TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ February 08

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I have so got to fill you all in on this appointment I just had. Got to go now because we are celebrating Chinese New Year which is tonight... but i ll be back when I get home

Hi Girls,

This is my first time on the site, I am a newbie! Can someone please help me with all these abbreviations?? AF, HPT, DF????

Anyway I had a miscarriage on Nov 25 2007 at approx 6 weeks and have been TTC since then. Xmas Day sucked as I got my period, as did my birthday! The hardest part however was not even 2 weeks after my miscarriage my best friend tells me she is pregnant. Although I am VERY EXCITED for her it upsets me as we had always joked around that we would be pregnant together. I know this can still happen but I just would have liked to already still be pregnant (as I am sure you all know what I mean!)

This month we bought a ovulation test kit and now are starting our 2 week wait. It's hell to go through but I feel better knowing there are people here who know exactly how I feel! Will keep you all posted!

Don't worry about the abbreviations, I finally found a post that explained it all!

hi berecca! welcome to belly belly!
so sorry for your loss, all of here have been thru it and sadly know all too well what you are going thru.
glad you found the abbrev thread, I had no idea about any of it when I first came on here.
it can be so hard when it seems like everyone around you is pg or has babies, I am still trying to cope with that, not fun.
i am going to try opks this month too! good luck ttc, we will get there!

hello everyone else, sorry no personals atm, just finished work, and have to go to bed, gotta be in town for stupid induction training for work tomorrow morning- early!
got some earlt bding in, I would so love to conceive a girl.
good luck to all.
xxxx

berecca623.. WELCOME.... WELCOME..... WELCOME..... I m glad you have found us but wish you didnt have to. Sorry for your loss, but welcome.

Goodness its going to feel like quiting cold turkey..... 3 days without catching up. :( I take my lap top to all meetings but this motel doesnt have internet....:angry:

I m a bit ummmm chirpy at the moment. I went to see this new lady for accupunture. I kept reading on here, on another thread, that there are a lot of people who swear by accupunture. So there just happened to be one that DH had been to before, next to our hair dressers so last week when we got our hair cuts we went next door and booked an appointment for both of us. Well today was the day. We both went in there, started chatting to her. It turns out she is a qualified midwife who now specializes in Chinese remidies.... herbs and all that. Balanced chee.... etc etc. Anyway she picked me straight away. worked me out and found various internal issues which she addressed straight away. She also knew the FS when i had an IVF cycle..... He s a amaizing brain but a (insert really bad swear word here) doctor. .... Anyway. we talked about everything from a health point of view I was given a pressure point massage and then the NEEDLES...... now you all know me now and know that NEEDLES... ahhhhhhhh I HATE THEM. But I layed there and in they all went into my back. We talked about everything from Coffee to salads everything was a holeistic approach. Mental attitude being one of the most important. As she explained it. If you are eating salad constantly and you go to make another salad and you just feel inside yourself.... another salad.... wish i could have a KFC hit...... She said... go and have the KFC hit. It will be now worse for you than having the salad and feeling really down about having another salad. Then the magic words for me. Have tea whenever I can. But if i go to have a tea but sooooo badly wish it was coffee... just have the coffee, mentally it is better than the constant down feeling about not being able to have what you really like OCASSIONALLY. We talked about cycles etc and she told me that there are only really 2 times that I need to have accupunture. Once when I m "o" and then again 7 or 8 days later.... for the possibility of it sticking. I am now on herbs....more..... when i get the accupunture next week I swap herbs..... there are different ones for different times in a cycle. Ohhhh and the great news...... I M NOT OLD. One thing my FS really belted me about was my age...... I m 38 and he made me feel like i was trying to have a baby at 60. Apparently the age issue varies depending on whether it is your first child or not. Apparently age is only a tiny issue at 38 if you havent had any children. I told her that this next baby would be child number 5. Two that survived and 2 that did not. Anyway because of the first 2 i m not classed as that old because I have been full term twice. Yeah i know i m pretty much all over the place with this post..... I m remembering more as I go along......LOL... and I m a bit chirpy.... must be the balanced chee :dance:

Anyway after it was all done I got up and knew I had found the right person. When I saw the FS the first time... I knew he was the wrong person for us but I was scared and unsure about everything. When i saw another natruapath again I was unsure so I decided she wasnt for us. I then tried distance with online..... But again it didnt feel right.... This one does. I feel good about her and I feel that this is all going to work.

