TTC after Miscarriage or Loss ~ February 08

:happyforyou::happyforyou:Oh my goodness Hoping that is terrific. sending you :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:. maybe you are starting a great trend for all of us.

Barbara

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Congratulations Hopingsoon! I wish you a very happy healthy & enjoyable 9 months (well 8 to go I guess).

Hi to everyone else & hope you have a lovely Valentines day - have a nice dinner planned for DH & just some quality time together.

Happy Birthday Kategirl! Wish they have a little cake emoticon (with a little candle on top would be even better).

Hoping Soon: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! I am soooooo happy for you. I know that you are going to have a happy and healthy 8 months.

Canary: I hope you are feeling better.

TM: I am so sorry for your lost.

Berecca623: That is wonderful you are almost there, at the end of the 2WW period. I can't wait to be in the 2WW, I think I have one more week.

Luna: How are you doing? I hope you are doing better.

Hi Angel Babies: I really enjoy your posts, like you I have quit the smokes and I have cut down on coffee, I just love coffee.

To all the other ladies Hi, hope everyone is doing well, sorry if I forgot anyone but by the time I got to Hopingsoon's awesome news I forgot everyother posts I read.

As for me I start TTC tomorrow, I am nervous (no not about doing the deed) but just about getting it right, timing, the right days, good strong swimmers, ovulating, you know the whole mechanism of everything doing it's thing, nature.

You see I am crazy.

Have a good night girls, I am off to a sushi dinner have to have it tonight because when I get preg in a few days I won't be able to eat the stuff for 9 months.

:clap::clap::clap:Hopingsoon - CONGRATS hun!! So very very pleased for you!!! :dance::dance::dance:

Sending you loads of :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:

Hi to everyone else and praying the dust settles on all of us!!!

:confetti:Hopingsoon - congratulations!!! I knew it! I could not believe that you could hold off testing as long as you did. 28 days past O with high temperatures and you still did not test??? When I read that I KNEW you are going to get :bfp:

I cannot believe how happy this makes me feel, it is silly, almost as if it was personal.

Magda, and everybody else that gave me such kind words lately, thank you so much, I am better now, and this BFP (although not mine) put me in an even better mood.

HopingSoon - congratulations on the BFP. I am so excited for you. I hope the next 8 months are uneventful and relaxing!!! It is so lovely to see someone in 'our team' get this news. It gives us all a good lift and some much needed hope.

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CONGRATULATIONS HOPING SOON!!
So very happy for you!! wishing you all the best for a totally uneventfull 9 months, sending you lots of :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl:
come on girls :whip: we can do it, soon it will be our turn!

:heartbeat: Happy Valentines day to all :heartbeat:
how romantic a valentines BFP!!

wow congrats hopingsoon
ajc when are you going to test, looking good
hi to everyone else
had app today , went well, blood test were all normal , showing that i have been 0ing that part was good, lining is thin but looking back i have always had a thin lining,2.5mm, hoping AF show in the next week or aBFP would be great, might be ashermans again , hoping not, i will have a blood test in 1 week if BFN the he will organise an op to have a lookaround asap.i was so pleased to have him on my side.

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Congratulations hopingsoon am very happy for you!!!

Well tested today even though days til AF is due, just thought it would be a good Valentine's Day present. Unfortunately it was although not losing hope as it is still too early I know!

New things today on top of all the others that give me hope. Eating dinner with mum tonight, had sweet chilli sauce in it. Normally have no problems but tonight could really taste it and was burning my mouth.

Also, and sorry for TMI, but checking for CM (I have to do internally) I felt quite swollen / spongy inside. Good signs????

Berecca: I was thinking the same as you - was feeling pg this month but was just my mind playing tricks on me BFN & spotting this morn so it's all over for this month. At first I thought I was going to get upset about it but I am ok - much to my surprise. I wasn't happy with my temps this month anyway so I would have been worried that everything was ok if I had got a BFP. One more cycle before I start clomid. I said to DH if it doesn't happen naturally maybe it's for the best and the clomid will help keep the bub snuggled in tight for 9 months this time.

Bettyboop - so glad to hear things are finally looking ok for you and the doc is on your side.

what a long TWW

Thanks everybody for your kind wishes. Funeral is Saturday. This is just one of those things you live through one day at a time.

