thanks for this now i just have to get ink and paper for my printer lol. i so want to get back into this its just working it out on my budget what i need are meal idea's ones that use every day stuff that that is cheap to get hold of if you get what i mean like not a huge amount of spices that i will only use for that one meal and probably havnt heard of lol i realise my initual shop to get everything on the list would be high then i want the top ups etc and usual weekly top up to be not so high im on a tight tight budget at the mo which is soon to ease in the next 8-10 weeks so am looking at having it organised by then and ready to get up and going if not sooner. thanks