Your probably reading this thinking.... goodness did AngelBabies smoke some of those herbs and if so what are they and why isnt she sharing.......;)

ohhh one quick thing..... there is a theory i thought I would share with you. The health of your baby depend on the health of the sperm and the health of the egg at time of conception. So if the mothers or fathers health is low... Including the mental health... ie positive instead of stressed... if it is low then it effects the babies health. This theory pushes for a positive frame of mind and good health at conception. Now if i look at that, then dh sperm were still unhealthy at time of our last conception because they live for 72 days and 72 days before conception.... well unhealty lifestyle for us both was the norm.

Well I ve dribbled on enough .... thats me done for today..... I ll catch up with your all again in 3 days.....

PS at this rate I should be "o" around valentines day.... Ohhh and the other thought is that if you bd before "o" then there is a higher chance of a girl. Ohhh goodness i m just full of "theorys" tonight arent i.... OK going now

Did I say AF is here with a vengeance???? Well, lets see...
Last night I bled so heavy in my sleep that I had to change the sheet this morning (yes, it soaked through pad, underwear and towel on the bed). this had better be one HECK of a cleaning out of my system!

Angel Babies: So glad you're feeling "chirpy". I've never heard of men taking their bbt. What is a man's chart supposed to look like and does their sperm production vary in a predictable way over time? I think this is facinating. BTW, I'm 3 years older than my hubby, too.
Happy Chinese New Year and good luck with your trip.

ll80: too bad about your car trouble. take your iron pills!

berecca623: so sorry for your loss and welcome here. I'll keep you in my prayers (maybe you'll see a BFP!). It's doubly hard for you with your friend being pregnant, but you sound like you have a good attitude.

:hello: Berrecca and Amanda-so sorry for your losses, you've found the right place for TLC and some venting if you need it. The ladies here are amazing! Good luck with your journey, hope it is a short one.

Angel Babies- Good luck with everything- sounds like an eventful (and very healthy) few weeks ahead of you! So lovely to hear you being so chirpy :dance: Have a good trip!

Tempus- Hope af has eased up, and that everything is springcleaned for TTC :crossfingers:

Laura- take your iron- don't be gettin' all down now! Remember that move would have taken a lot out of you, look after yourself x

Well, I've had a good week at work so far- the interfering old busy body who wants my job did a MAJOR faux pas!!:clap: Haha am so gleeful as she got rollicked by the hesdteacher and has to grovel to three departments (including mine!!) teehee...:dance:
Also, we have a teacher training day on Friday and although I'm running one of the workshops it's actually a good (fun) day. And we always go to the pub afterwards- a few drinks and a game of pool or two (I'm a demon!) to end the half-term. (Yay, a week off). DH and I will be doing some decorating next week-much more preferable to planning lessons or marking bleurgh!! Plenty of time to sleep in and get jiggy ( at any time of day!)
Not feeling too hopeful about this TWW- still no symptoms although DH says it's way too early.
:crossfingers::crossfingers::crossfingers:

Afternoon ladies...well I got myself all excited on Saturday night I wiped and saw pink...nothing else and again on Sunday night. Yesterday I had some pain (it actually got pretty bad) I thought for sure AF was coming...nothing not a drop. Today I am almost doubled over from pain and pressure, but no AF, so I call Doctor he has prescribed me 10 days of Provera. Has anyone taken it and how do you feel about it?

I am new to this thread and I just need to vent a bit. I had a miscarriage 3 weeks ago at 5 weeks and last night my mother in law who I don't really get on with rings up all excited because my husbands cousin is having twins. That just made me feel bad because I wasn't really happy for her. It also doesn't help that we decided to start trying again straight away and I am in that part of the cycle where it is am I or aren't I. Was that an implantation dip or just a drop in temperature because the night was cooler. I hate this process.