Anthonysmom: I'm so sorry, was he really old, seeing that he was your mother's uncle? Hopefully he was peaceful. And IKWYM--you've already been through a loss and now here's another one.

hoping soon: so very, very happy for you and I'll be praying very hard. Keep us posted!

nicksterUK: sorry about BFN. Keeping fingers crossed for next month (after AF shows up...)

Magda: best of luck!

bettyboop: didn't know you had asherman's before. can they do anything for a thin lining, like some med or supplement?

the doc said it it was really bad luck to ashermans the first time but a second time would be really bad luck, still hoping that is not the problem, he said he can fix it if it not to bad.he told me there is one way of making the lining thicker is to take viagra, has anyone heard of this?

I have no idea where to start so I decided I wouldnt. It would take me so long to reply to them all and the replies would be outdated......LOL.l

Soooo I m back.... no more motels for me now for at least 6 weeks. I tried the "o" pee sticks.... kept coming up negative so I m supposidly not "o" but hubby was so good to me on Valentines day that bit of Jiggy was the call anyway :bd:

Temps arent dropping and its saying no to "o"...... Oh well.

I ll catch up as normal over the next few days.

Ohhh by the way, I picked up my babies from the crematorium and they stayed at home while I was away with their older brothers....18 & 16. I actually did a lot better than I thought I would.

Hi - I'm sorry but I feel like no one understands me better than you ladies.

Firstly - af arrived this morn after my boobs and a few other signs had been telling me I was pg since 7dpo. Ok, I could deal with that - then MIL sent me a picture sms of DH's cousins baby who was born today. Ok I'm happy for them but it's a good idea to play down the whole baby thing with someone who is having fertility issues. I thought she would have known better and I know she wouldn't mean to hurt me but I'm now pi**ed off so poor DH is going to have to go through it all with me when he gets home. A friend from school recently had a bub and her Mum was so tactful when she spoke to my Mum, it really makes a difference.

Then to top it off gardening has been my therapy through the whole ttc/m'c thing and someone has stolen 3 pots out of my front garden this afternoon. I have little pots scattered through my garden and they took the pink frangipani and two azaleas! Bas**ards! I can't believe it. There was a delivery slip under the door from a courier - I know you can point the finger without proof but those pots have been there for a good 12 months so is it just a coincidence that my pots disappear the one day that they call and no one is home!:angry:

I am trying to be calm as I know it will catch up with them (karma is a beautiful thing) but GGGGRRR!!!!

On a lighter note I have decided that we only have one more cycle before I start clomid so I think a nice OS holiday will be a good idea. We both have time off in 3 weeks and were just going to drive up to QLD but bugger it - we'll splurge and go to Singapore or something. Orchids are my absolute fav so I've always wanted to go to Singapore - plus we might get a flight in the big huge new Singapore Airlines A380.

I'm so sorry but as I said I really feel like majority of the few people in this world who understand what I am going through are in here. Thank you XX

P.S The Oyster Bay Sav Blanc I'm drinking at the moment does make me feel a little better too, he he he.

hi all

just wanted to say hello and wish everyone TTC good luck and lots of :bluedust:

i am fairly new to all this but learning quickly...i miscarried my first pregnancy early Jan and after reading all of your posts and insights i have really stepped up the efforts in ttc again- starting temping and charting and i am finding it all really helpful...if anything it just helps to keep me focused on the few things about ttc that are in my control...if that makes sense. i think there is still a big hole in me that i am trying to fill but reading all of your posts helps me feel like i'm not the only one who feels that way

anyway fingers crossed we all have some good news soon.

welcome pbstar, sorry you had to join us, and sorry for your loss.
I am glad we could be of some assistance.

Hi pbstar - welcome and hope you feel as comfortable in here as I do!!
AJC - sweety, what a day! Commiserations on the crap. Be kind to your hubby ;) And.... I am envious of your holiday and equally envious of your Oyster Bay Sav Blanc - a very nice drop!! Enjoy!!

Hi everyone,
Just a few quick messages, i dont think I can remember everything I wanted to say to you all.

TM. So sorry for the loss of your FIL. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.

