TTC after Recurrent Miscarriage/Stillbirth or Loss after the first trimester Sept '07

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morning ladies, very quiet in here, hope everyone is well. jo how you feeling today?
me - feeling a bit ugh you know the feeling when af is making her presence known, she's a couple of days away but just letting me know she's going to rear her damn ugly head! was feeling optimistic about this months chances until this morning. no news from my SIL there goes another one of my theories lol.

Klee, dont give up all hope just yet, symptoms of pg and af can be very similar. But, you know your body - all the same I still have :crossfingers: for you. Dont worry about your SIL theory being wrong, hopefully you will completely bomb out and she will have a boy?!?!? :pray:

Kat, have you gotten any more levels back yet? any more doc apps?

Hi to everyone else, sorry new thread and havent read back on the old thread as yet... hope you are all well.

I have pretty much recovered from Nicholas' 1st birthday now, I am still a little disappointed at a select couple of people who either didnt remember him, or didnt care enough to comment. But as my sis said, that is their problem not ours. She says if they cant acknowledge your childs birthday then dont acknowledge theirs (one of them has a baby due in about a month). As much as I try not to worry about it, it still hurts - he is still our baby, whether he is here with us or not. But the important people made us and him feel special so all is good :)

Off to get an ACa BT today (inspired by Kat) to make sure that my levels havent changed at all - i.e. gotten higher than the initial test. So yay fun, but mum is shouting me lunch afterwards and my little 3yo nephew is coming too.

Anyway, hi to everyone else.

:hug: to Oliver.

Mel

Thanks Mel, good to you have you back, it seems like ages lol. Good luck for your BT, keep us updated on your results. Sorry to hear some people didn't remember, but I think your sister is right, if they can't acknowledge your son, don't acknowledge them. See how they feel when you make them feel how your feeling. That didn't make sense but you know what I mean, I think, you know crazy lady to crazy lady, lol

my emotions are a little wooohooo today, my sids lady rang and I just started balling, luckily when I got back to my desk there was chocolate cake a waiting. Just what a depressed chocolate addict needs, mmmmmm

Kat where are you?

Lynn – thanks for the update on oliver, send some hugs from me too.

Hey Klee - From one crazy lady to another crazy lady - mmmmmmmmm choccie cake ;)

Hey I was talking to Maria last night, they just got back and had a nice time, but obviously emotional. It isnt her month again this month :( While I was talking to her I realised I forgot to ring and say I wasnt going to the meeting last night :doh:

Hope you are feeling a bit better after talking to the sids lady :hug:

Hi everyone,

Just a quick update on Spring - both her and Oliver are doing well. I passed on all your luv & hugs to her.

Mel - I think I know who you are talking about and your sister is right - it is there loss. Don't worry about them. Treat them as they treat you, I say! Sounds harsh but if people can't acknowledge your baby then why should you acknowledge theirs. How did your BT go?

Klee - I hope so much that they are pg symptoms. I have everything crossed for you babe :pray: I hope you enjoyed your chocie cake - yummo!

Hi to everyone else - hope you are all well :hug:

howdy everyone.
Klee- i hope those aren't af symptoms. i still have my fingers crossed.
Mel- glad you are feeling a little better. it is such additional pain to have people not recognize your Nicholas on his birthday when they know they should. it reflects upon their own fears, and their inability to step outside themselves for the benefit of a loved one. perhaps send a card directly to their baby, and just leave them out of it if you want a relationship with the child. perhaps a card signed from you both and Nicholas. :hug:

thanks for your wishes and thoughts ladies, she's definitely on her way cause my temp has continued to drop, but I have to say i had the best laugh last night, haven't laughed that much since i was pg with Phoebe. mel the craziness continued for the rest of teh night, i seriously think they did spike the chocolate cake, hmmn if thats what one piece does to me I want another one lol
mel - i like aunty m's idea of just addressing the card to their newborn, see what they think then, then again if they have been that ignorant to your feelings they probably wouldn't even notice!
lynn - how you feeling? the pain in your sacrum getting any better? i used to do an exercise class that specialised in that area it was a bit like yoga
aunty m - how have you been? hows the weather been?
morning to everyone else, would love to see you around

Hey all,

I'm back, not that i've been gone for long! LOL!

how is everyone?

im here but now im gone!!
just found thread but now i have to go !!
Love to you all!!
katti

morning ladies, sorry i wanted to pop in yesterday afternoon but it got busy around here. how is everyone today?
as for me, not really getting any symptoms of af now, just a niggly pain that comes and goes, thats about it, still another couple of days though, yes succumbed to testing but bfn (as expected). accupuncture tonight, yay, will see what she says.