Hi, it's been a while since i posted but i just need to vent with people who understand. One of my clients (i'm a day carer), informed me yesterday that she's about 7 weeks pregnant, she has a 7yo, 5yo and 8mth old, dad has six children to two different women and is also dad to the 8mth old. No, that's not the problem, it makes me feel annoyed that I know that she didn't really want to be pregnant just now, was thinking of making the 8mth old the last one, even said next year would be better. So i spent most of yesterday and last night feeling sorry for myself, annoyed that she has fallen pg so easily, and I have such a hard time falling pg, probably hormonal, AF is due tomorrow. DH understands how i feel, but is not a lot of support

Hi girls, I haven't been on here for a few weeks - just wanted to pop in and
Congratulate Kerry & Sami on their BFP's!!! WOO HOO!!!!

Great to see some positive news in here :)

Hi Girls,
Wow, I only missed a day or two and there have been so many changes, even a new link to this thread!


Berecca, Amanda and Hopingsoon, it is nice to meet you all. I hope that you each have a short stay here. Also Hi MissBelinda, I dont think that I have met you before.
Berecca, Mollycat and Hoping soon, I soooo know what you mean about the friend/ relative/ client/ random- woman- I've -never- met announcing their pregnancy. It is just horrible to be reminded in this way. I find myself actually disliking pregnant wome in the street, JUST because they are pregnant, but then have to have a reality check and remind myself that that might be me one day...

Hopingsoon, MILs (Mother in laws) can be a total pain. Before I was pg last time, my MIL kept harping on about when we were going to have kids. At least now she wont bug us about it anymore. Did your in laws know of your pregnancy?

BettyB- Good luck for the 14th. I will be thinking of you (albeit at the wrong time, 'cos I am in the Uk and will be asleep when you go for your appt.)

AngelB- Calm down girl!!!! I read your last thread at top speed, because that's how I imagined you would say it!! - Only joking, it is really cool to see you so upbeat and I really pleased that you have found someone right for you and DH. I like the idea of being happy/ not stressed at the time of coonception and not being too strict with diets etc. (pass the chocolate) I would offer to bake, but if you ever tasted my baking, you'd beg me not to!

Laura, did you mention that you have hypothyroid? Is that why you are tired? Sorry if I got it wrong, I might have mixed you up with someone else.

As for AF, she is still with me, along with her friends aunt crampy and uncle back pain. I have run out of tampons now, I keep forgetting to buy them after getting out of the habit for a few months.
Smilinatu- I had a similar thing b4 AF came this time. Cramps, spotting... Don't worry she is on her way!
Tempus, i hope that AF calms down a bit soon, she sounds a bit of a nightmare.

I went to the theatre last night and had a great time. Also had 2 glasses of red wine (yum). Measured my temp this morning and have dropped my temp by .2 degrees compared to yesterday. (actually fell asleep again with the thermometer in my mouth, lucky it isnt mercury!) The rest of my exciting week will be haircut tomorrow (cant wait) and then a comedy evening at a friends' local community centre and then a visit from an old friend at the weekend. Phew! Hardly any time to go to work!

oops, I have waffled on laods today. Didnt mean to, sorry.
I nearly forgot to say good luck to the girls on their 2ww, Nickster and Hopingsoon and anyone else???
Right, I really will go now.
Byeee!

Smilinatu - when I was pg I had awful pains and the doc told me that it was implantation as I never get AF pain. Perhaps this is happening for you too??

Hopingsoon - I totally understand about MIL's being mega cows, my one is the same! Some people are so self-obsessed that they don't think before they talk and don't even consider how much they may be hurting your feelings when they tell you about a pregnancy soon after you m/c. My best friend was really hesitant but had to tell me, I would have been upset if she didn't. However Xmas day when AF arrived I had a mini breakdown, could not handle the fact. That and of course the sight of the blood brought back what had happened a month earlier. It was my sister that really took the cake for nasty comments. When I told her why I was upset her reply was "You get your period every month so you better get used to it!" *****!! She's younger, fell in the first month she tried and is so self absorbed that she doesn't think anything is bad unless it is happening to her. If it has happened to her she just thinks that if she got through it everyone else should just shut up and put up (even if she was the worlds biggest whinger / sook / whatever when it was happening!) Geez that vent felt good!!!!