Hoping soon. :clap::dance::clap: Oh my Goodness, I love the way you just casually announced your BFP at the end of a calm and collected sentence. CONGRATS girl! I so knew you were going to have a BFP. That's, what, the 2nd BFP in 2 weeks on this forum???? I'd love to use loads of exciting emoticons, but the pop up blocker is stopping me.

AJC... Sory about AF and so, so sorry that the theives have taken your lovely plants. I know that I would be really cross if someone took something that I had planted with care and attention. I know what you mean about Karma, though, I like to imagine what nasty events will befall these villans.... (evil laugh, he, he)

pbStar- welcome to the forum and sorry for your loss. I hope that your journey here is a short one

Betty. I am really pleased that you have found a good doc to take care of you.

Hi to Barbara, Nickster, AngelB, Laura, Brecca, Starrysky and Magda and sorry anyone I missed.

I had a great valentines day. Ate lots of lovely (and expensive) seafood, drank way too much wine and then followed it all with a chocolate binge! It was a wonder that I had any energy left to BD after that feast, but DH and I struggled through!;)

I am having trouble with the old CM examination. To tell the truth, I have never really looked at it before. Right after AF, it was a bit watery (which is supposed to be fertile, isn't it? ) Then it seemed to go away completely, and more recently it has been 'normal', or, erm.. a bit like just white tacky stuff. Defo not EWCM. In fact, I dont think that I have ever noticed anything like egg white coming from down there. Maybe I'll have to look out for the watery stuff again. Has anyone got any advice on this please??

hi canary

i was just reading about the CM here
Fertility Friend Handbook - Fertility Charting For Pregnancy Achievement

Mine is watery right before the EWCM so you might want to check out the watery stuff again, maybe you missed it or it looks similar to the watery stuff

there is a section on that page further down about what to do if you have no EWCM- may be you need to change the way you are checking for CM? do you take temps as well?

Hi

Tempus I will be thinking of you and your family on saturday.

Thanks for all your kind words. Now I am just really nervous. I haven't told my husband incase something happens again. Last month with the miscarriage my temps didn't really increase much and this time they have gone really high and stayed high so I am hoping that is a good sign. I also had a lot of cramping last time too. This time I am having a bit of pain but I don't know how I would really explain it. It isn't cramping but it isn't normal either. Has anyone had anything like this.

I hope everyone gets bfp's soon.

Tempus: My thoughts are with you & your family today.

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Canary - I have no idea with the CM either. The only time I think I have had EWCM is usually after bd and is probably, well you know what. Sorry TMI. I started checking my cervix position this month but I don't think I'll do it again. Didn't really help and no matter how clean your hands are I don't think it's the best thing to do along the hygeine lines.

Hoping soon - my last pg I had a pulling stretching type feeling which sort of but not really (if that makes sense) felt like af feeling too. I asked doc about it and she said it is normal and usually goes away around 6 weeks. I also found a little paragraph in the 'what to expect' book which says the same thing - and that some people are more in tune with their bodies hence they feel any little twinge more.

I realised this morn that they had taken a 4th pot - this nice one I had at the front door full of water with frangipanis floating on top. I actually ended up calling police assistance line and reporting it - I know it's no big deal like having a car stolen or a break in but at least if anything else goes missing then I've reported it.

pbstar - welcome. Look forward to getting to know you but hope you're not here long;)

I'm a newbie in this thread, just thought I would pop in and say g'day and see what everyone is up to.

We suffered our 1st m/c 2 weeks ago, and are having a hard time :( However, as this bub was so wanted and so needed, we have decided that we would ttc straight away and see what happens. I personally think that having something positive to think about will also help me start healing.

So, a question: m/c 2.2008, d&c 3.2.08, no AF since. OB did say anything up to 4 weeks for AF to arrive, but the waiting is really taking it's toll. So, we bit the bullet on Wednesday 13.2 and did the BD. I guess we just wait now?

RIght now I feel ill about the fact that we did BD, because we are still grieving, but we were away for a few days, we'd had a couple of drinks and things were just DIFFERENT iykwim.

hi brockstar

i think you just have to do what feels right for you...our doctor told us to wait until AF before we started TTC again but we didn't want to, we started about a week and a half after the D+C

i got AF last sunday but i am glad i didn't wait to ttc until then- i think it helped me having something positive to focus on and it helped us stay connected to each other...

good luck and i hope you don't have to wait too long for some good news.

