We have tried heaps of different ones as DH used to work at Mini Max and we always come back to Scanpan for everything, saucepans and frying pans.. $$ but totally worth it and if they do start to peel (we have all teflon/black coated ones) they are covered under warranty and will get replaced for nothing... My saucepan was over 6 years old and started getting a bit bubbly and they replaced it for free just recently.