Hi Girls,

Its been really quiet in here lately hasnt it? Everyone seems to have disappeared :(

SB - Any news from docs? I got my ACa levels done again, after our conversation I was worried that maybe it is possible for them to change so decided to ask for my levels to be checked. Havent got the results yet, but should get them today. I am just worried that if the levels are higher than they were in the initial test and we dont pick it up they wont be able to treat me properly when I get pregnant (IF I ever bloody well get pregnant).

Lynn - Yes you do know who I am talking about :rolleyes:, but I have to admit there were a couple of people I thought I may at least get a text message from but didnt. I am really disappointed in them, but a friend said we cant be too hard on them cause until someone has lost their baby they cant understand how hard it is. I think well thats true but man it doesnt take an einstein to realise that the pain doesnt go, that all anniversaries - especially your babies 1st birthday - is hard. So yeah I have decided that I just wont make an effort for those people, if I never hear from them again well they werent worth having as friends in the first place.

Aunty M - I agree with you that people are just unable to step outside their own lives, I personally dont think those people even really thought of Nicholas. Their lives go on, and the reason they havent contacted us is cause they know ours is still a mess so they put you in the too hard basket and I would be surprised if they even think about us anymore. I like your idea of the card, but Klee is right they wouldnt even notice, they are just like that. And I dont think I do want a relationship with the child. I just feel bad cause its DHs only mate who will have children (all the others are born to be bachelors) and I feel like maybe I should just make an effort for his sake. He gets annoyed at them too, but you know men, they can forgive alot more easily than women.

Klee (aka "crazy lady") - LOL I hope you got more cake yesterday... and then went and sat in a playground waiting and watching for your laugh of the day :p You are right about the card, they wouldnt notice!

Jo - How you going? How is DS?

I worked yesterday at a radiology practice typing reports. I nearly had a freak out in the morning cause I forgot that der where do you get obstetric ultrasounds from? So I was thinking OMG how am I going to get through today. I had to type mainly early pgs, like nuchal trans studies and dating scans, but then got a 36 week one and thought oh I hope this doesnt upset me. But you know what, as much as I was thinking the whole time "I hate you" about the patient, I managed to keep it together and just got on with the job. I was very proud of myself so had to share it.

Oh well better go have a shower, then heading off to my sisters for the day.

Take care everyone :)

Oh Klee - I just noticed your new sig... that is so beautiful :crying:

Oh Klee :hug: your sig is just beautiful :hugs:

It has been quiet in here. How is everyone going?

Mel - you should be proud of yourself! That is such a massive thing to do with those reports especially the 36w one. big hugs to you babe :hug: You are right, they are just not worth it. How hard is it to remember a first birthday. If Nicholas was here would they remember?!?!? To me there is no difference, he still had a birthday. Did you get your bt results?

Jo - how are you going? You have been a bit quiet - hope everything is ok.

Klee - good luck with the acupuncture. I hope it works wonders for you. Good luck with your testing. I am hoping so much and have everything crossed that you get your bfp :pray: I'll be thinking of you over the next few days and hope to hear some great news from you.

SB - how are you going? You have been quiet which isn't like you ;) I hope you are ok :hug:

Hi everyone!
Don't know why I couldn't find the thread but I'm here now?!@!
Klee - Your signature bought me to tears...absolutely beautiful
Mel - Glad you're feeling better hun...sorry that people have let you down...but I agree with the girls - it's their problem!
AuntieM - JLK - Lynn - SB - a big hello and hope you are doing ok xxx

Me - Been a bit quiet, trying to get my head sorted before we start the synarel next week. Taking my asprin everyday and living in hope that all these extra drugs they are throwing at me will be the 'miracle' treatment we are looking for. Spent the afternoon cuddling my 4 week old nephew and my uterus is tantruming...I am sooooooo clucky!!!!!!!