Hopingsoon - I read somewhere that the next couple of months after m/c the OPK's and BBT methods, as well as the Billings Method, basically don't work as your hormones can be a tad screwed up. For me this was very true, I had o cm 3 times in the first and secomd months after m/c!

Canary - I am also entering my TWW, I was O on Monday, or so the OPK tells me! I'm not sure if I should test a couple of days earlier or if I should wait to see if AF appears or not. I am really regular, O'd on day 14, so who knows what I should do????

Welcome newbies, hope your stay here is a short one and has a happy ending.

Wow - so hard to keep up in here. Our home computer got zapped so am restricted to my work one for the time being so therefore don't get much time.

Am in the tww now - first 3 days was awful but now I know that whatever will be will be. Ob said if I'm not pg by easter he would recommend that I try clomid to give my hormones a good kick into gear. He's a very good doctor so i trust that he will recommend the right thing for me.

No real pg symptoms yet, boobs feel slightly more tender but they usually do after O anyway so trying not to read into that one. Also though I had that funny metallic taste too but again trying not to read into things (probably too early yet anyway). Felt a little upset in my tummy around O time which I got last time I fel pg - again I am probably just reading into things. just trying to eat and exercise well and focus on our holiday next month:)

I can relate to the comments about finding out other people are pregnant - although you are really happy for them you can't help but feel so empty yourself. It's just not fair!

Hi all,
Canary -- I only suspect I may have it because of some tests I had when I first found out I was pg, I may not but would explain alot about my health, I need to go and see my doctor, but will have to wait a few weeks until we get a new car.

Oh and to everyone else, I am taking my iron pills, I good girl I am, even remember to take them twice a day, just don't feel like they are doing anything, I've also been trying to eat alot of meat and pate, my dad reckons he is going to cook me up some livers, yuukkkkkk, but i'll swallow without tasting if it will make me feel better.

Angel B- so good that you found a good acupuncturist -- I hope that it works for you.

Welcome berecca623 I hope that your TTC journey is a short one.

mollycat I know how you feel. Just gets you a bit down when you hear things like that.

Well I am feeling like I might get AF soon today, bit of a low down heavy feeling like a usually get when af is on her way.
I do hope it's not as bad as you though tempus, I really hate it when you have to change the sheets.

Good luck to everyone on the TWW. Fingers crossed for you all, but not legs :)

..Laura

Hi all. I have been away with work the last couple of days, and I have missed so much! Welcome and hello to the new people - Berecca, Amanda and Hopingsoon. I hope you find support and comfort amongst this thread, I know I have.

I had a meeting yesterday and saw all my work colleagues for the first time since we lost Nathaniel (I work in Melbourne on my own). I was a bit worried about it, but thankfully no one really said anthing and when they did it was all very nice.

AF is definitely gone - so will now see what happens. Fingers crossed I actually am back on track with my cycle.

And as for pregnant women - DH just told me a colleague announced to him today that she is preg - so another one to add to the list. Pregnant women are popping out of the woodwork or so it seems.

Everyone sounds like they are doing well at the moment. Good luck to those in the 2WW.

First welcome to the newbies, AManda, berecca, and hopingsoon. I am so sorry that you have to be here.

Angel - I gotta tell you that you always make me laugh. I am glad that accupuncture went so well. I was thinking about the good vibes thing and think you are so right. I am turning over a new leaf and am going to try to be positive.

TM - Sorry about AF. hope she leaves soon.

Nickster - Yeah for the busy body messing up. well that sounded terrible, but oh well. Think good thoughts. No AF, No AF, No AF

Smilan - hope you feel better

hoping soon - I agree whole heartedly. this process stinks!!!

Molly - I am so sorry about your client. I work with kids (in special ed) and also run into the parent who unexpectantly had a child and doesn't appreciate it. It always gets me.