Hey Girls,

Just dropping in to let you know that there is hope for all of you out there!

I have had 2 m/c, My most recent one was in Nov 07..

I fell pregnant 9 days after it and now i am 3 days away from 12 weeks...

Good luck and Baby Dust for everyone TTC after M/c or loss

I know what it feels like.. Brings tears to my eyes..

Luv B
xox

Banx..... I am so glad to hear from you and congratulate you on getting to the 12 week mark.

Brockstar...... Your greiving girl..... Everything is going to be or feel different. It feels different in the morning when you wake up, it feels different in the middle of the day when you stare blankly out to nothing.... mentally miles away....... EVERYTHING is different..... All I can say Brockstar is TIME......One day at a time, dont push yourself, dont try and do it at someone elses pace, you take your time and do it your way. I lost my angels New Years Eve and New Years Day. I was an absolute mess and now..... the fog has lifted, each day is brighter than the previous one. ONE DAY AT A TIME.

Hoping....... fingers are crossed for you.

As for CM..... NO CLUE.....my little programe I use insists I am now at my most fertile stage.... My CM says I m not, my temp hasnt dropped and the last pee stick said that I wasnt "o"........ NO CLUE IN THE WORLD..... so to play safe..... its been BD BD BD and tonight it will be BD..... keeps a smile on hubby s face :dance:

hello to all the newbies, i am now 11dpo

This time tomorrow I am going to know one way or the other. :pray: I have brought another HPT and am testing tomorrow morning with FMU. AF is due Monday afternoon (I am very regular even down to approx time, in THAT way I suppose I am lucky) and I want to be prepared if AF is indeed on the way. However all those signs, never happened before. I just keep mentally chanting "Don't get your hopes up yet, don't get your hopes up yet!" :pray:

fingers crossed for berecca. i am trying to wait till tuesday to test

Thanks Angel Babies!

Good to hear from u too!

I have my fingers crossed for all of you..

Praying that one day soon you will all get your little miracle!

xox love B

helllooo!
Thanks Pbstar. I have read the ff thing and am a little less confused about the CM now. I dont think that I'll bother to check internally- I'm way too squeamish. Totally agree about the hygeine thing (was that from AJC, sorry, cant remember) I have been charting my temps, but had a fever for a couple of days, so those didnt count. My chart looks funny (I think), as my temp fluctuates a fair bit. I am still waiting for O, but if my cycle is 32 days (I think 32 is normal for me), then I should O on 21st.

I have read conflicting advice on the ff website. One bit that I read said that you shoud BD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE in your fertile window, unless you have male fertility issues. That should please DH! ;) Another part of the website said every other day. I think I am just going to choose which advice to follow, depending on my mood!:lol:

Hoping soon, IKWYM about not telling DH and about being scarred. I did not tell DH during my last pg until I absolutely had to (because I was off for a scan to make sure it wasnt ectopic) I dont think that your hormones will be helping at the moment, as your emotions will be all over the place. Take care of yourself and take some time out to relax. Some advice that I found particularly helpful was that you need to remember that you are doing everything you can to make sure your baby has the best start and that your pregnancy is healthy. That helped me to relax. If you can't tell DH about your anxieties yet, remember that we are all here to listen. Finally, have some :stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl::bluedust: I hope that helps!

Brockstar, welcome to BB and sorry for your miscarriage. IKWYM about wanting to try again ASAP. Dont feel guilty about doing BD, I am sure that your angel bub would understand that you are not trying to replace him/her. The BD is not only for making babies! I found that it helped take my mind off things and bring DH and I closer after the m/c.

Berecca, :crossfingers::goodluck::SAAF:

Hope you are all having a great weekend so far. I am off to clean the house.
Toodle-oo.

I'm sooo tired and yet too nervous to go to sleep. When I wake up tomorrow that will be it one way or the other and not sure I am ready for a BFN after all!

Thanx for all the good luck and :bluedust: to you all!