Hey all,

sorry I haven't been in lately, busy on the farm! DS had a setback with his collarbone, his first day back at school was wednesday & it got knocked, so back to the doctor & back to the pain he had when he first had it! So now we are doing school work at home, cos the teachers just don't care, they made him write with his left hand! (beleive me, you cant read his writing with his right hand! LOL!)

Hoping to catch an egg this month, don't know what we did different but the other day DH actually had something there (semen wise) so perhaps there is hope!

sorry for the long post!

how are we all?

Hi Jo - So sorry for DS! He must be going crazy! Just to add my 'teacher' bit...they are required to provide the work for you and mark it!!!! And if they say they won't...ask them how they are going to have all the information they need to write his report!!! Sorry for getting mad...but that's just not good enough!!!!

Ellie - we managed to get some work for him, english, maths & science (even a maths test LOL!) but to get it we had to try a couple of times & eventually rang the principal (sp)

auntie m - thinking of you today on yeti's 6 month birthday, happy 6 months handsome, i know your watching over your mum, dad and sibling peanut, keep them safe.
jo - hope ds is okay, how nasty of the teachers, what do they think he's putting it on? how terrible
well i became an aunty again overnight, to a little girl, haven't seen her yet but she is here, alive, healthy and safe and thats the main thing. my brother called to tell me but text the rest of the family, i thought that was kind of nice, i had to put df on to take the rest of teh call because as you can expect there was a few tears, happy and bittersweet ones. i spoke to them both this morning and we were all crying, but as i said to them, this isn't about me, this is about you guys and your beautiful healthy daughter, they are happy for me to visit whenever i am ready, so thats good too.
as for me, no sign of af yet, she is not due til tomorrow though, i did test this morning but i don't want to get my hopes up, going to wait a few more days before testing again, thats if she doesn't turn up in the meantime.
anyway i hope everyone is well and i'm sorry it was all about me today

I lost the thread. now I have marked it again I'll be back when I have more time.
hugs and thinking of you all
Judy

Oh Klee...I became an Aunty 4 weeks ago and it is a time of such mixed emotions. Your family sound so caring and understanding...which is really special. I spent the afternoon with my nephew on Friday and I just love him to bits but it did cross my mind...'would our babies have looked like him?'...he is the first bub on my side of the family which stirs up all those types of questions I guess...anyway...I'm dribbling...just wanted you to know I think you are so brave xxx

howdy everyone.
Klee- nice sunny fall days this weekend, is it spring and lovely there? i love your beautiful signature line to Phoebe. so heartfelt and lovely. glad to hear you had a good, healing laugh the other day -- it is so good for the soul to laugh. thanks for thinking of Yeti today. you are facing your new auntieness with such courage! it is such a difficult journey, take the time you need to face your own feelings. :hug:

Mel- yeah, if they won't notice, then it isn't worth it. at this point, you need to do what makes your life less difficult and painful. whatever that is will be the right choice. good on you for making it through that work day -- what an awful assignment.

Ellie- my fingers are crossed for you!

Jo- woo hoo on dh's count!

today is a tough day. Yeti's six month birthday should be such a different day than it is, with no cuddles or smiles or cameras. i love this Peanut and am so glad for her/him, but i want Yeti too. sometimes the pain is so much to bear.

Good mornong Lovely Ladies!!!

I have not been doing much comp work lately, so no BB for me. I have come in early today to get my fix and then i will be gone again for a few days!!

KLEE i love your new sig, its so sweet. I hope those pains you are feeling are implantaion and uteris stretching pains!!! I am still crossing everything for you!! Yes, everything, we haven't been putting in much effort this month!! You never know, it might pay off, his swimmers might be extra keen seeing as they arn't getting out much!! LOL
It sounds like your family have been really understanding about you and their new bub. Congratulaions to them from me. And a bigggg hugg to you and DF. It is so bitter sweet isn't it. Some people make this whole having babies thing look too easy! Like you said, it will be us one day!!

Auntie M Happy 6 months to your darling Yeti. I am sure he is celebrating in his own special way. I was thinking about how we talked about our little angels spirits, i am picturing that while Peanut is still a peanut and his or her spirit is still free and roaming, that it may mean that peanuts spirit and yeti's spririt could be spending time flittering around together before peanut joins the people world. I thought you might like that picture in your mind. And i beleive that our beans or sprouts or peanuts spirits can roam while they are in utero before they are actually born. And i beleive that our angel babies are out there somewhere in the same space time continuum (ok i made that bit up- i dont know know what a time space continuim is, but it sounds good!!) So it makes sense to me that they are out there together for this short time!! What do you reckon?

