Babies Born May 2007 #9

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There are many issues that you will encounter as a new parent. We have put together this list of useful articles and threads in order to assist you with some common questions or issues you may have, and to provide you with bit of extra support that we all need as new parents:

Feeding Support:

Breastfeeding General Chatter
Breastfeeding FAQ's
Is My Baby Hungry?
Bottlefeeding FAQ's and Useful Information
Is Feeding Your Baby Taking Too Much Time?
Bottlefeeding General Chatter
Feeding Your Baby
Lactose Intolerance
Starting Solids/Homemade Baby Food
Starting Solids - When Is My Baby Ready?
Starting Solids General Chatter

Please contact the Australian Breastfeeding Association (ABA) or a Lactation Consultant if you are concerned that you may have breastfeeding and/or supply problems, and before the introduction of solids.

Sleeping Support:

Comforted Sleeping & Sleep Issues Forum
Comforting Tools to Aid Restful Sleep
Babies & Sleep
Controlled Crying/Comforting/Sleep Training
The Con of Controlled Crying
The Crying Game
15 Ways To Help Your Baby Sleep

Other Useful Information & Recommended Reading:

Baby Massage
Cuddle Me Mum
Infant-led Feeding & Weaning
Baby Wearing
Recommended Reading List

Got questions?

Post your questions in the forums mentioned above, or in the following forums where you're sure to receive many friendly responses!

General Baby & Toddler Forum
Breastfeeding, Bottlefeeding and Solids
Gentle Parenting Forum


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Catch up with your old thread here

Fanks Christy :)

Yay I'm first!

I just wanted to stop by and share some new Blakey pictures!

ashleeperrin/Baby Perrin - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

Ok. Back again. Now, for personals . . .

Jen - glad to hear your operation went well. Hopefully the mastitis is already on its way out. As for #3 - I'm living proof you should watch what you wish for!!!

Tan - yay for getting into sleep school. Maybe you won't need it though if Izzy is improving? At least you've got the appointment if she goes backwards. I'm going to be getting a play pen. We've got a really open plan ground floor to our house and I'd be much happier knowing Izzy was safe when I do things like go to the loo, or when Ned comes along and I'm changing his nappy, settling him etc. I have visions of Izzy pulling the tv down on top of herself and stuff like that - there's only so far you can toddler proof the house so I think a play pen is a great idea. And go the walker if your S (SIL?) is happy to buy it for you. Iz loves hers and it keeps her amused for a while which is great when I'm trying to get dinner on, wash bottles etc.

Muggins - that's very cool (if not a little scary) that Jack is crawling. LOL at the chucking everywhere - I've got that to look forward to too. Still, it will be a nice change to think that something other than me is covered in baby vomit!

LovemyKids - I've probably got more similar climate to you than the Melbourne girls do. There were definitely some nights when it was tough getting up cos it was so cold. Izzy slept in her cradle next to the bed so I would jump out, grab her and jump back into bed so it wasn't too bad. During the day she was pretty good though - she's a fairly warm bub so I never needed all the padded jackets, hats and mittens I'd bought.

Ash - that's cool you're on the MCNs. To all girls using them - do you have any troubles with leaks, nappy rash etc? How many do you need so you're not washing all the time (although I feel like I do that anyway given Izzy dribbles or chucks her way through three or four outfits a day!). Blake's new piccies are so cute.

Danni - really pleased to hear things are looking up a bit for you and life is a little brighter. Took me a while to work out who you were!!!

Sorry to all those I've missed - I've been going backwards and forwards between the threads but I know I've missed some.

