come to the conclusion that all clinics work completely differently than the other - my clinic keeps you on masses of progesterone after a BFP, yet I have noticed that some girls are saying that there clinics stop cold when you get a BFP. My clinic's reasoning is not to stop feeding the embryo cold to gradually go off progesterone - they feel stopping cold of the stuff can stop the growth of the embryo as they are used to progesterone.

You'd think that IVF would be an accross the board type thing where there is a standard practice - I am amazed that it is not.

On a personal note 6 days after stopping progesterone the witch finally turned up, now I can move on to my next cycle - number 9.

Hi everyone Sticky vibes to Sush and Keen.
Shell did u end up having ur BT?

On the progesterone front after my IUI I had 1 pessary daily until 14DPO and then if BFP was to continue til 8 week pg. As my BT was inconclusive I had the pessaries for 3 weeks.

Update on me
I had my appt and BT 28/7 as AF was still very sluggish. (35DPO) Then I had an appt yesterday mt HCG from 28th was 1500 so up on the last one, the sac (empty) the dr saw on the 28th has gone from 7mm to 4.5mm so he thinks the miscarraige will eventually happen by it self BUT he can't definatively rule out EP so back for more BT monday pheww!!! Needless to say I am very frustrated because I just want to start again!! I went and saw my boss yesterday and have decided to take 2 weeks off to regroup.

Sorry for the spill. Good luck to everyone. Here's to lots of Mothers Day sursrises...

Shez xoxox