MEL Hey there, i have been completely un motivated this month!! I haven't sent away for opk's or pg tests, i haven't made another dr's appt, i am just being slack. I will make an appt today to see my local ob and to get another referral to a high risk ob on the coast. This is my mission. But i am just following my origianl instructions by staying off aspirin until preg and take it from there. But i will get my anti done again before i get preg cause as you were saying its harder/not possible to get an acurate level when you are actually preg. As i said, i have been completley un motivated this month, and knowing me, this is when it will happen!! I hope sooo!!!
I have half picked up from your posts that some good friends of yours have forgotten Nicholas on his special day- i agree with the others, as hard as it might be, if they are your friends then it should matter to them how your are feeling always, in good times and in bad. there is nothing worse then "Fine weather Friends" They are the kind of people who are only there for the good times and who tend to disapear when things get tough or uncomfortable. They could at least be upfront and maybe tell you that they at least remember its Nicholas's day and that as much as they love you it is too much for them, but they could at least acknowledge him and your pain.
I get the ****s a bit because over the years people have completly forgotten about Darren. And this is even sadder- after loosing Zahra at full term- people then made an assumption that he was forgotten because he was just a feotus, not a full term baby- he will always be special to me he was my first born son,and always will be. And like you said, until it happens to them they just dont get it.

I had an interesting weekend, we had our friends who we haven't sen for a long time visit and they brought their new baby boy Oliver. It was good to see them after such a long time, and it was easy to talk to them, it was like we just saw them last week!! I was a bit unsure how i would feel seeing little ollie, but it was good. I had a feew cuddles and no tears. My friend has had her share of preg problems, with her first son he was born 2 months premi and she has problems with bloodpressure and her and her partner also suffered a miscarrage a few years ago, so i know she appriciates what she has. She took some time out to look at Zahra's pictures and things which was nice. As everyone says she said she looked beautiful like a princess. (Zahra actually means Little Princess, and Darren means Little One)

Well, thats it from me for now, off to do some work- i will be back!!!

Hi Tio judy and Jo!!! (BTW jo, this is a long post!!!!!)

morning ladies
kat you crack me up, you sure you not a trekkie, lol, space time continuum, but laughing aside its a good way of looking at it. i have to tell you, when we fell with phoebe, df probably only got lucky once that month and thats cause it was my birthday, he kept joking that it was immaculate conception.
jo - i too had a laugh when you said sorry about the long post, i thought to myself have you ever seen kat or mel's lol, sorry ladie. how is ds today? hows his collarbone?
ellie - you give me hope that i too can love her to bits, i have spoke with mel about this before and our nieces and nephews are the next best things to our own children, so whilst we have no children of our own we should spoil our nieces and nephews rotten, because lets face it when they are healthy and here they are a blessing.
auntie m - sorry yesterday was so tough, 6 months is a big milestone, they should be half a year old, thats huge, love, hugs and all thats warm to you, dh, yeti and peanut.
judy - how you feeling? af treating you well?
as for me, still no af and no signs of anything, just feeling a little warm, not testing today for obvious reasons. af please please stay away, and don't come back for many a day (or 9 months or so) ;)
thanks for the wishes for my niece, just saw a photo of her and she looks exactly like her brother, still a few days away from going, so preparing myself mentally

Klee - big big hugs to you babe. It is nice to hear the safe arrival of a bub but it is so bittersweet for you. Take your time and look after your emotions :hugs: I hope you get your own good news very very soon. Sending you heaps and heaps of :bluedust: I have everything crossed for you. Thinking of you babe :hug:

Auntie M - i posted to you in the other thread but again happy 6 months birthday to little Yeti. Thinking of you :hugs:

SB - that was very brave of you to hold that little bub. I'm so glad that they wanted to talk about Zahra and see pics - it must have made you feel good.

Jo - I hope DS is ok? This month sounds promising - I hope you do catch that eggie.