Izzy is back to her normal self at nights - sleeping through (and OMG how good is daylight saving with getting that extra bit of sleep in the mornings when its darker and the birds shut up!!) but days have been pretty average. She now has 2 toothy pegs and the poor little love has really been suffering with it. She is sitting on her own now and pulling up on things to stand. She's finally managed to roll over back to front, although she still spits it when she gets there and doesn't know what to do next. Tried some pumpkin on her today and that went down a treat - about 1 teaspoon I think and she was actually opening her mouth wide for it. Knew that rice cereal must have tasted bad!! And its her 6 month birthday today - where did that time go?? I was in Coles today and the woman in the checkout line in front of me had a few weeks old bubby in a sling. Izzy looked so, well, old in comparison - like a little child rather than a bubby. I guess I can't call her a newborn anymore :-(

Anyway, better stop rambling and get out and water the garden. To top off our week the bore pump broke so I'm handwatering. Only got a 900m2 block so not much garden - should be done in about 3 hours!!!! Hope everyone is well and bubbies are all being good eating, sleeping, playing people. Will get back when I can.

awww photobucket is having maintenance :(

I should really update some pics of mason. you guys havent seen him for yonks! I havent taken many lately, but i promise to take more soon.

His christening is next weekend andf i hope to get some nice family ones :)

OMG, new thread already...

OK - I'm being lazy by not looking in the last thread for personals so I'm sorry, but I'm tired!! :lol:

Danni - is it Danni?! :lol: What's the story with the new username??? Did I miss something?

Lulu - Mia has super sensitive skin and it's actually worse when we use disposables believe it or not. So the MCNs have actually been a lifesaver for us. We rarely get leaks if at all. I LOVE MCNs!!!!!!!!! And OMG at Izzy standing herself up!! Clever girl! Mia loves standing holding on to the couches and playing with toys, but she can't get up there by herself yet... and she still hasn't rolled!! LOL

Ash - damn I can't see the pics!

AHHHHHHHH! I have my first 'paid' shoot tomorrow and I'm SO NERVOUS!!!!!!!!! Have another one on Sunday as well so hopefully after today my nerves will settle down and I'll be ok!! :lol:

Just thought I would pop on to see whats been happening!!
Lulu - My brother's house got broken into on Wednesday, it really is a horrible thing to happen to imagine that someone has been in your house. Glad that Izzy is back to her normal self with sleeps!!
Kristen - Good luck for tomorrow :)
I'll come back on sometime over the weekend, to see what I have missed, just about to go and feed Ethyn and go to bed.

Hi Everyone!

Kristen I am with you on the lazy bit - sorry guys don't feel like going back to old thread for personals!! I am having serious lack of sleep issues - like everyone else I spose!!

Lulu, I can't believe Izzy is pulling herself up and sitting on her own - what a clever girl!! MCN's are great, I have got enough now that I only wash every 2-3 days, and it is only one extra load so not a drama at all. I know they are expensive to start with, but I have cut down on sposies so much it is unbelievable. Angus has got the rolling down pat, but is nowhere near sitting yet.

Kristen - GOOD LUCK!!! I'm sure you will do great, you have a natural talent!! I thought I would have a prob with nappy rash and stuff with MCNS but I havent at all, I dont use any creams or anything on Angus's bum anymore - amazing!!

Anyway guys, I should go to bed I spose. Angus is still getting up for 1-2 feeds a night. Hopefully he might sleep through the night soon..... I am prob going back to work soon so I want him in a bit more of a routine (is there such thing I am wondering..)!! The solids are going great, he just has one lot at around 6pm, which he really hangs out for. He loves pumpkin, sweetcorn, sweet potato, avocado and I think that is all he has had. I have one of those net fresh food feeder thingys (best thing ever) and I put watermelon, pears, apple and rockmelon in it, and he chews it and sucks all the juice out!!! Is so cute, I have a video of it will have to try and put it on his website. I also gave him a rusk while we were grocery shopping today and he was like a crazyman, whenever he dropped it he screamed until I gave it back to him!!! Was hilarious, he ate half of it and had it all over him, was such fun!

Anyway, better go, will finish my wine and head to bed!!!

*Michelle*

Michelle - I know Ash mentioned the mesh feeder before, were can you get them from??

kristen: awesome news about the shoots. where did you advertise? thats great that you got work so quickly! good luck!