Canary - I hate uncle back pain. he has reared his ugly head a lot since my m/c. doesn't he know when he is not wanted. also buying tampons does stink.

ll80 - hope you are feeling better. is there iron in chocolate cake? wouldn't that be great.

Katie - I am glad your meeting went ok.

hope everyone I missed is doing well.

I got all my test results back and we are all good. I can't believe how many times I have been poked and prodded in the past 2-3 months. But no more tests. we officially have no answers (which isn't necessarily bad just frustrating.) I will be O'ing soon so DH is in for some bding.

Barbara

thought i had lost you all, sorry i have not had time to read all, welcome to all the new ladies, hope your TTC is short, we need more BFP.MY DH is on holiday , great we can spend some time together, we have both been felling a bit distant, will be great to have time, and all the children went back to school yesterday , great.I O afew days ago (so if nothing comes out , can anything go up)dont know), is now 106 day since D&C and is only one week till my app ,i am so hoping for some good new on valentines day.

I started the Provera last night...still nothing but pain and lots of it! It almost feels like labor pains...

Hi

Yes my mil knew we were pregnant before we had the miscarriage but she didn't want us to be yet and wasn't very happy when we told her so I don't think she really cares that we are not anymore. We have one year old twins so she thinks we should wait longer. My af is due in the next couple of days if it was to come on time but I think it will be late because of the miscarriage which is just going to make this harder.

So, yesterday started out just like a normal day but by the end turned into total cr@p. FIL, who's been battling cancer but seemed to be on the mend took a sudden downturn last night and long story short is now on hospice care and doing very poorly. DH was at the hospital all day with him, he got Last Rites and now we're just WAITING. I do hospice care part time, so I know exactly what's going on with him. Please send us some positive vibes...

Tempus :grouphug: and lots of positive vibes. I send my every positive thought to you all at this difficult time.:pray:

Bettyboop - hope you get some good care and attention on the 14th - good luck & good news would be best valentines prezzie ever!

Hopingsoon: hope af comes on time. Hugs to you too, am sorry that you haven't had as much support as you deserve from mil.

smilinatu - hope af arrives soon for you too and hope pain goes away. Hugs.

Anthonysmom: I know what you mean about 'no answers' being a relief and frustrating at the same time.

Our computer got zapped in a storm and we're waiting for it to be fixed so I only have limited access at the moment. Will try to keep up and not get too far behind with all of the happenings.

Howdy all,

AJC my DP's two computers got zapped a while back he is still waiting for them over a month on, he's suffering withdrawals, hehe.

Tempus, praying for you at this difficult time, I hope all goes as well as can be...

smilenatu I hope you feel better soon and that everything sorts it self out.

I'm a bit down today, it's a month since the m/c. Getting jittery about starting to TTC, the fear that I could have to go through all of this again is at times terrifying.

..Laura

ll80 - I so know how you are feeling. My 1 month since m/c was Xmas Day (which I incidentally got AF) and I had a bad day. Made it worse that everyone else around me was celebrating. And although I love my nephew was hard seeing him!

Hi ladies - looks like I'm another newbie. I'm so glad I found you guys but sorry that it has to be for this circumstance. I have read all your stories - don't think I could manage personals yet but will in time - and I feel like you'll all understand where I'm at because I get where ur all at in general.