Hi to Ellie, Judy and Mel :hello:

just tried to get a cycle ticker from lilpie, its only coming up as a link- is this bad? how do i get the picture? Can anyone help?
Thanks!!

sorry kat, i don't know anything about them

starting to get some pains, doesn't feel good :(

Kat do you have the [img] and [/img] tags around it? It should show up if you put the tags around it. :) Having a relaxed cycle sound slike a good idea. Sort of doing the same thgn here but only coz I am sure tha no matter what i do anymore I am not getting a bfp so why bother with the hassle anymore. Just BD and that's it.

AuntyM I am sure Yeti is looking after peanut for you . It wouldn't have been unrealistic either to have Yeti and to be pg again so soon so it must be painful for you. (((hugs)))

Ellie you are so brave. I know I found it hurt too much to hold other or see other babies after Annabelle and before Samuel. I even stopped going to church coz of all the new babies and pg mums. And now after several m/c I stil can't face going back. Fingers crossed for you with the ICSI.

Jo what is next on the TTC radar for you now that you have DHs SA back?

hugs and hi to those I missed
Judy

Hey all,
DH's sperm analysis isn't back he hasn't had it done yet! what i meant was *TMI WARNING* usually when he ejaculates there is nothing there, as in no semen at all, but last week he actually had semen, although it was only a little bit!

Hey Klee, hope af stays away.

sb - bummer on the no computer

AuntieM - happy 6 month b'day for Yeti for yesterday!

Judy - Hello, how are you?

Hi to everyone else!

ps - ds is a bit better, back to school with him tomorrow, hopefully he lasts the whole day! LOL!

Hi Ladies,
I hope you dont mind me popping in I was just reading your letters and I wanted to send some Baby dust to you all . I lost three angels before I managed to have my two beautiful children. I count my self very lucky. Good luck to you all.:bluedust:

Thanks Judy, i found the right thing to cut and paste and it worked!!
I feel very official now that i have a ticker!!!! Except my dates are going to be a little off until i find my cycle again!!

LYN Thanks, it was nice that my friend wanted to see pictures of Zahra. She started crying when she saw them too. She really is a special friend, she was the person who was there for me with my other losses (she took us to the hospital and everything), she said that she wished i had called her and told her when it happened so she could have come to the funeral, but i just couldn't make that phone call until i was ready coz i figured she would either be pregnant or have had a baby (she would have been JUST pregnant if i had called when it hapened) and i wasn't ready for that. It was only since i started coming in here that i think i was mentally prepared to hear her news. And it was so good to see them that i didn't just focus on their baby, it was all just happy and good, which was really nice.
I think some of the girls in here are conspiring to break you and make you give in and tell us your flavour...... and i will do my bit to help them!!!;) I think you are having a girl coz you have said that your DH doesn't want to use Hope coz he doesn;t like it..... which tells me you are throwing girls names up to choose from.... but that is just my little devious mind at work!!! Good luck keeping it a secret!! LOL

Ellie Hi there!! Just wanted to say hello! You are brave too having cuddles with a baby!! It is hard when you are clucky isn't it!! I have the same problem. When i see a baby, the clucky side of me just wants to cuddle them forever, then reality hits and i remember why i am still so clucky!! I still get that initial want to pick them up and cuddle them, i just cant do it for too long!! One day soon we will have our own bundles of joy to cuddle everyday!! Bring it on!!:)

KLEE (holder of the crazy lady stick this week!! Dont worry, i'l have it back soon!!!) i am settling in for the afternoon, i will pm you soon. i hope AF is staying away and your pains are preg pains. My friend i just saw tells me she gets period like pains when she is concieving, i have heard that from a few ppl, so i am holding those thoughts for you!! STAY AWAY AUNT FLOW- you are not wanted here!!!! And no i am not a treckie!!!! LMAO!!!! But in high school we did go through a drunken phase of nicknaming ourselves after treckie people- i was called Cpt. Kirk!!! And we beamed up plenty of Scotch Scotty!!!! I dont think i have actually ever seen an episode!! I think i got the time space continuem thing from watching Dr. Who... same sh*t, different channel!!! SLMAO!!