Tan - you can get those mesh feeders from places like target, they are a tommee tippee brand. I'm thinking of getting one soon too!!
I'm an MCN convert too!!! They are great! I started of by using disposables, then went to terry and flannelette flats, and now use MCN's. I have about 10 peapods. They are ok, am looking at getting some hautes. At the moment I'm still using sposies at night time, but I have just bought some green kids dreamy night ones, plus a couple of bamboo flats to use as inserts. Ethyn is a fairly big wetter so its just trial and error for us at the moment with them.

Lulu-I've not had a leak or a poosplosion in my month or so of using MCN's. If you put them on properly, and they are the right size for your bub, you shouldn't have any leaks unless it's left on for too long/not boosted enough. No nappy rash, but Blake currently has a rash (caused by the acidity in his wee cos of teething). I use Lucas's pPaw Paw ointment on it, way better than Bepanthen etc. I'm not into MCN's full time yet so you'd have to ask Kristen there, but I chuck them in with other Blakey stuff like towels, bedding etc and so far so good, no damamge and they smell as fresh as a daisy. Lucky you for having Izzy sleep through, Blake was up at 3:30am this morning and din't go back down till 6:30 which was only for 40 mins...he is up still now argh. Iz is such a smart girl, pulling herself up!

Danni-Yes you must put some new pics of Monster Mason up soon, I bet he's gotten so big! Good luck with the Christening,I hope it's all coming together nicely.

Kristen-All the best of luck with the shoots this weekend, I'm sure you'll blitz it!

Michelle-1-2 feeds, you lucky duck! Blake is up in excess of 3 times a night at the moment, and he has 2 erupted toothy pegs. Whoever said things get better after they come up, LIED!

Tan-You get the mesh feeders from Big W, they're about $7 or so!

Lee-I've not heard much good about peapods, how are you finding them? I have some Happy Heinys, a Nap Nap and a Swaddlebees. I'm ordering my Hautes today from Sarah at the NappyBucket, she is great, she said they are so so trim and much better than the old design, and they're $26 including 2 inserts!

I added a new photo to photobucket just now (it's up again so go check out my spunky little man). In this photo, you can see his late night partying is taking it's toll!

Ashlee - they aren't too bad, I think the only problem that I have with them is that he doesn't quite fit in the size bracket!! So they leak a bit, although when I add an extra booster its not too bad. I want to buy some hautes, but hubby won't let me!!! :( but I'm looking at going back to work soon, so will get a few then!! :)
Blake is such a cutie!! I need to add some pics to my photobucket so I can show everyone here!

Hi everyone,

I haven't been on her for a little while. It seems like you are all going great with your babies! Ella is now 5 months and 1 week old. I can't believe how quick it has gone!!!

She is still fully breastfed and she weighs over 8.5 kilograms and is about 67cm long. She is a big bubby! I often get comments that she looks older/bigger than 5 months. Does it mater that she is off the charts with her weight? She looks healthy and she is very cuddly! However It is hard not to listen to peoples comments at times.

Hope you all have a fantastic weekend!

Firstbub-Although Blake isn't BFed, he is off the charts for weight and length. Having a baby bigger rather than smaller (as in failing to thrive small) is always beneficial, you're doing a great job! Was she a big bubby born? Blake was prem at 36 weeks and was 6lb 5 oz! Hard to imagine he'd ever be on the larger side! He's currently 9.4kg and 72cm long!

wow at 72cm ash!!! he is gunna be so tall :D

You should see his arms, they are so lanky too!!!

Wow 72 cms!!!! Ethyn is a month younger and is only 65cm long!! he has only grown a cm in 3 weeks

Ashlee,

Ella was 8lb 14oz so she was a pretty big bub! I was exactly the same as Ella when I was a baby. Lots of fat rolls on the legs! I suppose at least if our babies got sick they have plenty of reserves!