:hello: to pbstar and brockstar- so sorry to hear your sad news. Welcome to this amazing place where you find unbelievable TLC and support. I sincerely hope your stay here is short, but sweet xx

Hopingsoon and Banx, hope you can both soon relax and enjoy your pg's. Take care of yourselves, as well as those precious bubs :stickyvibesgirl:

Yo AJC!! Shame you didn't put a bloody great rock on the bottom that would 'boobytrap' when the pots were moved and fall out on their toes!! Grrrr.... I feel mad for you (I hate injustices of all kinds). Perhaps you need to put your address on the pots (at the back)- something like 'stolen fom .....'!! :clap: My hanging baskets were nicked 2 summers ago, so I threaded wire through them and actually connected them to the brackets. They ain't goin' nowhere now!!

TM Hope you feel okay after such a sad day. Hoping you soon have something to really smile about xx

BettyB- :bluedust: for you for tuesday x and Berecca too, got fingers crossed x

Hi Canary and Angel, and everyone else :grouphug:

Well, I've had a strange half-term week off school- done absolutely NO lesson plans or marking :dance: been decorating and buying new carpets instead!! I'm really happy with the 2 rooms and it's helped take my mind off af (which STILL has not arrived!!?), Pretty sure am not pg as no sore bbs and test on 13th was negative.
Have seriously gone off bd'ing- don't know why, just feel very despondent, and poor DH has dipped out this week - even Valentine's Day :-( Have to give myself a stern talking to (sort me out Angel!) as I won't get pg this way will I?
Anyway, back to school on Monday (oh yay) so life will become really hectic again (back to normal then!!) Maybe I'll be able to get jiggy again then.

Love n hugs all xxxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Everyone and welcome Brookster and pbstar. I am so sorry for the loss of your babies and I hope you find support here, I know it has helped me immensely.

I am still charting and FF put my O 5 days ago, but it has the dashed lines so is not sure. Great! I actually think I oed a couple of days later. My temps still look on the low side, I think I will talk to my naturopath about it when I see her in a week and a half. Sometimes I think it would be easier not to temp as ignorance is bliss, but then I guess if I am not Oing then I need to find out sooner rather than later. My CM suggests I O but my temps are not so certain. But regardless we TTCed like mad so should be in with a fighting chance. I am getting myself ready for AF as I don't want to plummet from disappointment. It was so easy with Nathaniel, one month I realised AF was later and did a test and that was it. I hope this time will be just as easy. The waiting part is not fun.

Bettyboop, I have my fingers crossed for you for Tuesday. You have had such a long wait so it is about time!

I hope everyone is having a nice weekend. We have been so lazy, I even fell asleep yesterday and slept for over 3 hours! I couldn't believe it when I woke up, it felt like a waste of a day.

hi all and thanks for your welcomes :D

well i am on CD8 now and counting...canary i too have found the advice about how often to BD a bit confusing but at the moment i am sticking to the every second day thing, maybe when i get closer to when i think i will o i might step it up though...it's all good fun though isn't it? ;)

i was thinking about starting using OPK's- do you guys use them or do you think it's unnecessary? how many tester strips do you usually get in a packet?

well i am going to stop procrastinating and go and tackle my huge basket of ironing...yay!!!

have a great day all and hopefully we hear some good news from berecca!

Hi ladies - sorry have not posted in a bit (prob only a couple of days but feels like much longer!) but have been lurking.... :)
Welcome to the new ladies - ul find lots and lots of support in this lovely fold!! So sorry for your losses :(
Hi to everyone else - I'm sorry for not doing personals but wishing everyone the most exquisite of :bluedust: so that we cam romp in the BFPs :)
Berecca - esp wishing you some special double lines today....we're here for ya!!

Ohhh I wish I could sort you out this time.... I m smacking my own hand at the moment.... You will have to wait in line.....LOL.

I turn around to DH last night...... tell him that the programe I enter my temps in says tonights the night..... (we were laying in bed without a stitch on at the time.... deliberatly early)....HE DOES NOTHING.......NOTHING...NOTHING...