Just a bit about me - I met DH almost 4 years ago and were married 18 mths later. We TTC from 2 mths prior to marrying and DS was born 10 mths after we married. That was an amazing ride for 2 and half years. Since then, it all changed and we have been facing one of life's challenges. We started TTC #2 2 mths after DS was born and did so after 2 mths - we thought we were incredibly clever and incredibly fertile and blitzing thru!! We had an early u/s cos my AFs were not back to norm and found no heart beat. Our sadness was quickly outweighed by the fact that there were 2 sacks - one with nothing in it and the other with 2 foetal poles - we could have potentially had triplets naturally!!! So we thought maybe it was for the best because 3 within 13 mths might have been crazy and these things happen for a reason, blah blah and once we could, we just got back BDing. We conceived again after 2 mths and thought "right! this is the one that was meant to be" and had an early u/s again cos of our previous experience. Nothing prepared me for a repeat no heartbeat & empty sack. This 2nd m/c really hit me hard - it wasn't meant to happen again the OBGYN had said (we found out later that 1st m/c due to chromosomes and 2nd due to major structural probs so no continuity b/w the 2 m/c's). So again once we could we started BDing and have been ever since. Month after month goes by - I'm trying to relax, relllaaaxxxxxx, but by December I decided I wanted to take matters into my own hands. What if there now was something wrong with me? So since then I have had BTs from GP (just normal thyroid, liver, etc kinda stuff - all fine except borderline low thyroid that needs to be retested), doing OPKs, started taking Blackmore's conceive well tablets, started charting BBTs, CM, (the stuff that I never thought I would have to do),started seeing a naturopath who gave me potions, now waiting for progesterone BT and booked into seeing an acupuncturist next week - hello "angelbabies", was interested in what you said earlier. If I didn't have my DS I would have truly gone over the edge and not just teetering like I am now so I really feel for the ladies who are TTC #1. My girlfriend had 14 attempts at IVF before she finally delivered her healthy baby daughter last November. I think she is amazing to have that much courage. Thinking about it, I think I have put so much pressure on myself cos I am part of a mother's group and I was the first one who was ready to TTC #2 and now each one is getting pg again - 6 of them to date - and I think it should have been me. It's hard not to think about it cos I see the mothers all the time - they are my friends - and it means I am reminded all the time.

Anyway, I think I have vented enough. Just wanted you to know who I was and I would like to offer my support in any way I can. I will equally be reading with interest to learn from you all.
Welcome BFPs all around - my shout!! lol

hi plc105,
so sorry for your losses, I am glad you have joined us, well...not glad but we can all support eachother hey?
my dp and I tried for 18mths before conceiving our angel, it has now been another 5 mths and......nothing.
keep telling myself, chin up.......but it just seems so hard sometimes.
sorry dont want to bring you down.
xxx

Hi, thought i might join in here seeing as we are ttc #3 and have had 3 previous miscarriages. We've been trying for 7 months now and had a m/c last October. The other 2 m/c were before we had #2...

Thanks for the welcome StarrySky - I think we all get it so you couldn't possibly be bringing me down.
It is so hard and I think it's important to not always put on a brave face too and just let urself feel the pain. On Saturday, I was getting a bit concerned about getting somewhere on time and felt DH wasn't understanding the urgency (nothing major) and all of a sudden I was crying and howling and curled up on the bed and couldn't stop. I just kept feeling sorry for myself and angry, frustrated and so completely alone with the whole TTC situation. DH is a support but doesn't seem to feel the pain as I do - he was more confused "you were ok and then ur a howling mess - what happened?" I think it was just all pent up inside. Now I could say to you StarrySky that I don't want to bring you down :) but I think my Saturday experience is not unusual to any of us.

StarrySky and Antheia - sorry for ur losses, wishing u and all the girls lots of :bluedust:

Thanks ladies for your well wishes...I feel so yucky today.

Thanks for your prayers and well wishes, ladies. FIL is still with us as of 11am Pennsylvania time. He's groggy and his vital signs are bad. We're still waiting and the strain is awful. We went through this in '94 when my dad died and I know this is just a normal part of human existance, but hurts so much.

ll80: can relate to that jittery feeling. i wonder if you ever completely stop feeling that way

plc1805: welcome, and I"m so sorry for your pain and feel free to vent here. I'll keep you in my prayers.
IKWYM about getting preg easily. in my case I needed clomid for preg #1, but the last six happened easily and naturally. Then I lost 4 of them to MC. And you always think the first mc is a fluke, because usually it is. but definitely get that thyroid checked out and maybe look into having your antithyroid antibodies checked, too.

Antheia: I'm sorry for your losses. I know how hard it is. I'll keep you in my prayers.

smilanatu: sending cyberhug.

I am sorry to hear about your fil. I know what you are going through because I went through it with both of my grandparents not that long ago. Nothing anyone can say will help but we are thinking of you.