Wow. Now I'm really confused by the whole MCN thing - so many different names. Might have to start doing some investigating I think. Love the "pooplosion"!!!

Now, what's a mesh feeder????

Firstbub - definitely wouldnt' worry about Ella being off the scales - somebody has to be and it just shows your little girl is nice and strong and healthy. And I'm sure all the others catch up and some point - they all seem to have spurts at different times.

Spoke too soon about Iz sleeping through the night again. She's been up teh last two and last night was awful - she woke up screaming twice with sore gums and teeth. Poor baby. Packed her full of nurofen and bonjella and it still took her ages to settle.

Yay Kirsten on your two jobs. I'm sure you'll do (have done!) splendidly.

poor izzy :(

Ok guys we are finally back to sleep school tomorrow! I wont be on BB till we get back on Thurs. Fingers crossed we get a better result this time. But I am most looking foward to the support.

Hope everyone has a fabulous week. xx

Hello!!!

Sorry I haven't been around much lately - we keep going over our internet usage allowance, so I've had to stay away!!! Its been hard too!!! Anyway, I'm just at Mums so I'll have to go back and catch up on everything later.

Just wanted to let you know that we're all good. I stayed at Mums last night (coz DH had his exam, finally, and went out for a big boozy night, so I didn't want to be home and disturbed AGAIN). It was great too - we put Luke up near Mum's room and she got up to him so I could FINALLY have a good sleep. It's worked wonders too - I feel like a new person today. I'm looking forward to DH being able to help out a bit more too!!! Yay.

Anyway must go. I'll try and get back on next week to catch up on everything but I hope all is wonderfully well.

Kelly xxx

Hi guys!

Danni, good luck at sleep school. Wish we had something like that up here. Angus is not too bad, he is in bed by 6.30/7. Wakes up periodically, I just get up and give him back his dummy, finally give in at about 1am cause he spits his dummy out, feed him, and then he starts his 3 hourly feeds again, so feeds at 1, 4 and then gets up at 7am. He does go staright back to sleep after a feed. I think the broken sleep is worse though!! I hope Mason does well and starts sleeping for you!! You will have to share the sleep secret tips that you learn!!

Lulu, the mesh feeder is like a net attached to a handle that you can put food in for them to chew and they can't choke on it!! Great idea, Angus loves his. You can get replacement nets also if they have teeth and manage to chew holes in it! I put fruit in it, but friends of mine use it for steak and stuff too. I just chuck it in the dishwasher, so easy as!! I got mine from Target, but I have seen them at Big W and even just in Woolworths and Coles. Great investment for about 7 dollars! Great for teething also, cause you can put ice in it, I find cold watermelon is great cause it is so juicy they dont have to bite or suck hard to get the juice out!

Ok, I need to have a quick vent, sorry in advance!! I am so p%$$@d off at my DH today. I know he works all week, but I figure that I do as well, I am the one getting up 50 times a night, also getting up at 7am to a crazy house getting DD to school. Let alone all the damn washing, dishes, cleaning etc etc. WHEN IS MY DAY OFF!!! He sleeps in on Sunday cause it is the only day he can, then he goes out to the shed or yard or whatever all day, and says he cant hold the baby or play with him cause he is dirty aarghh!! Now he has gone into bunnings for god knows how long, we have to stay home cause my car has a flat tyre and he didnt have time to change it. Angus just woke up screaming after only half an hours sleep when he normally sleeps for 2-3hrs in the morning. I have just done last nights dirty dishes, and THEN he asks me to make sure I do his washing!!!! Sorry, I sound harsh, but I would like time to sit back and relax also!! Anyway, sorry to bore you with my probs, just had to get it off my chest before I explode at one of the kids or somehting! I better go, will have to start thinking about lunch *sigh*

Take care
*Michelle*

Hi everyone!

Just thought I would share my excitement - I upgraded my bellybelly membership yay!!! Thought I needed to treat myself and I feel better now!! haha

Hey just wondering if anyone is on facebook? I seen the members section with facebook stuff. I found you Tan and Dan, i also joined the bellybelly group. Hope that is ok that i added you as friends!