MEL Hi dear, i felt so slack this morning that i have pulled my finger out and i have ordered my opks and preg tests and made my drs appt.:dance: (Thats alot for me to do in one day!!!LOL) But i cant get in until 4th of October (hence why i usually opt for the other guy, i can get in right away, but i am sick of seeing 20 different dr's, so i will just have to wait my turn!!) I will get my ACa done again and i will ask a few more q's about the aspirin. Hey i just had a thought, wouldn't it be cool if i needed to see him anyway by Oct 4th!!??? I hope so!!
Good on you for making it through all your reports!! I have often thought about you and what you do and how you would be coping with dr offices and preg ladies. It would be hard on you, especially temping coz you wouldn't want to have to tell a new boss everytime what has happened and how it might effect you. Big Hugs to you. How is the IVF going? Like i said i would, i have completely forgotten what you will be doing when. Are you back on the pill again yet? There will be a time when we want AF to be here on time or something too right? That will be weird, wanting AF to turn up!! But its all part of the process i guess.
I have been slack on the emails too, (so you are forgiven lol) but i will be so onto everything when i finally get my lap top!! (this month hopefully!!!) You thought they could get long before!!! Everyone watch out when i get my own comp and i can be connected 24/7!!!!!

Jo Thats interesting about your DH. Is he doing anything to try and help him make sperm or has this just happened out of the blue? I had to have a little giggle, i pictured the two of you examining his little blob of goo saying "oh, look at that, we have sperm!!" But seriously that is a great boost of confidence for you guys!! It will make a world of difference! Just knowing its there! Lets just make sure it all goes where its meant to!! Its to go in.. not to be looked at!! Sorry if i am being slightly immature on this topic...i dont mean to make any fun, just showing my age. And hey, there has to be some humour in our sad attempts. I hope you dont mind i found this so funny!!:lol:

Auntie M Thinking of you and sending big hugs your way!!

JUDY Thankyou for your help with my ticker!! i found the right thing to cut and paste so i got image!! I had trouble with the link to here too, but i found it eventually!! How are you feeling? Not too crampy i hope. Best of luck and sticky baby dust for this month love!!

We are having what they call in the football world "Mad Monday" at my pub today!! The pub is full of half cut, half naked footballers!!They won the local comp on the weekend (GO the Mullumbimby Giants!!!) They have been shaving their bum cracks and their heads and they are all dressed up (some actually in DRESSES) or half naked!! It is quite funny. I am upstairs listening to the roars of laughter and yelling music (they have played We are The Champions like 20 times!!) and good fun!! I am glad i am up here though!! Its scary down there!!! But its all in good fun!!

Thankyou Cessie for your baby dust and your inspiring story!! Its stories like yours that has helped to give me the confidence to be TTC again!! Lapping up my share of dust!!! Thankyou!!!

I am off to do a bit of work for now, take care everyone. Have a beautiful day!!
love katti xoxo

happy 7 months my precious girl, if you were going to be anything like your cousin you would be walking by now, so much to have lost, so much to be missed, wishing you were here.
sorry ladies no personals tonight, i've just realised i have barely touched the surface of my emotions, so much going on, so much to deal with, but you all know how i feel.
hugs to everyone tonight

~ Happy 7 month Birthday Phoebe :hug: ~

Big :hugs: to you and DF Klee, you already know I have been thinking about you today. I am sorry you have to go through this each month, its so unfair and I cant say anything to make it "ok", I just wish I could.

Love from Mel, DH & Nicholas

Happy 7 month Birthday Phoebe Thinking of you and DH today Klee.

SB - You are right about friends, I dont really consider them GOOD friends (well not anymore anyway LOL) but it still bothers me kwim. Well done on getting your apps sorted and opks ordered, hopefully you will be seeing him for all the right reasons! Do you think you have O'd this month? I noticed you are 10 days to testing, any ideas? Started Synarel on Saturday, on OCP until 21st - then waiting, waiting, waiting until 28th when I have scan... from there your guess is as good as mine :rolleyes:

Lynn - Did you get my email? I think you know which one I am talking about ;)

Aunty M - Happy birthday to Yeti for yesterday :hug:

Jo - Sending :fertilise: vibes your way.

Ellie - How you going? I started Synarel on Saturday - man, it tastes awful! And it makes me want to sneeze, and of course your not allowed to LOL. When do you start yours?