I was a bit down yesterday. I don't know if it was because I convinced myself that I am not pregnant this month or if it was that I generally always get emotional just before my af. Af is actually due today if my cycle was going to be on time but because it is a month after miscarriage Ithink it is going to be late which means I just get to keep wondering for a few more days.

:dance:Hello Everyone

Welcome to all our new friends.. It seems forever since i have been here and i know that there is so mcuh to catch up on so there will be no personals today.
So much has been happening..i have been working heaps and planning our belated honeymoon. We were goign to Melbourne but we have now decided to have a quiet and relaxing 4 nights in Merimbula. I have got a great deal in a great motel and we are both looking forward to being away on our own and spending some time alone. We of course will be oing the week before we go away but i am sure there will be plenty of bding anyway.:dance: Well DH has become very interested in trying for another baby as he was a little unsure about it after what we had been through which was very disappointing but the news of his interest is great:clap:. I have been visiting the FF site and he is now asking things such as when are we oing? When is the best time for bding? etc
When bding is it better to when your oing? As i am unsure as to what they mean when it states the best fertile days. This whole process confuses me!!!!!!!!!! By the way anyone got any special things to help you conceive girls as like i have stated before i don't think i can carry boys so if i can gain information in regards to conceiving girls i think it might give us a better chance of everything happening for us and seeing a BFP>>>>
Sending everyone stickyvibesboy:::stickyvibesgirl:
Trac

hiya trac73- there is a whole thread dedicated to trying for boys or girls in the ttc section I think, great tips and tricks, from what anecdotal evidence I have gathered it seems to work!

welcome antheia- seen you around the traps a bit, so sorry for your previous losses and wishing you the best of luck with ttc this one, sending you heaps of babydust and extra sticky vibes!
just love your avie, I want to know where mine is too!

tempus- so sorry for your fil, and you and your family, sending you lots of positive energy and hoping for the best for everyone concerned- I meant to post earlier but it slipped my mind sorry, lots of hugs.

hopingsoon- hope u are feeling better today, not that theres anything wrong with having a down day, a month after my mc I was still doing pg tests to see where my hormone levels were, I think I was still getting faint positives then. but hey.....you never know.....best of luck!

smilantu- why you feel so yucky? big hugs luv, I wish (as one lady so perfectly put it) that I had the magic words to make everyone who "walks in these shoes" (wink, wink angelbabies) feel better.
but to be honest I cant think of anything but the usual plattitudes which just feel so meaningless after youve heard them a hundred times. I hope you feel better soon, big hugs for you.

plc1805- oh my, you sound like me, perfectly normal and then a total "head case "(as dp says it!)
i have been up and down so much in the last 6 months.

well, today at work I was having a chat with one of the ladies I work with and she told me about how her daughter is terrified of becoming preg, as twins run in their family, she told me that her son would have had a twin but she lost him at 4 mths but carried the other to full term, so I then told her about my experience, and I almost broke down in tears, at work!
this is strange for me, I mean i know I dont talk about my mc much, (no one wants to hear it, I can sooo take a hint! in my real life I mean, not u guys!) but I was able to talk about it without tears about 3 days after.....I had to ring a lot of people to let them know....not nice.....anyway, just wierd.
so I am getting my hopes up again (stay down, damn you!) am sure that I o'd, and that we bd at the right time, am now needing to go to the loo alot, telling myself its nothing, ahh well, I am sure you all know what I mean....
good luck everyone, sorry if I missed you in my post, I will get to you next time!
xxxx

There is no way I m going to be able to catch up on all that..... I feel sleepy just at the thought of trying to reply to it all. arrrrgggghhhhh.

So instead I will say, welcome to all the new ladies, hope your stay here is a short one.

I ve had a very busy, very tiring few days and am looking forward to laying in my own bed with the doona over me..... nice and snuggly.

I m still positive..... just a tired positive...... its nite nite for me :asleep::bedtime:

Tempus -So sorry for you FIL, it is hard to watch and wait and know there is nothing you can do except try to make their passing as easy as possible for them.

Starrysky - I too have got my hopes up and am beating them down with a stick. I am only 6dpo and have to go to the loo heaps, tender breasts, constipation, and I feel wierd bloated in the stomach, not like when AF is coming. I keep telling myself that its because its still a short time since m/c (Nov 25) and I am just reading things into it, but it is hard to stay sensible and calm!