Hello everyone!

Anyone that has MCN questions, you can fire away. I work PT at Darlings Downunder 2 days a week so I'm lucky I have quick access to MCNs when I need an upgrade! :lol:

The weekend was good - had my first paid shoot on Saturday (11.5 month old) which went SO WELL - so much better than I had anticipated and I got some really gorgeous shots which I hope the parents will love. Sunday I had a newborn shoot which was 'ok' - there's only so much you can do when they're little and the house was pretty dark so I had to stick the baby under a skylight on the dining room table :lol: Hopefully they'll still like them! :)

Well, Mia is 6 months next week and still has absolutely no desire to roll at all... I'm getting worried now! On the other hand, she can sit unaided, and will happily stand leaning up against one of our couches and play with the toys that we put in front of her without toppling over... yet she doesn't roll. I don't get it! I've tried everything - me rolling her showing her how to do it, putting toys/me just out of reach and calling for her to move over - usually this results in her just putting her arm out to the side and turning her head but she has no desire to reach her body over to grab something that's just out of her reach. She's just content to lie there!!! :lol: LAZYYYYYYYYYYY just like her mum!! It's pretty funny.

BBL for personals!

x

Just logged on and thought - Oh wow we have another newie in May Mums - but then realised its you Michelle!!!! heehee - Love your av - lookin good chickie!!

Kelly - Yay for Luke - I hope his sleeping keeps up for you!

Yay for the photo shoots Kristen - sounds like its going really well- I love your pics of Mia on your site too! What a cheeky monkey! I read somewhere that babies that sit up early, dont tend to roll until a bit later because they dont have to! :D they can sit and reach out and grab stuff so I wouldnt worry too much. Izzy will go from tummy to back occasionally but shes too busy chewing her toes when she is on her back to roll, even if toys are out of reach, you can tell she just thinks-pffftt I can eat my toes- who needs a toy?!

Sorry - poor attempt at personals here..... Im so tired even after having a nap that I feel like Im wading in mud today :( Whats all that about - I think all the disrupted sleep is catching up with me. Al got up to settle Izzy last night after I fed her TWICE and she still wouldnt settle - why do I feel guilty about that? Like I should have done it? Michelle (do you prefer Shell?Maybe I should call you that now that your name has changed ;) ) I hear you about the housework. Al does NO housework other than dinner occasionally or dishes. Nothing else. Whenever I hae a lighthearted dig, (with some seriousness underneath) I get a - oh thats your job, I work 12 hours plus travel time, work a very physical job blah blah yadda yadda. WTF??? Little wonder Im tired!

Anyway enough whining - I have a little business idea to do from home! Im a bit scared to share just yet in case it falls through and I feel like a d!CK, but it should keep me from going a bit insane at home plus bring in a little bit of much needed cash (hopefully). Will let you all know the verdict in the next week or so!
Going to make a coffee and watch Dr Phil - I think I will have couch cuddle day with my girl. Stuff it all.

Hi gorgeous mums and bubs,
I'm having a really rough time here at the moment because Olivia is waking up at 10pm and for the life of me I can't get her to settle before 3am even with Dave's help. Usually she will fall straight to sleep as soon as she's in Dave's arms but it just isn't helping. All this has happened after spending Thursday to Saturday at Dave's family. I chucked a tantum at the IL's and now they all think I have PND because I hadn't had a more than 2 hours of sleep at a time for a week, was completely and utterly exhausted when our dogs covered the lounge room with mud so I then had another job to do and so I burst into tears wouldn't talk to anyone for a while. How do you tell the difference between having PND and just being exhausted?

Sorry for the selfish post but I'l be back soon to catch up on personals.

Awww :hug: Dan, must be something in the air. Our babies are all conspiring against us at the moment. I think you should do what Im doing today and just sit on the couch all day!