I layed there in bed for about 5 minutes then rolled over. I layed there thinking.... well actions speak louder than words buddy..... I m here taking whatever herbs or drinks I have to....Popping pills daily, I ve just gone through an IVF cycle (which is the ultimate invasion) and you... you.... you who is the one with the fertility issue, wont take your herbs (apparently they dont taste nice....ohhh no chit) you still have the occasional smoke.... AThere is NOTHING wrong with my fertility and I m the one doing EVERYTHING and your just laying there doing NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...... Ohhh did I not make my point strong enough...... NOTHING... NOTHING.....NOTHING.....

So here I am "o" and I m not even talking to the *********** (insert swear word there)

So before I can convince you to BD Nickster.... I have to convince myself!

Ohhhhhh PS... Yes I do chuck tanties...... this is one of them :shhh:

:bfn::crying: I was soooo sure this was THE month, my body has never reacted so weirdly before! DH tried to help by saying maybe because it is the day before AF is due the HcG wasn't strong enough but there is no hope here anymore. I am so angry at myself for getting my hopes up.

Pbstar - I bought the first response kit that came with 7 test strips AND a pregnancy test. I haven't charted my temps before so I thought this was a good way. It also informs you 24 to 36 hours before you O so you can make sure you are timing BDing properly.

Angel babies - I feel your frustration and pain. Have you said any of this to your DH?? I know I would. I am assuming he wants this too so maybe you need to yell at him a bit and tell him nothing will happen if he doesn't do what he is supposed to! My DH is a pain in the ass too. I bought the OPK because he wouldn't BD with me as much as I wanted to, or at the right time. This way I got him involved, although still not perfect. Yet he is the one pushing for this as much as me. What is it about males??? :wall::wall:

As for me, preparing for AF tomorrow, going to buy some panty liners as I will be at work tomorrow and know it will come when I am teaching a class! Also going to buy a BBT thermometer and give that a go as well.

My smug best friend, who told me she was pg a week after my m/c (and yes she knew) told me that I had to relax and not worry if it doesn't happen cause that's what she did and it worked. YEAH RIGHT. Does she forget the things she said to me, how desperate she was, how she tested with HPT 4 days before her AF was due (even though now she says it was the day before). Does she have selective amnesia???? Does she think now she is pg she is the expert?? Or is it that she doesn't want me to be pg as well??? The other day she started spending more time with a friend she hasn't seen in ages and said directly to me "Us pg women need to stick together". Insensitive b**ch! Grrrr

Thanx for listening to my rant. Still not 100% but getting there!

Berecca I am so sorry that your friend has been so insensitive. I would be taking the 'best' part of the friend title! I can't even imagine how much it must hurt you to hear her say those things. She obviously have no clue how traumatic your loss has been. Big hugs to you.

Will post more later.

Bereca - Hugs to you. Af arrived for me too yesterday and I felt exactly the same way as you, positive that this was our month. But BFN and af arriving dashed that little daydream. Am sorry to hear your best friend has been insensitive, what a cow saying that pg people need to stick together, that's really supportive of her - NOT!!!!

Angel Babies - sorry to hear that DH isn't making an effort. My DH has been ok but I think he could make more of an effort. Doc asked him to go for a Semen analysis over a month ago and he still hasn't gone (meanwhile over the last 5 months I've undergone countless tests and procedures and have actually looked forward to getting them done). :wall: Needless to say the multivitamin I bought over 8 weeks ago (with 60 in the jar) is still over half full and yet he says that he's only missed a few days. I'm no mathematic expert but we should be due to buy a new jar by now if he was taking them properly. I feel your frustration, as for the BD - I no longer tell DH when it the ideal BD time cause it's too much pressure it is almost like it's our first time again (like first, first time when it's trial and error). I would def. try to talk to him though?

Nickster - lol the the 'stolen from....' idea. Love it! I want to get more to put out there because I refuse to live in a world where I have to adjust my way of life because of low life scum bags! Will def. booby trap them though. We have a big red back spider problem here so I hope there were some in those pots (highly likely). Not saying I hope they were bitten, nature will just take its course that's all, he he he.

Welcome Brockstar - hope your stay in here is full of support and of course very short;)

Banx - thanks for dropping by. Success stories always give me a little boost so please please please anytime you think of us drop on and say hi would love to hear how you & bub are going. Best wishes for a happy and healthy remaining 6mths. XX

Bettyboop - Good luck for Tue.

Sorry if I missed anyone.