I realised I never shared my story with you ladies so here is a shortish version. DH and I were married in Sept 06 and went on a 6 week honeymoon in Europe. DH had been wanting to have children from about a year before the wedding but I felt that there was so much to do, so much time as we were still young, and personally I wanted to be married first (not that I am knocking anyone who chooses kids first as it could have gone that way for me too!) We got back from the honeymoon and I went off the pill the day we arrived. For 4 months no AF but nothing but BFN's. I had so many tests. B'ding started to hurt a lot and then in March 07 got the news I had pre-cancerous cells in my cervix so I had what's called a cone biopsy to remove them (they take a part of your cervix). Of ocurse being me I haemmoraghed after the op and was rushed back in, DH hadn't been informed and when I wasn't back in recovery when he expected me, and no-one could tell him where I was he panicked. Needless to say he cried when he finally got to see me. Anyway we were then told no babies until at the very least I got the all clear at 6 month checkup. That was in early Nov 07 and got the all clear which was great because nothing was certain and we may have had to wait longer, or more surgery. A week later we found out I was pregnant and felt like FINALLY something had come easy to us, we hadn't been seriously trying but in all honesty I wasn't careful as I was hopeful to get the all clear. At 6 weeks I had the m/c and was devestated. It happened the day I told my family I was pregnant. At times I kick myself for not starting our family all those years ago when my DH was pushing for it, I could already have a child now. Sometimes I think that if I could have at least one I would be able to handle it better if that was it. Then again probably not. So there it is.

Fingers crossed for a BFP next Sunday! I am testing a day early as it is the weekend, DH and I have the whole day together, unlike any other day in the week, and I can sleep in a little and still use FMU. It will also make it easier if I am going to get AF I would prefer to see the BFN instead of blood being the first sign. That's why I decided for a slightly earlier test (only 1 day though!)

Hi Girls,
Brecca, thank you for sharing your story. I don't want to put your hopes up too much, but your symptoms sound encouraging. I have my fingers crossed for a BFP from you, and of course, all of the other 2ww ladies.

Hello to the new ladies, I hope that your journey here is a short and successful one.
Tempus. I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. :hug:

Well, AF has finally left (but she did wait until the day after I bought a HUGE box of tampons) and I feel terrible. I have an awful cold and ache from my head to my toes. My BBT has gone up by a whole degree and I am feeling quite pessimistic about my chances of conception this month. :cry:

I have to go out now. I am meeting up with a friend, her husband and her 6 month old duaghter. Oh, joy, just what I need!
Better go, I'm late. Sorry to be a bit of a misery, guys, I'll try and be more chirpy next time.

Well i'm out. AF is here now :(

Thanks everybody. I just came back from the hospital and FIL is critical but stable--no worsening or improvement.
I'm only six days into this cycle, but the stress is beginning to show in my chart. My temp looks like a saw-tooth pattern. but I"ve been writing all the events of these past days right onto the chart so when I go to the FS and when I O (and I presume it will be delayed this month) I'll have a clearer picture of stress/fertility.

hopingsoon: sending encouragement vibes. have you been charting temps? that would give you a more accurate picture.

Trac73: enjoy your honeymoon. you guys really need some r&r right now.
I'm going to give you two bits of information and they might be contradictory. The best way to concieve at all is the every other day method. To concieve girls, you want to bd not too close to O because the x swimmers are slower and longer lived and the y swimmers are quicker and shorter lived.
Good luck!

Starrysky: Yeah, IKWYM. after my third mc (work found out about it) the only co-worker who said anything to me about it had had 2mc's of her own and she was really helpful. everybody else tiptoed around me like I was dynamite. I thought I would scream

berecca623: you've really been through the ringer, haven't you? but please don't berate yourself for not trying sooner. Not only is it completely useless, how do you know you would have had a baby anyway? there's no guarantees. but i"m keeping fingers crossed for you.

Canary: sending encouragement vibes. you sound like you need it

Antheia: sorry about af