Dan-There are quite destinct differences. In most PND cases, you don't see the funny side of anything, you can't "enjoy" your baby much, you have self harm/harm to the baby thoughts, etc. No, not in all cases, but I'm just telling you what I know. By the sounds of things, you're exhausted, but reevaluate and keep talking to your GP. Everything can spiral VERY quickly as I found out, so it's something you want to get on top of, pronto.

Haha Tan, even I was a bit confused when I looked at this page and seen me name change and a new AV!! How exciting, I only e-mailed it all through yesterday - how speedy!! You can call me whatever - Michelle, shell, I don't mind! Tour DH sounds like mine, all the housework is mine cause I am home and he works all day - huh, I am hardly a lady of leaisure!! I wish!!

Dan, I hope Olivia settles down for you. Sleep deprivation is torture, I dont think there is anything worse.

Anyway, poor effort at personals, but I betta go and do a load of washing!!

*Michelle*

Ooooh Shell we look alike lol

We do Ash lol!! I didn't even notice till u said!!

Danni- good luck at sleep school. I really hope you get some answers this time, not to mention some much needed sleep!

Dan - I don't think I ever "graduated" to PND when Izzy was at her worst with reflux/intolerances issues, but I was incredibly depressed (got an off the charts score on that multi choice PND test CHN give you). I was incredibly miserable, exhausted, very teary (or angry or both), helpless, hopeless and just basically over it all. I didn't have any of those feelings of self harm or harm towards Iz, and I was pretty confident in myself that the reason I was feeling so crap was because of the specific situation - how much pain Izzy was in and how useless I was feeling at dealing with it and making it better for her. Life started getting a lot rosier when her life got rosier. I'm now ashamed to admit that I was one of those women that was scornful of SAHM that complained about being exhausted, overworked, unable to get things done etc. Now that I am one I realise it is the hardest, most emotionally drainining job I've ever done (and I've had more than my share of jobs with 90+ hour weeks). Life (although incredibly rewarding at times) seems to be just one big long struggle to achieve the simplest thing. Can't tell you how thrilled I was yesterday when I finally managed to make a cake using the food processor I got for my birthday last year. Ridiculous but true. Anyway, enough crap about me. You. You haven't given any indications in the past that you're not coping (any more than the rest of us don't on any given day) but only you know if that's because you were holding it in or not. I'd put money on you just being completely exhausted (and hey, who wouldn't spit it after a few days with the IL's???) but like Ash said, if you're at all concerned or you have any feelings of self harm or of harming Livvy, then please go and see someone. If its any consolation, I've been going through the same sort of thing with Izzy at nights off and on for a few weeks now (little minx is actually holding her arms out for me to cuddle her now when she's in her daddy's arms!!), and it so far seems to have started a bit before a tooth has come through, and then gone away and come back after its been through for a couple of days. Its not for nothing sleep deprivation is used as a form of torture. Can you kick Dave out of bed for the next few nights to deal with Livvy when she's grumbling? I know he has to work during the day, but a few nights in a row won't kill him and it will do you the world of good.

Michelle - yay on your upgrade but poo on your DH. I think its a genetic thing that they just don't get how much we do during the day, and how their day shouldn't end just because they leave the office/workshop/farm yard or whatever. Geez. Wouldn't it be nice if we could work a 10 hour day, 5 days a week and that's it???

Kirsten - sounds like your photo shoots went really well. I have wondered in the past what sort of photos you would have of a newborn - one of the reasons I haven't had any professional ones of Izzy done yet (oh yeah, that and the $1,000 fee!!). Would love to pick your brain about MCNs. Will PM you if that's ok. As for Mia not rolling over yet, I really wouldn't be worried about it. Izzy has only just over the last week got the hang of it, and she's a few weeks older than Mia. Given they're both reflux girls I've been told its really common, and that its not a concern if they even completely miss the whole tummy time/rolling stage. In fact, I wish Izzy had - she now will roll over back to front in her cot and can't get herself back. She managed to also spin 180 degrees and roll the other day so she had her head under her sheets. It was very scary to find her that way. Needless to say, grobags have come out for day naps too now.