Judy - Welcome back - how could you lose us? :p

Cessie - Thanks so much for your kind post, I am sorry you have had to go through your losses - I am happy you finally got your 2 little precious ones, boy what others take for granted huh! :)

howdy everyone.
Kat- i love the thought of my peanut flying about with Yeti, and it would account for why he feels so close to me now- sort of a physical/spiritual link. thank you for that lovely thought. i'll have to admit to everyone that i am a huge sci-fi geek, and that space time continuum is not new lingo to me. lol. dr who was my favorite show in youth, and i admit to watching more sci-fi movies than any one human ever should. but that is only one reason i am a geek. lol.

Klee- happy 7 months to your precious Phoebe, and hugs to you. if only something could make these days better. :hug:

Jo- i agree with Kat, keep that good stuff where it should be! ;) exciting that there has been improvement!

morning ladies, just a short one from me, so much going on, just want to update you on what the go is with me so if i disappear in the next few days you'll know why. ok so still no af, tested on sunday morn got a very faint line on a 10 miu (or whatever they are) test, tested again this morning and the line was darker than sundays but still not overly dark. don't send the jumping green fellas yet, we have decided to wait until friday to test with a better test, because going off opk results af should be due friday, might continue with the 10 miu's until then. also going to organise a dr appointment for friday just in case. okay just need to breathe and relax. also just need all the sticky vibes I can get
mel, kat, judy, jo, ellie,thinking of you all and big hugs to everyone
mel thinking of you this morning, let me know what he says

Hey all!

Firstly Klee - sending you heaps of baby dust & sticky vibes :) Also Happy 7 months b'day to little Phoebe for yesterday!!

Kat - DH has nerve damage due to his type 1 diabeties, the semen actually travels backwards into his bladder instead of where it is supposed to go, I don't mind the humor, as you say we do need some humour in our attemts, just as long as I don't tell DH cos understandably he dosen't find it funny at all!

Mel - good to see you back, where are you up to with your IVF?

Hi to everyone else!

Hi everyone!!

KLEE i am still having trouble containing myself for you- i beleive this is all pointing to a great outcome!! But i will try very hard to hold it all in until you are ready to jump for joy! I am sending you sticky baby vibes all the way! I really beleive that you deaserve it, especially right now with all the stuff going on for you this past few weeks. What a way to celebrate your engagement!! I can only imagine how your emotions are at the moment- you may have the "crazy lady stick" for as long as you need it!!
I have to do some work now, but i will be back later!!
:stickyvibesgirl: for you!!
from katti

Klee OMG that is so great and with AF not even due til Friday. excited and great anticipation here for you... are you allowed to post pics here on BB or can you put pics in the gallery section? I am a bit of a POAS-a-holic here and like seeing pics... a friend in Birmigham and Ijoke about POAS on twigs if we run out of hpts or opks simply to fuel the obsession. Well lets face it I haven't had any lines on my tests in nearly a year now so I have to get my fix of lines somehow. rofl

AuntyM I grew up with Star Trek, yeah the one with William Shatner. We are now into the Stargate SG1 and Atlantis although have to get them from the internet as out local TV stations put them on after midnight and not regularly either. Did you ever watch Farscape or Firefly?
How are you feeling? Do you get/have morning sickness?

Kat I had to laugh about the footy club lol. What a way to let your hair down.. or in this case.. off!!! I hope it kept your mind occupied for a few hours at least. I have to get out in the garden to keep my mind not 100% on TTC.

Jo has anyone mentioned IVF then? I have two friends who are pg following needle aspiration of the sperm and then IVF. One is pg with twin girls and the other has her little boy and he is about to turn 1. It may just be an option to look at if he is producing sperm but not able to expel them in the right direction.

Mel I echo the others.. where are you up to with the IVF? I get lost easy on vBulletin boards lol esp when it rolls over to a new thread and I don't post straight away to mark my spot lol.

Hi to Ellie and Lynn and anyone else I have missed. It has taken me ages to writ thi swith many interruptions.. school holidays down here lol
CD9 and whacky temps and no lines on an OPK.. can I blame the lack of vitex? The headache started 4 days ago and i ran out on 10dpo so I am going to blame the vitex for everything. I ordered some more online so hope it will be here soon. The only difference is blackmores is 660mg tablets and I was taking 2 each morning whereas goldenglow is 1000mg one a day capsule. I guess I'll just see how it works/compares.
hugs
Judy