Tan - I reckon you've definitely got a bit of sleep deprivation caught up with you with that little girl of yours keeping you up late. I'm not sure if its better to never have them sleep through or to have them sleep through (and get used to it), only to stop doing it? Try to take it easy for a few days and see if you can get a bit of energy back. I have couch days too (although I get to blame them on being pregnant :p) and I think they're great - lazy days at home playing with Izzy will make you feel like a new mummy again. Good luck with your business venture. I"m sure you'll do brilliantly - hey, you might end up one of those multi-millionaire mummies we see on Oprah one day with their "now why didn't I think of that" inventions!!

Kelly - great idea to stay at your mum's and catch up on sleep. We're off to a wedding on Sunday and my mum is staying overnight (first time ever) and given her bedroom and Izzy's are both upstairs, and ours is downstairs, I'm looking forward to the same thing!!

Ok. After that epic novel I hope I've covered everyone. Things here are up and down. Izzy will be either absolutely brilliant - a happy and content little bub or she's a whingy, clingy monster that sends me a bit nuts I think. I know its because her teeth are giving her hell (shes had the brightest red cheeks for two days now so I'm wondering if there's another one coming through), but sometimes I really do feel the need to put her on her mat and just walk away for a minute. I know its absolutely unforgiveable, but there are times I can understand why mums lose it with their bubs. She's hardly eating anything, lucky to get 500mls down her in a day, sleeping badly at nights, and only sleeping during the day if I rock her to sleep in my arms first. I've reached the point where I desperately need some time on my own to do ANYTHING but I just don't feel I can leave her with anyone the way she's behaving at the moment (bit worried about Mum having her for hours on her own on the weekend). Oh well. That's the end of my whinge. Maybe we should all pick up our bags and head out the front door, telling our sometimes unthoughtful, selfish, unreasonable men that the kids are all theirs for the day, as well as the housework, washing, cooking and shopping. Ooooh, now wouldn't that be fun ?!?!?!

Happy sleeping bubbies. All your mummies love you lots but are really tired and need a night off.

Just have to say I am loving all the new names!! TANSTAR - very nice!!!

I'm going to change my avi soon anyways Michelle so we won't be twins for too long hehe

Hi everyone, sorry I am not up to personals, I am absolutely exhausted!!! Noah is up every 2 hours at night and in the day he is so demanding that I don't get much time to myself. I did manage to get a 5 hour stretch out of him after I gave him a small suckle after having a couple of beers. I don't see myself doing that every night just to get him to sleep. I would not have done it had it not been for the fact I could not resettle him without the suckle.

Little Mr is not so little any more, Noah is now 8kg and 70cm long, so tall and skinny, like his dad. He has finally started to roll and is starting to do a little bit of sitting if I place him in the position. Do the others with sitters have to do that too or do they put themselves into the sitting position?

Well that was the end of Noah's tether, all attention must be paid to him at all times....

Hope everyone else is doing great!

Blake is exactly the same at the moment Sarah - can't leave him to his own devices for more than 2 minutes, and waking every 2-3 hours. I'm exhausted also, I'm going to nap now while he is asleep. Hopefully he lasts longer than 20 mins :(

Hello ladies,

It seems that everyone is going through the wars at the moment. I hope all of the May bubba's start being nice to their mums soon!

Sarah - that's great to hear that your little man is so big. I hope he starts sleeping more soon so that you can get a rest.

Danni - I hope sleep school helps you with Mason and you get some support

Michelle - housework just never ends does it! I think if our Dh's had to do what we did everyday they would go insane.

Dan - sleep deprivation is awful. Don't worry about your inlaws, people quickly forget what it is like to have no sleep, look after a baby, do all the housework, cook dinner etc etc and do it with a smile, I think not. We need those tantrums just to make us sane. I have had some beauties. I hope you get some sleep soon and feel free to blow off some steam here whenever you feel like it.

Kristen - congrats on officially kickstarting your business. It sounds like you are doing really well. It must give you a great feeling of achievement.

Tan - don't feel guilty about getting DH to help, it's their baby too and we need help every now and then. What is your business idea? Working from home would be great. I hope you get some more zzz's soon

Lulu - teething is just the pits isn't it. It just sends our wonderful bubba's out the window and in comes the fussing, angry new bubba. Hopefully Izzy will be an angel while you are going out. I usually find that Julian is completely different with my mum even if I've had a bad day with him. Enjoy the time out as it doesn't come by too often these days and I'm sure Izzy will be in good hands!

I am feeling quite depressed even though I really have no reason to be. Julian is sleeping through the night and even though his day sleeps are hit and miss I can deal with that. My issue is that I feel like something has happened to me, someone has come by and stolen me. I don't feel like me if that makes any sense. Everything I had to identify myself is gone. I feel like I don't have anything that I do for myself. It's funny some weeks I will get some time for myself but that's not the issue. I think it is because i don't have any goals. That it is the same routine day in day out. The weekend comes and nothing changes, the same again. Where have I gone? I've read about this happening in books to women but never thought I would feel like this. I feel absolutely terrible about it because I love Julian so much. But I wonder maybe motherhood wasn't really for me which is crazy because I've always wanted kids. I'm sorry to rave on about this stuff when you guys are going through more difficult times than me. I just had to get it off my chest. The guilt that comes with it is awful. What can I do to stop feeling this way?

One more thing - Julian is in the bottom 5-10% in weight and head circumference. So I am worried about that. He is 6.7 kilos. I'm going to take him to the pead. He is guzzling the solids now. I was giving him 4 tablespoons and then he wanted more. I checked with the clinic and they said he will tell me when he is full. Today he had 7 tablespoons of apple and pear with rice cereal as well as his normal breast feed. He looked content after this. Is anyone else finding this?

Thanks ladies and I really hope the sleep fairy pays you a visit soon.

Just a quick one here because I need to go to bed early in preparation for the 11-2 wake up call - :rolleyes: but just wanted to say Jan, you have no reason to feel guilty for feeling like this hun. Im exactly the same and have really good days then some really bad days too. I sit here and look at her and think about how much I absolutely adore and love her, but think -is this it? Is this what I do now? I get really down as well, to the point where I wonder about PND but Im sure its tiredness plus boredom. Have you got a hobby you could do - Im painting (still) canvases for Izzys room - finished 2 1 to go and thats partly the reason Im going start doing a little work from home! I promise I will tell all soon -I just dont feel comfortable telling all in case I dont do it and then feel like an idiot.

As far as charts go hun- has he been steadily gaining weight with no losses? Remember the charts are old, US(I think) and based on FF babies - who are generally heavier than b'fed babies - so I wouldnt stress too much unless you feel he isnt gaining as he should be. Remember too that they make the hugest gains in the first 6 months and then it starts to even out. Take him to the paed but try not to worry too much. (easy to say I know) :hug:

Kristen and other Melbournites! Are we still on for Friday at Williamstown?? I hope so- Id love to get out and see you guys!

Yes - ahh sorry I got sidetracked and never came back for personals! Naughty me! LOL

Yep - I'm still meeting you on Friday even if no one else is coming Tan!! :D Looks like it's going to be a GORGEOUS day too!

Can anyone who is also coming on Friday let me know ASAP? Otherwise if it's just Tan and I we can organise things between us by email Tan?

Thanks Tan. I really appreciate what you said. I'm trying to think of something I can do but not having much luck. I'm thinking of starting an exercise class to have something for me and to look forward to but have trouble working out when to do it or if it will help. Your painting sounds great, it must be a fantastic outlet. You wouldn't be an idiot if your idea didn't work out and I'm sure it would :)